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  • #121
    GRDCredit said:
    How does that work then? Just one persons opinion does not sum up the whole situation at all.

    Some will agree with him, some will not and some (like me) couldn't give a wotnot either way.
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    Oh I think its a pretty balanced attitude to the pop idol scene en mass.

    It must be something lacking in people that makes them want to elevate quite ordinary ,if somewhat talented people to be super beings.

    When in most cases its all down to chance ,timing and opportunity or in the case of the peoples princess marriage.:D

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  • #122
    selfeax said:
    I am glad you used the term "possible crimes of paedophilia". By your own admission, that is not a fact. He was not convicted. Fact.
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    I could say the same re Hitler..it's all just wild accusations for which there is no 'conviction'.

    If as many believe MJ is guilty, then comparing him to every evil doer in the world is entirely appropriate.

    Throughout history the rich have indulged themselves in crimes with money as their 'get out of jail free' card.

    If every single one of his accusers happens to be a liar then that's another matter. Time will tell.
     
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  • #123
    website copy said:
    I could say the same re Hitler..it's all just wild accusations for which there is no 'conviction'.

    If as many believe MJ is guilty, then comparing him to every evil doer in the world is entirely appropriate.

    Throughout history the rich have indulged themselves in crimes with money as their 'get out of jail free' card.

    If every single one of his accusers happens to be a liar then that's another matter. Time will tell.
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    Are you serious?

    Hitler attempted to invade numerous countries and launched many attacks on the UK. It's fairly obvious what he did. Tens of millions of people died due to the Nazi regime when Hitler was in control.

    Young people claimed Michael Jackson did things to them but there's no proof, nothing to convict him with. It's impossible to compare the two. A few people (who had rather good reasons for claiming this: millions of dollars in pay-outs) have said Michael did this, then loads of people started to believe it as well, based on media spin.

    (At this point I would like to refer people to Godwin's law).
     
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  • #124
    Scott-CopyandDesign said:
    Are you serious?

    A few people (who had rather good reasons for claiming this: millions of dollars in pay-outs) have said Michael did this, then loads of people started to believe it as well, based on media spin.
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    But the payouts were made afterwards and nobody I have ever met pays money (particularly massive amounts) to people who try to get them jailed.

    I have trouble believing there was not something wrong going on, and it tarnishes the guy irreparably in my eyes I'm afraid.

    The hype now being spouted is too much to take, and the seemingly easy way his 'fans' believe his innocence and shout it so loudly, makes me feel uncomfortable with people in general.

    If the guy is guilty, would you change your mind about him?
    If not, then I'm kinda disgusted.

    If he is innocent, then why did he not try to prove to the world beyond any doubts, and not cast further fuel by paying out such huge sums?

    What about the dangling incident? If that had been anyone else famous, how would you view that person?
     
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  • #127
    Jackson went on the record on public interview, saying that he saw nothing wrong in a kid sharing bed and bedroom with an unrelated grown man on sleepovers with him - he said it was a beuatiful thing. So whether or not it went further than that - his opinions and actions were distasteful enough.
     
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  • #129
    admagic said:
    Jackson went on the record on public interview, saying that he saw nothing wrong in a kid sharing bed and bedroom with an unrelated grown man on sleepovers with him - he said it was a beuatiful thing. So whether or not it went further than that - his opinions and actions were distasteful enough.
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    His fans will excuse this behaviour, imagine it was an MP sleeping with little boys!
     
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  • #130
    admagic said:
    Jackson went on the record on public interview, saying that he saw nothing wrong in a kid sharing bed and bedroom with an unrelated grown man on sleepovers with him - he said it was a beuatiful thing. So whether or not it went further than that - his opinions and actions were distasteful enough.
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    I saw that interview, and it did make the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end I must admit.

    There was something creepy about him then, and I never really got over it I think.

    Personally, I cannot understand all this apparent willingness to forgive him, and the vociferous way in which he is 'defended' now, and even the words used are watered down to make his alleged crimes seem less somehow.

    Someone actually said I used bad language when I called him a Child Molester, yet they had the cheek to refer to another UKBF member using the same language, when they know for a fact they were just making that up. Scary tbh.
     
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  • #131
    Comspec said:
    I saw that interview, and it did make the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end I must admit.

    There was something creepy about him then, and I never really got over it I think.

    Personally, I cannot understand all this apparent willingness to forgive him, and the vociferous way in which he is 'defended' now, and even the words used are watered down to make his alleged crimes seem less somehow.

    Someone actually said I used bad language when I called him a Child Molester, yet they had the cheek to refer to another UKBF member using the same language, when they know for a fact they were just making that up. Scary tbh.
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    So true

    I was told I deserved to have my head kicked in as I had demonstrated in this thread I 'wasn't nice'

    This judgement of my not 'being nice' was based on my comment that I didn't care that he'd died.

    To conclude

    If you're not nice you deserve to have to have your head kicked in.

    Of course the person who made that comment is a real warm hearted person :)

    Scary indeed that they can't see how 'nuts' this blinkered perspective is.
     
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    nobody deserves to die in any shape or form but i think what the media are doing now is going completely over board for one individual. with people dying for our country in iraq and afgan have suddenly lost the interest of the media so they dont get the mention they should nowhere near.
    he was no doubt a legend at what he did in his industry but as a person there was something seriously wrong with the man . my opinion is nobody settles out of court 20 million dollars and acused of nine other account of child molestation if he is innocent and hang your own child over a balcony the way he did.
     
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  • #133
    website copy said:
    If MJ is proven in death to be guilty as charged, will he really be excused his crimes?

    That's appalling.

    I don't like the way celebs 'get off' for hideous crimes or have their seriousness played down just because they are popular.
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    How can be be proven guilty in death, when he's not there to defend himself. Woman, get a grip!!!
     
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  • #134
    admagic said:
    Jackson went on the record on public interview, saying that he saw nothing wrong in a kid sharing bed and bedroom with an unrelated grown man on sleepovers with him - he said it was a beuatiful thing. So whether or not it went further than that - his opinions and actions were distasteful enough.
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    Well, where I come from there is nothing wrong with an adult sharing a bed with a child. Young children would stay over with their parents friends. There was nothing wrong with it then and nothing wrong with it now.

    I guess different cultures, sees things in different ways. But don't expect every culture to be the same.
     
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  • #136
    Comspec said:
    I saw that interview, and it did make the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end I must admit.

    There was something creepy about him then, and I never really got over it I think.

    Personally, I cannot understand all this apparent willingness to forgive him, and the vociferous way in which he is 'defended' now, and even the words used are watered down to make his alleged crimes seem less somehow.

    Someone actually said I used bad language when I called him a Child Molester, yet they had the cheek to refer to another UKBF member using the same language, when they know for a fact they were just making that up. Scary tbh.
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    I guess if something is common in your culture, then it makes you think more about it, in my culture child molestation is a NO NO, therefore MJ was being honest when he said he saw nothing wrong with sharing a bed with a small child.
     
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  • #137
    billie1 said:
    I guess if something is common in your culture, then it makes you think more about it, in my culture child molestation is a NO NO, therefore MJ was being honest when he said he saw nothing wrong with sharing a bed with a small child.
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    In my culture child molestation is a NO NO too. Which sort of explains why grown men sleeping in the same bed as children when there is perfectly good alternative accommodation available in the mansion is seen as a bit of a WTF.
     
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  • #138
    Dawg said:
    In my culture child molestation is a NO NO too. Which sort of explains why grown men sleeping in the same bed as children when there is perfectly good alternative accommodation available in the mansion is seen as a bit of a WTF.
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    Remember children sometimes don't like sleeping on their own, especially not in a mansion.
     
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  • #139
    website copy said:
    So true

    I was told I deserved to have my head kicked in as I had demonstrated in this thread I 'wasn't nice'

    This judgement of my not 'being nice' was based on my comment that I didn't care that he'd died.

    To conclude

    If you're not nice you deserve to have to have your head kicked in.

    Of course the person who made that comment is a real warm hearted person :)

    Scary indeed that they can't see how 'nuts' this blinkered perspective is.
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    Obviously said with some sort of sarcasm. At the end of the day one had the decency to PM and ask for an apology for any offence caused as this is a forum. That shows what person I am. In regards to yourself did I get a reply ... NO. You make up your mind about what kind of a person you are.

    In the meantime to conclude:

    This thread is about Michael Jackson and any messages of appreciation. Individuals who did not have a nice thing to say should have not butted in and posted. If you did not like the guy why waste your time posting when you can better spend your time reaching new customers :rolleyes:
     
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  • #144
    website copy said:
    Don't be so silly!

    They'll bring him on in his glass topped coffin right after they've finished exhibiting him at Neverland

    http://allafrica.com/stories/200907020092.html

    honestly some people have NO imagination ;)
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    I thought you'd bow out for good. Obviously can't help yourself.

    For your information there is no truth in the story that Michael Jackson will be displayed at Neverland, his family has denied it and said there will only be a public memorial. Stop believing everthing you read like a headless chicken.
     
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  • #147
    website copy said:
    The funny thing is that that now Jacko is dead his family seem intent on making as much money out of him as they can

    Now that's pretty sick right?
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    Nah. They are using a window of opportunity to ensure MJ's name (PBUH) and fame is spread as far and wide as possible for the glory of God, Disco and The American Economy.

    Rather good of them to bother at a time of tribulation, doncha kno?
     
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  • #150
    cmcp said:
    website_copy you crack me up! you should run for PM.

    seriously, i thought people like this only existed in Katie and Peter stateside.
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    Don't think I haven't thought of it either!

    Manifesto will be out shortly.

    Meanwhile as a non Katie & Peter fan (I assume you are as you watch their programming) I can't comment.
     
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  • #152
    billie1 said:
    No, they're intent on keeping his legacy alive.
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    dawg said:
    Nah. They are using a window of opportunity to ensure MJ's name (PBUH) and fame is spread as far and wide as possible for the glory of God, Disco and The American Economy.
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    Ya all see? Me 'n Billie are like that in the eyes of the Lord. Hallelujah! Praise be!

    And pass the snakes, Brother Bucky Joe Ray.
     
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  • #153
    billie1 said:
    Stop believing everthing you read like a headless chicken.
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    Could someone please explain this one to me? :p

    billie1 said:
    No, they're intent on keeping his legacy alive.
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    So all the proceeds will be going to charity then?

    stugster said:
    Haha, love it. Be religious or take some verbal abuse!
    How very Christian.
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    Could be worse, a few hundred years ago he'd have been calling for the heretic to be burned? :D
     
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