If numbers don’t go up.

Discussion in 'COVID-19 Forum' started by James Johnson, May 17, 2020.

  1. James Johnson

    James Johnson UKBF Regular Free Member

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    As the title says do you reckon if infection numbers don’t go up and continue to plummet as they are now the cards will just tumble and things could pretty much get back to normal fairly quickly?

    Do you think people will demand this if this is the case and social distancing will fade away and the hospitality sector and events industry as examples will bounce back fairly quickly and this whole lockdown will be looked upon as a massive over reaction?

    Let’s hope so.
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: James Johnson Member since: Sep 23, 2018
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  2. Newchodge

    Newchodge UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    Your first sentence is a big IF.

    I don't think hospitality and leisure will be open this side of August, even if then.
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  3. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    Infection rates will only fall if social distancing continues. As soon as you let people mingle again infection rates goes back up.

    We are unlikely to ever go back to how it was. There will be a new normal.
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  4. alan1302

    alan1302 UKBF Ace Free Member

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    If the infection rate keeps going down. Which is due to the lockdown. Will people think the lockdown was an over reaction??
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: alan1302 Member since: Jun 2, 2018
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  5. billybob99

    billybob99 UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Hope so. Can't stand peopleing.
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: billybob99 Member since: Apr 23, 2013
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  6. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    Of course they will. They will question if it was ever necessary.
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  7. MY OFFICE IN CHINA

    MY OFFICE IN CHINA UKBF Legend Full Member

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    You live in hope!

    What happens to the second wave, especially with the flu season arriving before next winter?

    May make the past 2 months seem like a tea party.

    I hear fishing is back in people's daily lives.
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: MY OFFICE IN CHINA Member since: Nov 16, 2011
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  8. James Johnson

    James Johnson UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Ron the Don - how’s tricks?

    Unless we have just had the 2nd wave as the first wave would surely have been in December/January as the lying Chinese must have been spreading it and travelling with it long before they had to report it.

    Maybe we have more immunity than we think and we are over the worst.

    I hear Chinese foot jobs are back in people’s lives over there
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: James Johnson Member since: Sep 23, 2018
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  9. MY OFFICE IN CHINA

    MY OFFICE IN CHINA UKBF Legend Full Member

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    A bundle of fun!



    The lying Chinese are just that and selfish to boot. This will open people's eyes, if they need opening!



    Dreamland . . . .



    Getting worse . . . . . .
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: MY OFFICE IN CHINA Member since: Nov 16, 2011
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  10. Interestedobserver

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    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: Interestedobserver Member since: Apr 15, 2020
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  11. Interestedobserver

    Interestedobserver UKBF Regular Free Member

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    What have you seen or read anywhere that suggests numbers will continue to plummet when social distancing is relaxed?

    If only it was going to be that easy
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: Interestedobserver Member since: Apr 15, 2020
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  12. Bluejen84

    Bluejen84 UKBF Regular Free Member

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    People are already getting more relaxed. I can see it from customers in our shop and the park we go past every day.

    There is still a huge chunk treating it strictly. I'm still leaving orders outside customers cars etc

    Less masked people coming in now
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: Bluejen84 Member since: Feb 25, 2020
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  13. James Johnson

    James Johnson UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Seen 1000’s of people not adhering to social distancing rules and regs and as yet numbers not going up - tubes/buses/parks - that’s my whole point. I know it’s only been a week so let’s give it another two but if people are just doing what they want and breaking all rules and the infection rate keeps going down .... then it might be that easy.
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: James Johnson Member since: Sep 23, 2018
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  14. Interestedobserver

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    People don't even know they've got it for the first few days

    And what you've seen so far is nothing like hospitality and events starting again?

    All it is - is more relaxed social distancing?

    You honestly think the entire world economy would have been put on hold and the lockdown measures not introduced if we hadn't needed to

    So far we are seeing people relax social distancing outdoors. Meeting indoors is a whole different level of risk

    We are going to really struggle in the winter
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: Interestedobserver Member since: Apr 15, 2020
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  15. Interestedobserver

    Interestedobserver UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Ok let's discuss this again in a couple of weeks time
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: Interestedobserver Member since: Apr 15, 2020
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  16. James Johnson

    James Johnson UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Your jumping to all sort of conclusions and assumptions about my views, please re read my posts and you will see I just asked what people’s thoughts would be on if the infection rate went down quicker than we thought and with people mingling would we see a faster return to normal including the two industries I mentioned.

    Nothing more nothing less.. but feel free to make up whatever suits you about me, no problem for me.
     
    Posted: May 17, 2020 By: James Johnson Member since: Sep 23, 2018
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  17. Interestedobserver

    Interestedobserver UKBF Regular Free Member

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    I've not made anything up about you?

    Ive taken time to reply to your thread. If you don't like my answers fair enough.

    No need to get defensive
     
    Posted: May 18, 2020 By: Interestedobserver Member since: Apr 15, 2020
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  18. SteveHa

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    From someone in a high risk category, there are some questions that you need to consider:

    1. Has an effective treatment been found?
    A. No

    2. Has a vaccine been developed?
    A. No

    3. Is the rate of infection dropping because people are not meeting each other?
    A. Probably

    4. Has Covid-19 been isolated out of existence?
    A. No

    5. So what has changed that warrants re-populating its favourite breeding ground?
    A. Nothing.
     
    Posted: May 18, 2020 By: SteveHa Member since: Jun 16, 2016
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  19. Maxwell83

    Maxwell83 UKBF Regular Free Member

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    1000's of people not socially distancing is different to 66M people. Do you think that falling numbers are because some people AREN'T socially distancing, or because some people ARE?

    When you implement something, and you get the result you expected from that thing, it seems illogical to say "Oh look, I got what I wanted, so doing that thing which I thought would get me what I wanted was actually a waste of time".

    That is like dieting, exercising daily and then when you lose weight saying "all that diet and exercise was a waste of time. I lost the weight".
     
    Posted: May 18, 2020 By: Maxwell83 Member since: Aug 4, 2012
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  20. Alison Moore

    Alison Moore UKBF Regular Full Member

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    The virus will die out eventually , however it's going to take time until either everyone has built up immunity to it (assuming that we can build up immunity to this particular strain) or there is a vaccine for it. I can't see the hospitality trade being allowed to re-open fully in August. Perhaps hotels limiting how many people they're allowed to have stay at any one time, but then you've got the issue of can hotels only be half full and pay all their overheads? Restaurants are difficult as its not as if you can wear a mask when eating. Personally I can see some form of 'lockdown' being in place until at least Autumn and longer for anyone in the vulnerable categories.
     
    Posted: May 18, 2020 By: Alison Moore Member since: Aug 4, 2016
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