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In all honesty you've got to provide a general brief.
Are you looking for a company to:
Design the logo/ branding
Design the site itself
Are you looking for a bespoke system or something open source
What kind of budget/ timescale are we looking at
Do you want the company to provide hosting/ domain registration ...
etc ...
Are you looking for a company to:
Design the logo/ branding
Design the site itself
Are you looking for a bespoke system or something open source
What kind of budget/ timescale are we looking at
Do you want the company to provide hosting/ domain registration ...
etc ...
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Yes, information is very sketchy because you want to open a paint company, a teen urban clothing shop and a kids play centre but you have no products as yet, or know where to source them from.
An urban clothes shop aimed at youths will have a different design than a paint company aimed at someone doing DIY for instance.
Taking it that you are more than likely going for the clothes shop being on-line, then you need to look at what PointandStare has said above.
An urban clothes shop aimed at youths will have a different design than a paint company aimed at someone doing DIY for instance.
Taking it that you are more than likely going for the clothes shop being on-line, then you need to look at what PointandStare has said above.
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Sorry my post never had much information, it was late.
Anyway my questions are How much would it cost to get a website made, with a shopping cart that i could easily update myself. Im guessing it would be easier if the person who made the site sorted the hosting, domain ect?
I have a logo but it is on paper, im sure it would be easy for the web designer to transfer this into a graphic tho.
My Budget is about £500 for a good looking easy to use ecommerce site.
How do you usaully pay for these site do you pay the money and tahts it or do you have to pay monthly after to get the site updated.
Anyway my questions are How much would it cost to get a website made, with a shopping cart that i could easily update myself. Im guessing it would be easier if the person who made the site sorted the hosting, domain ect?
I have a logo but it is on paper, im sure it would be easy for the web designer to transfer this into a graphic tho.
My Budget is about £500 for a good looking easy to use ecommerce site.
How do you usaully pay for these site do you pay the money and tahts it or do you have to pay monthly after to get the site updated.
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Well that's a bit more info but still nowhere near a proper brief.
Budget is the biggest killer here. You'll get something 'ok-ish' for £500 but it aint going to be anything like ASOS, for example.
Thing is, if you've only got £500 to spend on the site, what is your PR/ marketing budget and plans?
It might seem like I'm going on about the money but to me it indicates how committed the client is to the project (also how much time we can allocate to the project).
As I said, within that budget you'll get something online but don't expect anything as polished as this.
Budget is the biggest killer here. You'll get something 'ok-ish' for £500 but it aint going to be anything like ASOS, for example.
Thing is, if you've only got £500 to spend on the site, what is your PR/ marketing budget and plans?
It might seem like I'm going on about the money but to me it indicates how committed the client is to the project (also how much time we can allocate to the project).
As I said, within that budget you'll get something online but don't expect anything as polished as this.
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With the web as it is today £500 is plenty to get yourself a nice looking site with an online webshop that you can have administrator capabilities to make alterations. It won't be very customised, or bells and whistles, but will do the job.
Although if the market you are trying to enter is already saturated and will offer lower prices than you this route is filled with many challanging hurdles. If not and you have found a niche it's well worth a punt.
True you are probably not going to be able to hire a UK web designer for this kind of budget (current climate you may find a startup looking to increase their portfolio - perhaps try and find one here) but if you are determined and not afraid to get your hands dirty you could learn how to use a low cost or free package like oscommerce.
If not you could try somewhere like Elance.com , you may be able to get a project accepted for your budget and brief. Start simple and build - don't forget your SEO is not going to be fantastic with your budget so start learning this yourself and see what difference you can make without having to hire someone.
Lastly keep a little budget behind for marketing and advertising - even if it is £50 per month for Google Adwords. Make sure you research your keywords carefully and chose wisely (not sure what I mean I am sure there are lots of helpful people on here willing to give you some advice - just make a post).
Best of luck
Dean
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If you have no stock a good place to start would be get a dropshipper website which costs about £5 per month for the hosting and then they hold the stock for you. You can also add your own products to this website, once you get your stock.
One that I use if dpbuk.co.uk, which have about for about 3 years and they have 14 different types of business to choose from and your site could be running in the next 30 minutes. As i said before you can easily add your own products to this site.
One that I use if dpbuk.co.uk, which have about for about 3 years and they have 14 different types of business to choose from and your site could be running in the next 30 minutes. As i said before you can easily add your own products to this site.
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And even if you get the site for £500, have you budgeted for hosting and marketing. It won't be any good relying on the search engines because it's going to take months before Google indexes the site and even longer to build up enough trust to rank well. Which means you are going to be relying on paid advertising for at least a year and for highly competitve products that could be costing you a lot of money.
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Hi WhoAreYou,
How many different products are you looking to sell on your website? Are you are looking to sell hundreds or thousands of different products or are you talking about selling tens of products?
The product numbers may be a factor in anyone quoting a cost to you because if you want the web site created, populated with all the intial products you are selling in place and the web designer\developer to scan in product images from a catalog for instance, then this will take a fair amount of time to do, however if you don't have lots of products to sell and you have images of the products already etc. the site will be easier to populate taking less time, so less cost to create.
I think your £500 budget is not an unreasonable amount to spend for a site to be built for you, but it will depend on the specifics of what you are looking to do. Please give us an idea of how many unique products you are selling and the type of features you want on your site etc. Just think, do you need the feature before you list it in what you want as every feature your want will increase anyones quote on such a job.
Regards,
ShopIntegrator
How many different products are you looking to sell on your website? Are you are looking to sell hundreds or thousands of different products or are you talking about selling tens of products?
The product numbers may be a factor in anyone quoting a cost to you because if you want the web site created, populated with all the intial products you are selling in place and the web designer\developer to scan in product images from a catalog for instance, then this will take a fair amount of time to do, however if you don't have lots of products to sell and you have images of the products already etc. the site will be easier to populate taking less time, so less cost to create.
I think your £500 budget is not an unreasonable amount to spend for a site to be built for you, but it will depend on the specifics of what you are looking to do. Please give us an idea of how many unique products you are selling and the type of features you want on your site etc. Just think, do you need the feature before you list it in what you want as every feature your want will increase anyones quote on such a job.
Regards,
ShopIntegrator
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Hi,
I run a competitively priced Web Design Business and would be interested to hear what requirements you have drop me an email to scott[at]s7media.co.uk and I would be happy to provide you with advice and examples of our work and pricing etc.
Hope to hear from you soon,
All the best,
Scott.
I run a competitively priced Web Design Business and would be interested to hear what requirements you have drop me an email to scott[at]s7media.co.uk and I would be happy to provide you with advice and examples of our work and pricing etc.
Hope to hear from you soon,
All the best,
Scott.
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*head meet desk*
I really think you need to take a serious look at your budget. You are never going to be able to create a decent looking e-commerce site for £500!
Anyone on here who tells you it's possible are kidding themselves and are quite possibly web developers that do not have the capability of creating a site that would warrant such a fee.
You will never be able to shift volume through a site that cost £500. Your site is your storefront. £500 is like a drop in the ocean when it comes to powerful e-commerce sites.
I really think you need to take a serious look at your budget. You are never going to be able to create a decent looking e-commerce site for £500!
Anyone on here who tells you it's possible are kidding themselves and are quite possibly web developers that do not have the capability of creating a site that would warrant such a fee.
You will never be able to shift volume through a site that cost £500. Your site is your storefront. £500 is like a drop in the ocean when it comes to powerful e-commerce sites.
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For the website have a look at www.tigercommerce.co.uk. Of course yes there are many different ecommerce providors and to see how Tiger Commerce compares to these have a look at this link on their site - http://www.tigercommerce.co.uk/ecommerce-website-comparison.
As for products have you considered dropshipping? Please have a look at the following link - http://www.monstermarket.co.uk/
As for products have you considered dropshipping? Please have a look at the following link - http://www.monstermarket.co.uk/
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For an e-commerce website that works, you really want to be expanding your budget to at least the £1,000 mark - the best e-commerce websites cost as much as £20,000+, although £5,000 - £10,000 is more realistic for small and medium sized businesses for are serious. As Michelle says, anyone who thinks they can offer a good e-commerce website for £500 are not being realistic. It is better for you to spend more and make your money back than to spend less and not make your money. Things you need to consider in getting your e-commerce website set up is:
* Researching your target audience - different audience types will have different requirements. If your website doesn't have the features to make it easy to make a decision and follow through with a purchase, you will lose a lot of sales.
* How the design can be created to cross sell products so that you can maximise your sales potential.
* How you can integrate useful features that support cross selling and visitor confidence to make a sale - features like galleries, suggested products and previous buyer feedback.
* Special offer promotions marketing - both within the website and externally.
* Affiliate marketing capabilities so that you can get people to refer customers to you and reward them with a cut of the sales they make.
* E-mail marketing - so that you can remind people to visit your website for the latest deals.
* Well written content so that visitors can persuaded to buy.
* Website navigation design to ensure visitors can quickly find what they are looking for.
* Features to integrate external marketing capabilities such as special promotion codes distributed via sites like Twitter and Facebook as well as landing pages for pay per click advertising.
These are just to begin. I've not even mentioned the setup of the e-commerce shop or the website design, yet all of the above are features and considerations that provide the ability apply marketing tactics that get customers to your website. The above alone will take you over your budget.
Granted, you can get an e-commerce website for £500, but what you will get is probably a template design that is tweaked slightly and a shopping cart integration. You would have to add your products yourself and write all the content. If you don't have professional quality content or photography, your website will do you more damage than good because people will lose the confidence to buy from you - if you didn't have a website, people would still have an open mind if they were buying from somewhere like Ebay.
* Researching your target audience - different audience types will have different requirements. If your website doesn't have the features to make it easy to make a decision and follow through with a purchase, you will lose a lot of sales.
* How the design can be created to cross sell products so that you can maximise your sales potential.
* How you can integrate useful features that support cross selling and visitor confidence to make a sale - features like galleries, suggested products and previous buyer feedback.
* Special offer promotions marketing - both within the website and externally.
* Affiliate marketing capabilities so that you can get people to refer customers to you and reward them with a cut of the sales they make.
* E-mail marketing - so that you can remind people to visit your website for the latest deals.
* Well written content so that visitors can persuaded to buy.
* Website navigation design to ensure visitors can quickly find what they are looking for.
* Features to integrate external marketing capabilities such as special promotion codes distributed via sites like Twitter and Facebook as well as landing pages for pay per click advertising.
These are just to begin. I've not even mentioned the setup of the e-commerce shop or the website design, yet all of the above are features and considerations that provide the ability apply marketing tactics that get customers to your website. The above alone will take you over your budget.
Granted, you can get an e-commerce website for £500, but what you will get is probably a template design that is tweaked slightly and a shopping cart integration. You would have to add your products yourself and write all the content. If you don't have professional quality content or photography, your website will do you more damage than good because people will lose the confidence to buy from you - if you didn't have a website, people would still have an open mind if they were buying from somewhere like Ebay.
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How much is a car
You can pay £100 for a old banger and have a runa round for a few months
You can pay £5000 and have a reliable affordable Mondeo for the next 5 years
You can shell out £20000 on a new car, and have the benefits and losses associated
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Im going to sound harsh now
say you sell shoes
on the high street, you woul have to pay 15K + in rent, and 10K in rates, and 20K+ for staff, and 2K for alarms, and 3K for shutters, and 2K for insurance, and 1K for the PDQ machine etc. etc.
Your cost to market (assuming 5K for a webstore) is miniscule in comparison
If the competition on the high street can afford many times more, and sell shoes for the same margin as you, then how come you feel you can enter the market with £500
You can pay £100 for a old banger and have a runa round for a few months
You can pay £5000 and have a reliable affordable Mondeo for the next 5 years
You can shell out £20000 on a new car, and have the benefits and losses associated
___
Im going to sound harsh now
say you sell shoes
on the high street, you woul have to pay 15K + in rent, and 10K in rates, and 20K+ for staff, and 2K for alarms, and 3K for shutters, and 2K for insurance, and 1K for the PDQ machine etc. etc.
Your cost to market (assuming 5K for a webstore) is miniscule in comparison
If the competition on the high street can afford many times more, and sell shoes for the same margin as you, then how come you feel you can enter the market with £500
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Since you are asking someone else to create a site for you £500 is unrealistic, any designer is going to need to add in the following costs....
hosting
domain name
payment provider fees
software
But if you DIY with a hosted shop and use paypal your start up costs will be the first months hosting fee
Actinic express for example costs £18 per month, BigCommerce starts at $25 per month.
hosting
domain name
payment provider fees
software
But if you DIY with a hosted shop and use paypal your start up costs will be the first months hosting fee
Actinic express for example costs £18 per month, BigCommerce starts at $25 per month.
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hi, when you do set up your shop, you will be surprised how few visitors you get as noone knows you exist and you wont show up in the search results on your desired keywords, so therefore no traffic.
This can be a very expensive project to get you to rank, especially if it's high competive keywords you want to be found for.
-webshop £500-£1000 to get you started
-SEO campaign around £1500 if you do mean business + monthly SEO expenses
-products in stock
-logos
-businesscards
-packaging - boxes,tape,labels
-marketing- adwords,banners?
-internet connection
-office table and desk
-packaging table
-make newsletters
-storage room
before you are finish with setting up the webshop for £500 you have spend more like £5000 if you also want to sell something
my advice will be to do it properly or dont do it at all, all the best Thomas
This can be a very expensive project to get you to rank, especially if it's high competive keywords you want to be found for.
-webshop £500-£1000 to get you started
-SEO campaign around £1500 if you do mean business + monthly SEO expenses
-products in stock
-logos
-businesscards
-packaging - boxes,tape,labels
-marketing- adwords,banners?
-internet connection
-office table and desk
-packaging table
-make newsletters
-storage room
before you are finish with setting up the webshop for £500 you have spend more like £5000 if you also want to sell something
my advice will be to do it properly or dont do it at all, all the best Thomas
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If you want an e-commerce website on a budget, you might want to check these websites:
http://www.php.net
http://www.w3schools.com
http://www.entheosweb.com/website_design/default.asp
Hope this helps.
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We've got a store owner using our basic Starter Shop layout who does a 6-figure annual turnover so I wouldn't be completely dismissive of an affordable solution, it very much depends on product, marketing and business sense.
The OP needs to be realistic with what is possible with a £500 budget. You can certainly get a basic functional on-line presence, but £400 or whatever is left will not get you a great deal in terms of paid for visitors.
If you also have to buy your stock up front prior to getting any orders then you will be relying entirely on free marketing techniques such as word of mouth to friends and family, perhaps local business networking events although they cost, social networking websites and perhaps links from your supplier websites as a 'recommended retail outlet' of their products.
Don't let ridiculous comments like
put you off, but you must be realistic about your expectations and the extended length of time it will take for a new shop with virtually no marketing budget to gain any sort of momentum.
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It's all very possible to to launch a successful e-commerce business (or shop) on a budget, but you have to know what you are doing - otherwise everyone would have an online shop that earns them a six figure number per year .
You can get away with a budget of £500 if you know how to promote the website, have a strategy for the website that works, you know how to write the content and you can provide your own photography. The pattern here is that you would essentially have good marketing and strategy skills and would be substituting the cost with your time - which at the end of the day would equate to the same or more as like the time of a specialist, your time is also worth money.
On the other hand, if you don't have the required skills and experience, it is better to hire a specialist who knows their stuff. Don't forget, you're not just hiring someone to design the website for you - you should be hiring someone who can provide you with advice on how your can use the website as part of your business strategy - combining their experience and knowledge of Internet technologies and online marketing with your knowledge of your business and your audience.
.You can get away with a budget of £500 if you know how to promote the website, have a strategy for the website that works, you know how to write the content and you can provide your own photography. The pattern here is that you would essentially have good marketing and strategy skills and would be substituting the cost with your time - which at the end of the day would equate to the same or more as like the time of a specialist, your time is also worth money.
On the other hand, if you don't have the required skills and experience, it is better to hire a specialist who knows their stuff. Don't forget, you're not just hiring someone to design the website for you - you should be hiring someone who can provide you with advice on how your can use the website as part of your business strategy - combining their experience and knowledge of Internet technologies and online marketing with your knowledge of your business and your audience.
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Well why are you on here asking for advice then if you know so much?
This forum seems to be full of people who know very little asking for advice - getting it form those of us who know better and then them arguing the point!
WHY BOTHER POSTING IN THE FIRST PLACE if you have no interest in listening to taking on board the advice these people have taken the time out of their busy days to provide you with?!!!!!!
I look forward to seeing your bargain basement template site once it is up and running - thats if you have enough money in your budget left over for hosting.
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