Storage Yard

Discussion in 'General Business Forum' started by busowner987, Oct 6, 2019.

  1. busowner987

    busowner987 UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Looking into setting up a storage yard.. the type you rent a 20ft container.

    I have used them many a time over the years and normally are over subscribed.

    My main concern is land costs. I imagine this to be a deal breaker in most cases and know absolutely nothing about land..
     
    Posted: Oct 6, 2019 By: busowner987 Member since: Aug 27, 2019
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  2. Karimbo

    Karimbo UKBF Ace Free Member

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    Land costs arent a lot, if you know the right places to look. Most storage container yards are built on land that has no commercial value, it would have had no purpose at all and there cheap to get a lease on.
     
    Posted: Oct 7, 2019 By: Karimbo Member since: Nov 5, 2011
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  3. Mark T Jones

    Mark T Jones UKBF Big Shot Full Member

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    as Karimbo says, land itself isn't particularly expensive or hard to find.

    Things you need to consider include access, planning, security etc.
     
    Posted: Oct 7, 2019 By: Mark T Jones Member since: Nov 4, 2015
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  4. bodgitt&scarperLTD

    bodgitt&scarperLTD UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Land costs aren't the dealbreaker- land costs with planning are. Same as most things in this overcrowded country.
     
    Posted: Oct 7, 2019 By: bodgitt&scarperLTD Member since: Nov 26, 2018
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  5. billmccallum1957

    billmccallum1957 UKBF Ace Full Member

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    Where?
     
    Posted: Oct 7, 2019 By: billmccallum1957 Member since: Feb 11, 2016
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  6. kulture

    kulture UKBF Legend Staff Member

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    Having looked at all your other posts and threads, I would suggest that your main concern is lack of professional advice.

    Land for storage should have the necessary planing permission. It should be secure with decent fencing (which likewise has planning permission). It should probably have a decent CCTV system, electrical power for lighting and the CCTV, decent contracts professionally drawn up. No doubt there are a number of other detailed requirements.

    I am not sure what your question is, but I would suggest that you are wasting your time here with such a general post.
     
    Posted: Oct 7, 2019 By: kulture Member since: Aug 11, 2007
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  7. Mr D

    Mr D UKBF Legend Free Member

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    As you have used them you will be familiar with common issues of gate access, lighting, security.
    The land is probably the easiest and cheapest part of the process in setting up.
     
    Posted: Oct 7, 2019 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  8. busowner987

    busowner987 UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Thanks for comments.

    I have seen it done badly and done well. The right model seems to be electronic 24 hour access gate with a good fence around the perimeter.

    Thanks kulture but I am not wasting my time as I was not aware that the fencing would require planning permission. But you seem sure that it does so I have learned something today at least ;)

    I know somebody that used to have multiples of these but his model was flawed. I don't think he could ever secure a lease with enough years on it as he was forever moving and I cant imagine moving containers is cheap. £200/£300 pop I would guess.

    Is there a go to site when looking at land?
     
    Posted: Oct 7, 2019 By: busowner987 Member since: Aug 27, 2019
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  9. kulture

    kulture UKBF Legend Staff Member

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  10. busowner987

    busowner987 UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Thanks I appreciate the link. Added to my bookmarks.

    A very very useful site!
     
    Posted: Oct 7, 2019 By: busowner987 Member since: Aug 27, 2019
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  11. estwig

    estwig UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Posted: Oct 7, 2019 By: estwig Member since: Sep 29, 2006
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  12. Craig3141

    Craig3141 UKBF Contributor Full Member

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    Surely a storage cointaner yard is commerical value? Or am I missing the point?

    Really?
     
    Posted: Oct 8, 2019 By: Craig3141 Member since: Aug 9, 2019
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  13. busowner987

    busowner987 UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Anybody got a link please on sourcing the land?

    Right move cant be the best avenue can it?
     
    Posted: Oct 9, 2019 By: busowner987 Member since: Aug 27, 2019
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  14. estwig

    estwig UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Sourcing land is a dark art, there isn't a link.
     
    Posted: Oct 9, 2019 By: estwig Member since: Sep 29, 2006
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  15. Craig3141

    Craig3141 UKBF Contributor Full Member

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    Nope, right move is not the best avenue. You coud try landwatch,still not the best though.

    That's why tbe usual finder's fee is £1000 +2% of the property value.

    Some do it at 10%, with a lower deposit . That is usally for more valuable residental land.

    I'd imagine an even higher amount for raw land.

    Where are you looking to site the container(s)? How many cointainers?
     
    Posted: Oct 10, 2019 By: Craig3141 Member since: Aug 9, 2019
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  16. busowner987

    busowner987 UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Lets just say south east :eek:

    100 containers (mixture of sizes)
     
    Posted: Oct 10, 2019 By: busowner987 Member since: Aug 27, 2019
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  17. estwig

    estwig UKBF Legend Free Member

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    When I get home, I'll have a look down the back of the sofa for you.
     
    Posted: Oct 10, 2019 By: estwig Member since: Sep 29, 2006
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  18. estwig

    estwig UKBF Legend Free Member

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    People trying to make money out of storage containers, has the same reasoning as bus drivers. Driving a bus pays sh*t money, for sh*t hours and a lot of stress, there is no shortage of people lining up to do it.

    Buses are big, people notice them, they think about them, it seems like a good idea. Storage containers are the same.
     
    Posted: Oct 10, 2019 By: estwig Member since: Sep 29, 2006
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  19. JEREMY HAWKE

    JEREMY HAWKE UKBF Legend Full Member

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    Yes I have 3 but only for JHC to use ! but I would not want the hassle .

    It is not the buying of the containers that is the problem . It is the cost of getting them there . On a second hand box the transport could be more than the purchase price
     
    Posted: Oct 10, 2019 By: JEREMY HAWKE Member since: Mar 4, 2008
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  20. busowner987

    busowner987 UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Hmm it makes more sense than renting out housing stock.

    The upfront costs are high granted but if there for the long term there is money to be had.
     
    Posted: Oct 10, 2019 By: busowner987 Member since: Aug 27, 2019
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