Outsourcing Web Design Services To India

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Hello,

I'm looking for a reputable company (not a freelancer) to outsource web design projects too based in India, on a long term basis.

Has anybody used a company that is good and completes all work on time, without any hassle?

I've searched on the internet but it's very overwhelming with the amount of businesses out there that offer services, I need to find one I can trust and delivers the work at a reasonable rate.

With Kind Regards
Steve
 
Finding consistently reliable international companies to outsource to is very difficult. From experience, the more different the culture of the country you outsource to is from your own, the harder it can be to get exactly what you want. It's often not simply a case of saying "this is what I want, here you go", and pocketing the profit. You do need to actively project manage the job at every stage. If you let the developers get on with it, you won't get what you want. You probably know this already, hence your post :)

If you outsource to South America or Eastern Europe, the communication can be less of an issue, but the higher prices reflect this.

You could consider employing a UK based project manager to oversee the work, to make sure you get what you want, and on time.
 
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Tau1024

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Why not consider Russian outsourcing company? Though rates might be higher than in Asian companies, overall cost of the project usually becomes lower. Know this from own experience, since I'm a CTO of such a Russian company with 10 successful years of outsourcing. Will be glad to be of help.
 
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vepro

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Hello,

I'm looking for a reputable company (not a freelancer) to outsource web design projects too based in India, on a long term basis.

Has anybody used a company that is good and completes all work on time, without any hassle?

I've searched on the internet but it's very overwhelming with the amount of businesses out there that offer services, I need to find one I can trust and delivers the work at a reasonable rate.

With Kind Regards
Steve


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scargill

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I would SERIOUSLY recommend against outsourcing overseas - and I'm speaking from experience. You may think this is a good way to save money - with costs being lower in the likes of India - but nothing in life comes free. In my experience - the simplest instructions can be mis-interpreted and what makes sound sense to you could end up giving you an expensive piece of software, utterly over-engineered which is useless to you.

Really, think about developing a relationship with a UK company, check them out personally and go with some small jobs to see how they perform.
 
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but nothing in life comes free. In my experience - the simplest instructions can be mis-interpreted and what makes sound sense to you could end up giving you an expensive piece of software, utterly over-engineered which is useless to you.

Really, think about developing a relationship with a UK company, check them out personally and go with some small jobs to see how they perform.

This is what I am lead to believe too. You specify ASP.NET in C# you get PHP.
 
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scargill

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This is what I am lead to believe too. You specify ASP.NET in C# you get PHP.

Hah, well, not quite... But by the time you have finished you may end up wishing you'd taken up plumbing... Let me save you the considerable heartache... If you want to learn just HOW different other peoples thinking processes can be and how this affects what you get for your money... Just keep going as you plan :). We do have some excellent programmers here... Ive dealt with programmers here, the USA, India, Sri Lanka... Ok its only my experience... Give me the usa or uk anytime....
 
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Tau1024

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I would SERIOUSLY recommend against outsourcing overseas - and I'm speaking from experience. You may think this is a good way to save money - with costs being lower in the likes of India - but nothing in life comes free. In my experience - the simplest instructions can be mis-interpreted and what makes sound sense to you could end up giving you an expensive piece of software, utterly over-engineered which is useless to you.

Really, think about developing a relationship with a UK company, check them out personally and go with some small jobs to see how they perform.

Actually, it depends. There is not a lot of things in our life one can a-priory name evil, and certainly outsourcing is not in this list. There happens good experience or bad experience with certain outsourcers, and that's it. Not a big difference if you compare it to local developers. You say: "check them out personally and go with some small jobs to see how they perform". Right! But it is true for any developing company you hire. The only difference between local and offshore ones is that you are able to visit the local office yourself. Not a big deal IMHO: this visit would hardly open your eyelids to some bad things they want to keep hidden. So, the ways to check your vendor are: credentials/references/proven success stories plus small inexpensive test project. That's all, and once more: there is no difference whether it's local or offshore developer, precautions and ways of checkup are absolutely the same.
 
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I would SERIOUSLY recommend against outsourcing overseas - and I'm speaking from experience. You may think this is a good way to save money - with costs being lower in the likes of India - but nothing in life comes free. In my experience - the simplest instructions can be mis-interpreted and what makes sound sense to you could end up giving you an expensive piece of software, utterly over-engineered which is useless to you.

Really, think about developing a relationship with a UK company, check them out personally and go with some small jobs to see how they perform.

I have had the complete opposite experience when outsorcing. I had one programmer who did a lot of work for me and it wasn't straight forward. He understood what I wanted even when I wasn't 100% clear on it and he did a very good job.

Altohugh if this is going to be an ongoing thing then I would probably try and find someone as local as possible so you can always go there if there are any problems
 
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davek17

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I have been involved in running outsourced projects in IT (Helpdesk) and software into India, South Africa and the Czech republic.

One myth is that foreign skills are not up to it. They are and at least as good as UK ones but would I outsource now...No.

The cost of any project ultimately comes after the development of it. So you need someone you can get onsite, who is committed and will deal with issues quickly when you are running (or not!!)

Just be aware that if you outsource the gains aren't as clear as you might think. You will spend a lot of time discussing where things have gone wrong, the communication will be far worse due to time zones, culture and language and a lot of the outsourcing companies are based on margin models designed to ship copied modules out quickly. Any time constaint is damaging their margins.

The only way we got success out of offshoring was to spec out the work to the nth degree which is not agile and potentially costing you more anyway in time and resource or you give out the basic stuff thats hard to get wrong.

Anything critical to me I want done in house or at least in the UK now it will position me far better in the future and personally I think the best cost/risk option is in fact a good freelancer.

In the UK we are very very short on IT expertise, probably due to outsourcong so I understand the issues. The trend is however that we have understood the above and many people are bring everything back onshore. If margin and cost are important then go for it but understand their is a risk and cost to doing this.
 
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Tau1024

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It's the matter of organization and of management. One who thinks outsourcers would just come, wave a wand and he/she instantly becomes happy, he/she should better think once more. Outsourcing requires definite efforts from your side. Saying "definite" I mean thought out and specific: a manager assigned from your side as well as perfectly organized development and communication processes. Actually not a lot, however it's very significant and thus should be well thought out.

We have been hired for dozens of projects with very different customers, and I can recall only two projects that failed, both of them due to the customer's unreadiness to work with outsourcers and, certainly, due to my own fault - I had not check their readiness before starting the projects.

Today (I swear, it's not a contrived coincidence!) I have received a survey filled in by our US customer for Microsoft (as we are MS Certified Partner, they are asking our customers). We are working with this customer for more than 7 years already, and his survey is very interesting since it shows weaknesses and benefits of outsourcing. It's a PDF document, and I could show it here after fading all company names in it not to be accused of blatant advertising. Unfortunately I cannot find a way to attach a file.
 
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Steve its not easy to find such a perfect and reputable company in these days while there is so much competition in market. Promises by companies are just to make fool to clients or customers. But there is a company by whom i am attached now a days and that company is working fairly with me. I am totally satisfied from it and if still you did n`t find anyone than i can share its link with you. Should i?
 
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OliviaSSLGuru

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Well...i don't see any concerns in outsourcing your projects to other countries especially asian countries. You can find significant companies which offers reliable services. I recently heard of infosys. Its a multinational company. You will have to totally rely on word of mouth promotion.
 
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I am new here, but just wanted to chip into this conversation.

We have outsourced to three overseas companies through Odesk in the past year, all major projects.

The work has been dissapointing to be honest, some really poor, some ok.

Just because the previous porfolio is good, does not mean your project will be spot on perfect, as we found the communication issues and the way of doing things, even in this modern would, really difficult.

I am not saying dont do it, and indeed we still use some contractors, all I am saying is be prepared that it might be harder than you think to make sure you project comes back as you need it, you need to manage EVERY step of the way and keep on top of the project at all times.
 
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I outsourced a straightforward, cs-cart customisation to a company in India http://www.perceptionsystem.com/ and was happy with the results - I struggled to find anyone with the skills in this ecommerce system in this country.

The design work was done in the UK so only the coding stuff was sent to India. There were a few interpretation issues and an unexpected public holiday delay but I would use them again for the right kind of project.
 
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Just last week i spent a couple of days working for someone who outsourced a build to india. They didnt get exactly what they wanted, have had a awful hosting service, non existent customer service after the build was complete and the coding of the website looks like a baboon with learning difficulties has written it.

You get what you pay for and if you want something on a budget then fair enough. Besides who am i to argue against it when i often benefit from it.

BUT if you want a truly reliable professional service and business relationship that will last the years; i wouldnt outsource.
 
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anandp

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Agree with a lot of what scargill says but I had cost as a major factor so India had to be the choice. I had slightly different criteria though, in that I wanted a UK-based contact with a development team in India so you get less hassle around the understanding.

PM me if you're still looking.
 
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    The thing that suprised me when looking at India was the prices were basically the same as for the UK, now having been to india many times I know the living costs etc and feel that Indian companies are just ripping off oversea's companies with maybe a small % lower fee when it should be a substantial reduction
     
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    anandp

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    Its horses for courses. I know plenty which charge similar to the UK and ones that are far lower.

    For me its a case of needing a quality benchmark, thereafter it becomes a price issue, no matter where the actual resource is based. As long as I am confident in the skills, quality and communication elements, then its generally a price issue.
     
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    vepro

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    India is a major player in IT outsourcing, with website designing services topping the list of the most popular outsourced tasks. Designing a website needs expertise, experience and a talent for troubleshooting. Hiring such a qualified web designer in the UK or the US can put an organization back by several hundred dollars/ pounds. On the other hand, if that same organization outsources its website designing or web developments requirements to skilled professionals in India, it can avail the same services of a similarly qualified expert for less than a fraction of that cost. But it is always better to go for a dedicated, full time virtual employee as opposed to a freelancer.
     
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    barvas11

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    I got my website designed by Indian company. What a scam they are it's unbelievable. They said that their website will be SEO friendly. When they finished their job there was so many bugs that search engines would never find it. I am Czech so I got it done by one Czech company.
    99% of Indian companies are scam and I recommend to avoid any of their services.
     
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    anandp

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    I got my website designed by Indian company. What a scam they are it's unbelievable. They said that their website will be SEO friendly. When they finished their job there was so many bugs that search engines would never find it. I am Czech so I got it done by one Czech company.
    99% of Indian companies are scam and I recommend to avoid any of their services.

    That's absolute nonsense! Unfortunate though it is that you've had a previous bad experience, this does not mean most Indian companies are scam.

    I've worked with several fantastic Indian firms and a few not-so-good ones too. Equally I've worked with a handful of UK firms - again some good and some I'd never touch again.

    There are scammers in all parts of the world - just go into it with your eyes open, not just because there's an attractive price tag on display!
     
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    barvas11

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    That's absolute nonsense! Unfortunate though it is that you've had a previous bad experience, this does not mean most Indian companies are scam.

    I've worked with several fantastic Indian firms and a few not-so-good ones too. Equally I've worked with a handful of UK firms - again some good and some I'd never touch again.

    There are scammers in all parts of the world - just go into it with your eyes open, not just because there's an attractive price tag on display!

    yeah and 99% of them are from India :)
    I do a lot of trading and buy services from the US, Australia, Canada and UK and the most of these traders a good and honest.
    I even always state "NO INDIANS" when I advertise for work on market places. I must admit that there was one Indian guy which was very good and has done a very good job on one of my projects but he was one of the 100 lol
     
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    ramesh_vikaschouhan

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    Hello,

    I'm looking for a reputable company (not a freelancer) to outsource web design projects too based in India, on a long term basis.

    Has anybody used a company that is good and completes all work on time, without any hassle?

    I've searched on the internet but it's very overwhelming with the amount of businesses out there that offer services, I need to find one I can trust and delivers the work at a reasonable rate.

    With Kind Regards
    Steve
    hello steve , plz get in touch with me .
    My name is Ramesh Chouhan .
    Am from india . www[dot]vikasindiatechnologies[dot]com
    email me : rameshvikaschouhan[at]gmail[dot[com]
    Have my own company . We work in web development . Looking for long term relationship .
    Plz connect me at

     
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    ramesh_vikaschouhan

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    That's absolute nonsense! Unfortunate though it is that you've had a previous bad experience, this does not mean most Indian companies are scam.

    I've worked with several fantastic Indian firms and a few not-so-good ones too. Equally I've worked with a handful of UK firms - again some good and some I'd never touch again.

    There are scammers in all parts of the world - just go into it with your eyes open, not just because there's an attractive price tag on display!
    You are right sir .. but these all people are spoiling the name of good programmers and developers of india .
    I am myself a programmer from india but never gave low quality work to my client .
    I always give my client good support in future if needed and agreed between us .
    if two people both of them are good on both side , then only they will have productive and long term work relations .

    Sir as you are facing some problems regarding SEO .
    If you still have such problem then try it to validate on W3C .
    If still you can't get the help then get in touch with me .
    rameshvikaschouhan[at]gmail[dot]com and
    skype:Ramesh Chouhan

    Good luck ! .
     
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    I have used an Indian company to develop a couple of projects for me and they are currently developing a pretty complex database system for me. They have been very good and I have no hesitation in recommending them. They key is to make sure you know what you need and specify it properly (oh, and have someone you can work with). I've used http://www.umbrella-technologies.com/ and would use them again.
     
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    victorantos

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    Hi,

    I am a web developer and I love working on interesting/creative projects.

    I started an experiment recently. I am working for free for one day every week.
    My first project was "Runners club" it was a project for someone from America.

    Just search for "victorantos thursday" to find more about my experiment. You can send me your project ideas by email. Thanks!
     
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