Starting an airline, anyone want in?
- Thread starter samuel5
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You start with a big fortune
And end with a small one
Ignoring the financial and operational enormity; you really need to be asking why Virgin & BA are pulling out of Gatwick and radically downizing (in fairness, part of the reason for BA is that they are still stuggling with over-unionised public sector contracts)
The future of air travel is - excuse the pun - very much up in the air.
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Virgin aren't giving up their slots.
I'm happy to join you as an administrator if you put up the money to buy the planes
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The Byre
You start outside the UK and find a hub that is efficient and can deal with expansion. Schiphol would be my choice. Six runways, really efficient operation and reasonable landing fees (for environmentally friendly craft) and a kewl city.
The penalties for running older aircraft will only escalate - so all those old, dirty, inefficient and noisy things that are about to come onto the market will end up being scrapped.
Commercial aviation will only return to profitability when it becomes comfortable, quiet and convenient. Until then, keep your powder dry and go and find something else to lose money with!
What you will see is a rise in general aviation. Go to the GA building at pretty much any airport and you can walk straight onto your plane. No body-searches by members of the EDL, no sitting on your luggage because some idiots in France want more money - even when you are not even going to France, no being herded like cattle and no sitting in cramped cabins for hours on end - an experience for which a special forces training in 'intensive questioning' is the only real preparation.
There is of course still a slightly different price structure!
The penalties for running older aircraft will only escalate - so all those old, dirty, inefficient and noisy things that are about to come onto the market will end up being scrapped.
Commercial aviation will only return to profitability when it becomes comfortable, quiet and convenient. Until then, keep your powder dry and go and find something else to lose money with!
What you will see is a rise in general aviation. Go to the GA building at pretty much any airport and you can walk straight onto your plane. No body-searches by members of the EDL, no sitting on your luggage because some idiots in France want more money - even when you are not even going to France, no being herded like cattle and no sitting in cramped cabins for hours on end - an experience for which a special forces training in 'intensive questioning' is the only real preparation.
There is of course still a slightly different price structure!
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Airlines rely on financing, so unless you can put up the whole amount necessary, I just cannot see where you will get the money from.
Warren Buffett is unlikely to be willing to help as he has just sold, at a significant loss if the press is to be believed, all his airlines shares.
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Darren_Ssc
There is a guy in america who has his own private air force and it's quite a money maker, by all accounts.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...vate-air-force-after-buying-46-f-a-18-hornets
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...vate-air-force-after-buying-46-f-a-18-hornets
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Deleted member 59730
Yes, they rely on financing so it costs them nothing to start. You don't need money for the planes you need it for the advertising. 6 months advertising for flights starting in 6 months time gives you 6 months of revenue. There will be loads of planes for hire and crews too from the day you launch.
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You're probably joking but if you, or anyone else, is a serious contender, connect with me in LinkedIn, let me check you out and I'll introduce you to a chap called Oleg who is working on this and who's picked up some B787s. Funnily enough, his choice is the Schiphol that @The Byre mentions.
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You should know the spelling of Camborne!This is a right cowboy idea It reminds of when Denzil Penberthy went into competion with Red Adair with a Land Rover and some lads on the dole in Cambourne
I once came across someone called Denzil Penberthy for real. It was in Zimbabwe and he had never heard of the fictitious one.
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I don't believe that you met him
He is real and he has worked all over the world places like Truro , Plymouth Barnstaple and even Shepton Mallet
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At that point, he had already been successful with Virgin Records and owned Necker Island. That was also over 35 years ago.
I'm not saying the OP cannot pull it of or does not have the skills and experience. I'm just doubting the timing given that airline companies are bleeding money and there's very little demand at the moment.
Cargo is doing very well but passenger numbers are unlikely to recover in the short term.
So, starting now may mean very little competition but it will also require deep pockets to keep it going and I have a hard time believing somebody who approaches a public forum to find investors will have the required capital to take it off the ground successfully.
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We all know the hardest part of setting up a new business is finding a decent name.
Now with Gordon’s naming revelation we have done the hard part and it’s an easy run from here.
It’ll be a quiet day on UKBF when the inaugural flight takes off
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https://petapixel.com/2020/05/05/aerial-photos-of-grounded-jets-across-the-usa/
Plenty to choose from.
Plenty to choose from.
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Coaches used to be vehicles that transported people.
Now coaches are people who tell you how to run your business, how to organise your wardrobe, how to live your life, how to brush your teeth.
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