MLM dying in the UK?

[Steve Wyer]

I spoke to a mate of mine the other day, a great guy in his mid-fifties who has an amazing life...he works when he wants, wherever he wants, plays Golf all the time, has friends all over the world, no money worries, great health.....

I first met Gordon nearly 20 years ago shortly after my first introduction to network marketing with a company called NSA. They were just about to launch a revolutionary health product called Juice Plus. In those early days it was Big news and of course Bad news came with it, lots of it, all over the place. Gordon didn't care because he had VISION

20 years later the Juice Plus Scam is still rolling and still paying my old mate Very Well Indeed...It must be a scam because when you Google it, you find articles that say it is...so it must be true?

 

[vvaannmmaann]

That's only because Gordon is at the top of the pyramid and not swimming in the smelly stuff.

 

I spoke to a mate of mine the other day, a great guy in his mid-fifties who has an amazing life...he works when he wants, wherever he wants, plays Golf all the time, has friends all over the world, no money worries, great health.....

I first met Gordon nearly 20 years ago shortly after my first introduction to network marketing with a company called NSA. They were just about to launch a revolutionary health product called Juice Plus. In those early days it was Big news and of course Bad news came with it, lots of it, all over the place. Gordon didn't care because he had VISION

20 years later the Juice Plus Scam is still rolling and still paying my old mate Very Well Indeed...It must be a scam because when you Google it, you find articles that say it is...so it must be true?

Well if two of you're mates say it ain't true,it must be so.

My mate down the pub still thinks its a scam,but then he has had a few.

 

[Steve Wyer]

That's only because Gordon is at the top of the pyramid and not swimming in the smelly stuff.

Very true mate!
But I remember him up to his neck in smelly stuff with his eyes firmly fixed on top of the great Pyramid.. And now there he is right at the very top, standing astride it, with his arm outstretched, shouting down to the Sh1t shovelers at the bottom..."You Can Do It Too"

 

[vvaannmmaann]

How much money have you invested with Gordon?

 

[Steve Wyer]

Well if two of you're mates say it ain't true,it must be so.

My mate down the pub still thinks its a scam,but then he has had a few.

Wait on...after a few more pints, he'll think it's a Marvelous Idea

 

[garyk]

These organisations will always be embroiled in some dispute. Herbalife and Amway have a trail of issues but still keep rolling on.

MLM is like a franchise though, its not really *your* business so if the scheme promoter goes, so does your earnings. Thats not to say you can't earn money from it, many have and many do.

Gary

 

[thelegalstop]

I think that as many other things, it is time for the MLM to either disappear or develop in a new direction.

 

[MJBR]

I doubt we could be that lucky

Hello can you tell how I create a new post?
I'm new here, thank you.

 

[Steve Wyer]

These organisations will always be embroiled in some dispute. Herbalife and Amway have a trail of issues but still keep rolling on.

MLM is like a franchise though, its not really *your* business so if the scheme promoter goes, so does your earnings. Thats not to say you can't earn money from it, many have and many do.

Gary

Good point Gary, you never really have ownership of anything if someone else can "pull the plug" at any time. Which is why it's always a good thing to have multiple income streams if possible.

 

[Steve Wyer]

The guys at Rippln HQ have just put out this video which explains the whole thing a lot better than I could...just realised, I can't post videos because I,ve less than 15 posts but if you search YouTube for "The Rippln Wealth Revolution - Rippln Explained" it's there.
It's a 14 minute watch, so if you can be bothered...best get yourself a cuppa and a few hobnobs first....

 

[beasty]

Hob Nobs are a fine biscuit

I must get some next time I am in a supermarket

thanks

 

[garyk]

The guys at Rippln HQ have just put out this video which explains the whole thing a lot better than I could...just realised, I can't post videos because I,ve less than 15 posts but if you search YouTube for "The Rippln Wealth Revolution - Rippln Explained" it's there.
It's a 14 minute watch, so if you can be bothered...best get yourself a cuppa and a few hobnobs first....

I did a quick search and read the blurb. The key to this is how good the apps that sit in the Rippln eco-system actually are. The page that I found discusses 'Clash of Clans', a game that I'm quite hooked into at the moment. The key to the sharing is how good the game is, you won't recommend it your friends otherwise. And CoC is a *great* game, very slick. Alot of these type of games have social media integration and work that using incentives to speed up progress through the game.

One major issue I see is are these apps going to run on iOS? I think as a scheme it runs foul of several clauses of the iOS developer licence program agreement (I'm not sure I can share it otherwise I would copy and paste the bits in)

Gary

 

[astutiumRob]

SaltyDroid

I end in tears everytime I visit SaltyDroid. Such an accurate commentary on IM/MLM

 

[Steve Wyer]

I end in tears everytime I visit SaltyDroid. Such an accurate commentary on IM/MLM

Just taken a peek at Salty Droid...not impressed, it's a scam commentary site full of people *****ing and bickering as far as I can see. Certainly not an authority on the Network Marketing industry...

 

[Kernowman]

I have just started a new network marketing business and my single biggest problem is finding people that have some form of energy, determination and drive. Most are apathetic zombies who feel the world owes then a living, or they are 'experts' about how network marketing actually works, in other words they immediately and without even thinking come to the misguided conclusion that it is all just a pyramid scheme with another label stuck on it. I encounter so much prejudice on a daily basis, yet network marketing is the LEAST biased and prejudicial business on the planet, because everyone has an equal opportunity no matter what their age, colour or religion.

Given that the smaller average network marketing company 'employs' in excess of 100,000 agents and the giants like Avon have 6.7 MILLION with a turnover of $10.7 BILLION, Forever Living Products have 9.5 MILLION agents in 145 countries, which dwarfs the likes of Coca Cola, BP, or Unilever.

 

[garyk]

I have just started a new network marketing business and my single biggest problem is finding people that have some form of energy, determination and drive. Most are apathetic zombies who feel the world owes then a living, or they are 'experts' about how network marketing actually works, in other words they immediately and without even thinking come to the misguided conclusion that it is all just a pyramid scheme with another label stuck on it.

But thats just sales, its not what *you* think of your product or offering, or your target audience, its what your *prospect* thinks of it.

MLM has always been sold (wrongly) on the promise of big income for very little effort.

Gary

 

[Ashley_Price]

MLM has always been sold (wrongly) on the promise of big income for very little effort

But I think that's a myth put about by many passed people who have seen MLM as get rich quick schemes, and then lost their investment.

I was involved in 2 or 3 MLMs in the early 90s when they were big in this country, and I don't remember them promoting them as big income for little effort.

The thing is though people see stories like Debbie Davis ("the £7 million Avon Lady"), and think they can do the same without having to do much.

Being an MLM rep is no different to running any other sort of business, you still have to work very hard to be a success and make real money out of it. But because usually the schemes have a small initial outlay, and so they do tend to attract the "get rich quick" believers.

Obviously, if someone is thinking of becoming a rep then they need to thoroughly research the firms they're looking at joining, but then you would do this if you were planning to buy a business from someone else.