How do you get quality back links?

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Hospitality_king

You cant - you'll never get em for free. Mainly cos the simple fact that such website are owned by people who charge for links.

You must buy the space from them.

Don't want to? that's fine, then eventually you get know traffic, sites will dies and it will all be over. People still think the web is a free for all spam fest omg lol.
 
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    Requesting backlinks is a waste of time.

    You have to give people a real reason to link to you.

    Which in reality means way beyond excellent content. But then you also have to tell people that content exists. And even then ....
     
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    Requesting backlinks is a waste of time.

    You have to give people a real reason to link to you.

    Which in reality means way beyond excellent content. But then you also have to tell people that content exists. And even then ....


    probably the most mature, sensible post I seen in years on any forum.
     
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    Haven't done it for a while, but back when I was doing lots of SEO this tactic worked well:

    1) Find some sites which you'd like to link to you.
    2) Crawl their site using a tool like www.brokenlinkcheck.com
    3) Find the broken URLs on their site
    4) Send them a helpful email pointing out the broken link and either ask them to link to you, or offer to create a piece of content for them on a similar topic, as a replacement for the broken link
     
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    webgeek

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    Guest publishing - providing the site with some amazing content that they have exclusive rights to publish on their site, with a byline or other single link, using your domain name or homepage URL as the anchor, providing of course the site is relevant to your niche, is the right way to get an external mention.

    The other, primary approach, is to publish amazing content on your site, sometimes referencing and linking to other sites. If it's good enough you'll get direct links from a wide range of sites, especially if it's a Best Practice Guide or other prescription for how to do something. If it's good, but not amazing, you may only get a reciprocal link back from the people you mention and link to in the content you post on site yourself.

    Link begging is one approach, that can work, with enough persistence, especially if you engage with influencers socially. I wouldn't use it as my primary strategy though - it's just not likely to draw the high trust, high authority links that make the big impact.
     
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    makeusvisible

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    The number one rule is to think outside the box. A cliche I know, but it's true in this case.

    The second rule.....there are no shortcuts. Well there are.... but they will likely lead you down the wrong path, and result in negative impact rather than positive.

    Getting quality unique links is an absolute slog...... and it needs a strategy and regular time spending on it. Every project is different, hence the first rule 'think outside the box'.

    To give you a real world example.... we have a client who manufacturers in the UK. There products are dotted all around the UK, and are predominantly for children. We recently undertook an exercise of contacting 'mum bloggers', and asking them if they would write a review. We vetted these based on;

    Quality of their website
    Social media following
    Physical location to one of our clients products

    We had to offer incentives to these bloggers..... but we were able to generate half a dozen reviews, and links from highly relevant sites. We also gained traction on Twitter and Facebook where the reviews were promoted.

    You can imagine the time involved...but the gains are there to be had...if you put the time in.

    Good luck.
     
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    We had to offer incentives to these bloggers.....

    love to know what they were, just so I could blog about such strategies.

    In 10 years never heard of a case of getting clients anywhere near one of the real info based sites for free. As I run several, I knows why..

    but we were able to generate half a dozen reviews, and links from highly relevant sites

    6 reviews and some links - and you thik that's a success? Just one of my lower end sites get at least 5000 free links per year, no effort at all.

    So about 80k links all free over the years
     
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    vouchers in exchange for a link eh mmm - interesting, so you r getting a one way link and not have to link back. Bit pricey on the postage sending those out I bet.

    But will enough go for that deal... I mean it wont get you 10k in links and for reviews to work, you need to build a decent profile for the client to:

    1. impress the client

    2. enough links to get the traffic
     
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    makeusvisible

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    vouchers in exchange for a link eh mmm - interesting, so you r getting a one way link and not have to link back. Bit pricey on the postage sending those out I bet.

    But will enough go for that deal... I mean it wont get you 10k in links and for reviews to work, you need to build a decent profile for the client to:

    1. impress the client

    2. enough links to get the traffic

    Vouchers were only sent out after the reviews were done, so postage wasn't an issue.....each link however probably cost upwards of £100. It was well worth it owing to the social media traction of each, and of course the equity in the link.

    The client in this case was a large multi-national.....people were reviewing based on the brand name, and the same definitely wouldn't work if they brand hadn't been familiar to the mum-bloggers.

    It was definitely an out-of-the-box one off strategy, and we havent used it for any other client.... but it does show how every single business needs a totally bespoke strategy when it comes to link building.
     
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    webgeek

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    "why do so many assume every site in the weorld is set up to house articles oe even has blog? U now that many sole trader sites wont have this right :eek: and wants exclusive rights too, jeeze louise - you don't want much then huh :rolleyes: just to be the only mensioned..... for total free??? That is a s arrogant as hell man, the size of peoples nuts these days lol - what an insane request to make."

    What I said was that the sole trader writes the content and gives it to the other site to publish, ensuring them that the content won't be published elsewhere, thus giving them exclusive rights to use it. By doing so, it eliminates any risk of duplicate content penalties and provides the site owner with exactly what they crave - unique, quality content at a low overhead.

    I have no idea what you're on about, but guess you must have misread what was written, as this is basic off-site content publishing / link building 101.
     
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    6 reviews and some links - and you thik that's a success? Just one of my lower end sites get at least 5000 free links per year, no effort at all.

    I'll take 6 honest reviews on niche relevant sites over 5,000 to 50,000 garbage links any day of the week. In fact, 6 is enough to crush a site with 50,000 garbage links most days.
     
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    What I said was that the sole trader writes the content and gives it to the other site to publish, ensuring them that the content won't be published elsewhere

    I nows what you saing - still don't change the fact those types employing such strategy will fall on their face. My travel company deals with these jokers, and the fact we delete 1000 spam emails per month proves our authority on this.

    Skilled Seos? skilled enough to get into a site form yes - but deletion m akes it short lived by about 5 mintues - the time it takes for site owners to log-in an hit the zap button. still sure your client links are active - better check to be sure. Tell me - wehat does Google do when it finds a link that is no more - what appens to the search ranks? you lose it right, gone forever man - now the Seos just find another way to do bsiness and stop charging for con job services.

    In fact, 6 is enough to crush a site with 50,000 garbage links most days.

    Not with my 500k a year traffic it wont. - who cares about dumb rankings, as can have No 1 position right, but no traffic nor sales man. Where does that leave the ranking lover boys now - cos I tell ya them links are disappearing fast dude - you know the rate most websites can zap links, so fast it make your head spin guy - yeah, you know it the truth....


    Absolutely. You cannot beat quality and relevancy if you are prepared to put the work in.

    Getting quality links isn't about hard work - its about power, the sites ave it - you don't! They decide if they feel generous enough to feel sorry for you nough to let you in. You aint got nothing to bargain with for starters, unless you got a million traffic site up your sleeve... same goes for all Seo idiots - they got nothing that would interst such sites so its a non starter.
     
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    I have no idea what you're on about, but guess you must have misread what was written, as this is basic off-site content publishing / link building 101.

    Your measly content efforts really gonna knock off the No1 sites that you trying to compete keyword wars with? lol - you cant be serious man.
     
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    If those measly efforts can keep a site top 5 for a phrase like 'accounting software', that's good enough for me.

    Rankings are too unstable - all they hear though is the sales pitch from the Seo whos job it is to make the next sale, unfortunate not in the interests of the clients website :rolleyes:

    These Seos don't know how each search engine operate, so iy impossible to get any advantage from it lol. Fluctuation of search results is to do one thing - to keep everyone down and reduce stand out of sites, and force the purchase of ad space.

    Engine like Google is great when you need to know who a world champion was in 1950 - but it an old idea and boring now. as not effective for promotion for free for websites, then again ofcourse the world think that th minimum free stuff make em rich - Google only gives minimum reward for free - and it aint enough for real results.

    Just that too many cling on ti this cos they cant afford to do paid advertise - that the truth here guys - and it not false, well, just look at the forums to see them being taken advantage off - so, I used to run one so this is hows I know a lot bout this :)
     
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    Hospitality_king

    What do you think of the suggestions you have received?

    The OP has realised by now that he wont get anything for good for free for real - well not anything of huge clients acquitision, and to try to do this will be a bucket of bad news and waste of time - as link begging always will be.

    Companies want to make money from their websiyes - so natural to charge for weblinks...

    Trouble with asking, requesting free links is no websites wants to know anymore. Noone has the power to stop websites charging fees, and u want the space or advert, then got to pay, or time to tuck tail and retreat to life of very few clients and no success.
     
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    Link from popular website.

    In n utshell - thi exatly wot it is yes. Large site has ready available users - footfall....

    what is a link in its basic form? - a link is easy way with minimum effort to gain traffic. The traffic comes to u...

    I prefer Content marketing and Guest blogging for it.

    Wasted effort as you need a yon of it to kick start that - at least 2000 pages worth and you will need to maintain that level for searchers to take u serious. gues blog work will get you so deep in a links page - noonwes will ever bother searching such things for you
     
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    There is a reason people pay for links, because you need to if you want to rank in a lot of niches.

    Outsource to an SEO company and most will pay for links, or have "partnerships" or their own "networks" (PBN's basically).

    The days of getting that great link free are long gone.

    I advocate not paying for rubbish though. You can get like 50 web 2.0 blog links created cheaply, but they are usleless. I use the services of contentandlinks.com for example and they charge $29 (about £20) per web 2.0 blog, but the quality and relevance is great.

    So you will have to pay to rank in a lot of niches, but make sure you don't throw money down the drain on services through fiverr for example.
     
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    for example and they charge $29 (about £20) per web 2.0 blog, but the quality and relevance is great.

    I take stab at what this service might be:

    let see.

    spun articles
    blog comment uploads
    social entires - likely twitter huge spamming of

    and only for £20..... what else is it that will be so radilcal different than the other 40'000 all doing the same olr seo tings the world over - and I guarantee all done without the permission of the blog owners - oh yeah babay.... cosfor it to work, it need 1000's of blog entries and no seo has time to erite and request permission from each of every 1000 blog owner anyways - and to do so is crazy worklad, and quality be much bad.
     
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    who will automatically refer your link to others through their social network

    Sound like a crap network group giving another naff expert speech, over cup of tea or breakfast roll - desperate to win that next referral.

    Met some of these tpyes at a awards evening - whos sole goal was not to be interest in you - but 2 pass u over to their business chum.....
     
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    Previously (a long time ago) you could query a search engine and they would give this information. It's not like that anymore. Google give out no useful link information. So you have to use proprietary data mining tools.

    I use SEO SpyGlass - they have their own private link database , ie their own Google search index, that gets all the information you need (and more). You need to know things like are the links follow or no follow, how many links on that page, what is the 'link value' this is determined by a whole number of factors - and you cant do it on your own without software help.

    SpyGlass - does all the heavy lifting for you - separates the wheat from the chaff so to speak and then just gives you the links you need to get (that your competitors already have).

    There is a helpful video and free download here , the free version works great as it is - but is a little limited. If you use I would suggest you need to use some proxies as well (these are easilly setup within SpyGlass)
     
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    SpyGlass - does all the heavy lifting for you - separates the wheat from the chaff so to speak and then just gives you the links you need to get (that your competitors already have).

    wasre of time as all need is a excel database, a pad, pen and some basic brain power.

    My steps to link heaven.....


    1. makes ure you have a website that gets insane trafik (at least 50k in visitor)

    2. if u do not have this - forget bout getting the good links - dont waste ur time as nothing on earth
    will want to link to you without something great in return - this is fact of life.

    3 Sole trader and webmaster sites have all in one thig in common - they are freeloading cheapskates spammers - this is fact man. they all chase same sort of links and such will get same low results, pretty obvious that. Most sites are webmaster run, this is some many kids with crap blogs, wanabee biz owners playing a game to get rich, and they got no money themselves so all is left to chase cheap free worthless links.

    trouble is these stupid Seo tools will pick up and list all the garbage details of such low ranked sites, blogs etc - which get link-chased by everyone so all the same links get copied too and everyone links to the same websites cos of the desperation that is the web.

    This must see the same old link types as junk, which the search engines always rank - so the search engines too are part oif the problem -- junk links get indexed!

    4. best advice - never, ever copy others naff links, and don't use auto-tools to do this as you don't know the quality of databases out there - and u just spent $$$$ on some stupid software that tells you what your stats package can do for free.

    We used to follow link by link, and manual check each website - its the best way and now only way since all ranking trackers such as Alexa and Google toolbars fell apart and failed.

    Alexa users cant search nomore, so cant inflate the alexa ranks, their sites will die, fall from the sky and end up dead in the water.

    Outsourcing linkbuilding has now been made even tougher and as such be more expensive to get same old crap results - good! as hope the huge manual work task ahead will mean many linkbuilders expert will die off and cease to trade.
     
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    Previously (a long time ago) you could query a search engine and they would give this information. It's not like that anymore. Google give out no useful link information. So you have to use proprietary data mining tools.

    I use SEO SpyGlass - they have their own private link database , ie their own Google search index, that gets all the information you need (and more). You need to know things like are the links follow or no follow, how many links on that page, what is the 'link value' this is determined by a whole number of factors - and you cant do it on your own without software help.

    SpyGlass - does all the heavy lifting for you - separates the wheat from the chaff so to speak and then just gives you the links you need to get (that your competitors already have).

    There is a helpful video and free download here , the free version works great as it is - but is a little limited. If you use I would suggest you need to use some proxies as well (these are easily setup within SpyGlass)

    I use SEO SpyGlass too, it's a brilliant tool for seeing who links to what websites. This can help you identify link opportunities for your own website.
     
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    Lol the above poster is right you can do it with an excel spreadsheet - as long as you have 24 hours a day 7 days a week free :) and nothing else to do and even then it still wont give the information you need that spyglass gives you to sort out the good from the bad.
     
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