Links vs Articles

[gemd89]

Im currently writing loads of articles with links back to product pages, product categories and the homepage of my site.

I just wondered 3 things

- Is it better to have the articles on my website blog or submit then to article sites?

-Which article sites are the best for google to rank my site better?

-Which is better article writing with backlinks or normal backlinks?

Thanks
Gemma

 

[Asim786]

A combination of both is good, posting unique content on your site and posting a few articles on article submission sites.

I tend to use Ezinearticles to submit my articles to.

Links are links so I would always provide a link with your article. It depends where the link is posted, links with lower pagerank and not in the same niche as yours, won't count as highly as links on higher pagerank sites.

 

[rakeback]

I was just about to post a similar question so thanks gemd89 for bringing up this subject.

I have lots of articles on Ezine, Go and article base article directories, however I have not put these articles on my website/blog.

Should I also post these articles on my blog, or because its duplicate content, could it have a negative effect on my website in googles eyes? Can anyone confirm.

cheers

 

[gemd89]

Thats what i was thinking about the duplicate content? But isnt it better to have a website with lots of useful content than to post it on article sites - but then again i need the backlinks from articles and not inlinks from my site....

Also im sure the articles would be better on article sites than me posted random backlinks to my site from other various rubbish sites, forum directories, blog comments - is this correct?

So which is best for SEO - articles or backlinks?

Gemma

 

[gemd89]

So if i had 100 articles i would submit each one to a different directory to get the backlinks to have more weight?

Or would i submit all 100 articles to each directory?

Gemma

 

[Mystro]

So if i had 100 articles i would submit each one to a different directory to get the backlinks to have more weight?

Or would i submit all 100 articles to each directory?

Gemma

I would put all the articles on your website, making each one its own individual page with titles and description, i would wait for them to get indexed then spend a bit of time on each one re-wording (spinning) and then submitting to around 5-10 of the top article directorys

better to have the content on your website than 100 links all comming back from the same ip of the article directory.

 

[gordi555]

Oh and please check to see if these are dofollow links to before you post to them. You can use a FireFox extension called SearchStatus to see if they are or not!

 

[gemd89]

If i put them on my website though the links would still all be coming from the same IP??

Gemma

 

[gemd89]

So ezine we would say is the best article directory?

Gemma

 

[gordi555]

I'd say best directory is ezinearticles too.

 

[KARANBUSINESS]

Its always better to go with Press Releases.

Well for articles its always better to have internal linking with the blog and the home site would be better. Its like linking both the articles and the home site.

 

[gemd89]

So google would prefer me to have the article written on my blog linking to my internal pages, than have it on an article site? Would this be worth more links and take me up the ranks in google.

Whats the difference between article and press release? And what do you mean press release is better?

Thanks
Gemma

 

[gemd89]

I dont think i have any 'press' to write about!

I would love to be answering emails and calls from media and journalists all day long but unfortunately im not creative enough to make press about my business!

Gemma

 

[Mystro]

If i put them on my website though the links would still all be coming from the same IP??

Gemma

The links wont count for much on your own website, the idea of putting a quality article on your own website is to get it in the rankings and bring traffic diirect to you and then if people like the article they will link to it, that will be a direct link to your website rather than the link going to Ezine

 

[MartinJonsoin]

So google would prefer me to have the article written on my blog linking to my internal pages, than have it on an article site? Would this be worth more links and take me up the ranks in google.

Whats the difference between article and press release? And what do you mean press release is better?

Thanks
Gemma

You've been given some great answers already. The best way to go is to use a combination of posting to your own site, guest posting on other peoples sites/blogs and submitting articles to ezinearticles, articlebase and the like. In short:

>Keep the best articles for your own site, make sure headers etc are in order, ofc.

>Get in touch with owners of other sites and blogs within your niche and arrange content and links exchanges. Depending on your niche and what your site looks like etc.. most people will be up for this, I've found, as it's mutually beneficial. I'm not saying you should go to direct competitors, though!

>As Mystro mentioned, spin your articles and submit them to ezine and similar services.

>Don't worry too much about duplicate content. Obviously you don't want to use the exactly same articles in lots of places, but people generally do fear the old "duplicate content penalty" a bit too much. Google has repeatedly made clear that there is no need to worry about duplicate content, they know what they're doing and won't punish you unless you deserve it...

 

[gemd89]

So i have an article on my blog - hyperlinking product pages with keywords - if it put this on my blog google wouldnt see it as links coming into my site so wouldnt rank me for the keywords?

Im trying to rank best for the keywords so whats the best idea for my articles with keywords?

Gemma

 

[Mystro]

So i have an article on my blog - hyperlinking product pages with keywords - if it put this on my blog google wouldnt see it as links coming into my site so wouldnt rank me for the keywords?

Im trying to rank best for the keywords so whats the best idea for my articles with keywords?

Gemma

Don't stuff them full of keywords, keep it to 2 maybe 3 at most, keep the article natural and easy for people to read, do not worry about the keywords too much but obviously keep it on theme with your site (if that make sense)

what you hope is that people read your article and then let other know about it via a link.

I have known articles to attract 100's of links but they have to be worthy and well written.

bare in mind each page should target a new keyword dont try to send all traffic to the home page with too many keywords, Google is liking the inner pages these days with the longtail keywords.

 

[gemd89]

The articles will all be around parties and events so will all be on the theme of my website and im looking at longer keytail phrases as well as the shorter more competitive keywords and the links are also deep links as well as links to the homepage

Gemma

 

[gemd89]

Mystro - Is that post on blog or articlesite or both?

Gemma

 

[Mystro]

Mystro - Is that post on blog or articlesite or both?

Gemma

Same rule should apply to both, article directorys dont like too many links, some only let you have one, but most will allow 3, but i just looked at your blog and it has 9 links in a 300 word article, thats over doing it a little

The Harry Potter on your blog that went up today , linked in the plates twice, supplies twice, once is more than enough you want people to read them and then hopfully go to your page and buy something.

 

[MASSEY]

Im pretty sure if you study the other sites in the very competitve area you are trying to compete article links will be almost non existent compared to paid links. The link juice from articles is not woth the effort submitting them in my opinion.

 

[rakeback]

Heres a list of do follow ranging from PR2-PR6

http://ezinearticles.com/ 6
http://goarticles.com/ 6
http://www.selfgrowth.com/topics.html 6
http://www.isnare.com/ 6
http://www.buzzle.com 5
http://www.articledashboard.com 5
http://www.articlecity.com 5
http://www.site-reference.com 5
http://www.thewhir.com/article-central 5
http://articlet.com 5
http://www.articlecircle.com 5
http://www.articlepool.com 5
http://www.articleblast.com 5
http://www.easyarticles.com 4
http://www.articler.com 4
http://www.articlesfactory.com 4
http://www.talkinmince.com 3
http://www.articlecompilation.com 3
http://www.ideamarketers.com 3
http://www.articlerich.com 3
http://www.allbestarticles.com 3
http://www.web-source.net 3
http://www.articlepros.com 3
http://www.articleco.com 3
http://www.articleonramp.com 3
http://www.everyonesarticles.com 2
http://www.amazines.com 2
http://e-articles.info 2
http://www.articlesphere.com 2
http://www.s-article.com 2
http://articledirectory.com 2

 

[MASSEY]

The page your article ends up on has a page rank of ..... wait for it.....

0
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[rakeback]

???? explain please?

 

[Results]

???? explain please?

The page that your article goes on is not the home page (PR6 for example) The Home page of the article site has the PR due to the links going into IT.

That homepage (which has 10/20/30/40/50+ links going out of it - effectively dividing up the 'link juice') probably links to a 'category' page with 20/30/40/50+ categories on it. Then each of those pages has further sub-categories, then each sub category has hundreds, if not thousands of articles like yours.

By the time the 'juice' gets to you it is absolutely worthless. (basically)

The big challenge is getting articles on or 'right next to' high(ish) PageRank pages. PageRank is an almost worthless metric in terms of ranking your site, but does have 'meaning' (along with other significant things) when it comes to getting a link FROM a page.

I hardly ever refuse an offer of a link (in) but the links and pages we supply/put articles on are hardly worth chasing/effort if they are less than PR3 - ideally PR4. 'Linksnobby', I know - but it's about doing what you know will work as opposed to 'hope' will work.

 

[rakeback]

Thanks for the explanation there. it make sense.

can you clarify what you mean by this statement

but the links and pages we supply/put articles on are hardly worth chasing/effort if they are less than PR3 - ideally PR4.

So are you saying you still do post articles on article directory sites like ezine (as long as its over PR3) even though you think it really isnt worth it, except for the extra visitors it may bring?

 

[MartinJonsoin]

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So are you saying you still do post articles on article directory sites like ezine (as long as its over PR3) even though you think it really isnt worth it, except for the extra visitors it may bring?

On that subject I'd like to add that the traffic that can be brought in directly from such directories should not be dismissed too lightly. As always it will depend on your niche and what you're expecting from the traffic, but for some it's great. I added just one article - to start with, that is! - to ezinearticles a while back for a website of mine and it quickly started bringing in traffic on par with that of links from sites I'd exchanged with (even though these were all very targeted and high traffic).

Edit: The article I added was, of course, of very high quality and very relevant indeed to my website.

 

[fisicx]

Gemma,

Instead of writing articles why not put the information on the product pages. Suppose you have a costume that is brought for a party. In the bag you put a 10% discount voucher if they provide a party report and a photo. You then add the info to the product page with the picture. Building up the product pages with links to related products and other customer tesimonials will do more for your site than 100 spun articles.

If you want to write a longer article about the particular party and the grerat themed costumes they brought then put it on your site. Either as an article or a blog post it doesn't matter. At the moment you don't need the inbound links, you need decent page titles and product descriptions and associated products and so on.

 

[Results]

Thanks for the explanation there. it make sense.

can you clarify what you mean by this statement

...

So are you saying you still do post articles on article directory sites like ezine (as long as its over PR3) even though you think it really isnt worth it, except for the extra visitors it may bring?

If I'm honest - I don't know/concentrate on much other than what helps get and convert visitors through the search engines, and don't think much (in fact anything) about visitors coming through article sites.

Therefore I do not post on ['free for all'] article sites any more - as a general rule: if it's easy for anyone/everyone to do, then it is not worth much.

 

[RadiusBPO]

Articles do help rankings, I finished a small submission run on my own site and my rank moved from 15th to 8th. This is for a search term with 24000000 results. Imagine what they can do if the keywords aren't competitive..

 

[SFD]

The page your article ends up on has a page rank of ..... wait for it.....

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Hmm, now if only there was a way of getting some pagerank to that page, then maybe it would be a lot more beneficial. I wonder how that could be done

 

[fisicx]

Articles do help rankings, I finished a small submission run on my own site and my rank moved from 15th to 8th. This is for a search term with 24000000 results. Imagine what they can do if the keywords aren't competitive..

Mixed messages there. The number of results is no indication of competitive keywords.

 

[Results]

Articles do help rankings, I finished a small submission run on my own site and my rank moved from 15th to 8th. This is for a search term with 24000000 results. Imagine what they can do if the keywords aren't competitive..

'24000000 results' does not mean competitive - 'egg fish' - would be an EASY keyword to rank for - and has 23,800,000 results.

The number of results is useless for measuring competition.

What is the keyword & what do you class as a 'small submission run'?

 

[RadiusBPO]

Mixed messages there. The number of results is no indication of competitive keywords.

and 124000 sites targeting the keyword, found using this command on google -

intitle:"key words" inanchor:"key words"

 

[fisicx]

and 124000 sites targeting the keyword, found using this command on google -

intitle:"key words" inanchor:"key words"

Mixed messages again. All that tells you the keywords are in the title/anchor in some combination or another. See post above from Results.

 

[Results]

Hmm, now if only there was a way of getting some pagerank to that page, then maybe it would be a lot more beneficial. I wonder how that could be done

Sorry, I'm quite new here, but by your post I guess you do some sort of SEO and know ways of getting links with PR to point at those pages with your articles on them?

If so...

1. The juice that you send to the article gets divided among loads of other pages as well as your own site (with ezine it's about 50-60 other links on the article pages). Why not send those links straight to your site? Or at least to a site that only has a couple of outbound links on the page that your link is on?

2. There were 2 points/questions I wanted to make/ask but have forgotten the second.

 

[RadiusBPO]

Mixed messages again. All that tells you the keywords are in the title/anchor in some combination or another. See post above from Results.

No it makes it clear as day.

It tells you the number of sites actively targeting the keywords in the title and in their anchor text.

 

[SFD]

1. The juice that you send to the article gets divided among loads of other pages as well as your own site (with ezine it's about 50-60 other links on the article pages). Why not send those links straight to your site? Or at least to a site that only has a couple of outbound links on the page that your link is on?

You can do both, but sending links back to your article is a way of getting a 'decent' inbound link, in that it is relevant, has your desired anchor text, comes from a trusted site, and has decent PR. I use the term decent very loosely.

Your link will be in the body of the text which is the best place to be and also relevant to the title of the page. I'm not saying it is a fantastic link, I'm just saying it is better than an article link on it's own.

You can also do it with a site that only has a couple of outbounds, depends where your links are.

2. There were 2 points/questions I wanted to make/ask but have forgotten the second.

lol

 

[Results]

No it makes it clear as day.

It tells you the number of sites actively targeting the keywords in the title and in their anchor text.

intitle:"extra large" inanchor:"extra large"
225,000 results


intitle:"cheap ipods" inanchor:"cheap ipods"
3670

I guarantee that it would be MUCH easier to rank for 'extra large' than for 'cheap ipods' - even though the 'figures' suggest otherwise.

 

[MASSEY]

I would rather build links to domains i oxn to link to main sites, also you can stand a chance of gettin more than 1 site on page 1 that way, but i suppose a few articles here and ther can be good for the Semantic element of a sites content?