Football

[Ozzy]

It's good to see some of the English fans doing our country proud ahead of the final.
When I see videos in the news now, I'm wondering if it was really the UK that voted for Brexit or if the EU desired us out of it.

 

[Opinion87]

We're absolute animals, I feel embarrassed and ashamed way, way more often than I should. When I see stuff like this it reinforces my decision to spend most of my time in another country.

 

[Ozzy]

It just makes no sense. We should be happy and celebrating, so why trash the place? I just cannot fathom it.

 

[Opinion87]

You know you're in England when you see a video of a bloke being held up in a handstand with a lit flare stuffed in his ********.

 

[Ozzy]

At what point in the thought process did that make sense.

heh Baz, you know what will top this day off?
What’s that Daz?
If I do a handstand would you do me a solid and put a firework up my back passage?
Baz you’re such a ledge, that’s banging’!!

 

[Opinion87]

At what point in the thought process did that make sense.

heh Baz, you know what will top this day off?
What’s that Daz?
If I do a handstand would you do me a solid and put a firework up my back passage?
Baz you’re such a ledge, that’s banging’!!

Then there are the guys getting cheered on as they put shit up their noses, the people trashing Leicester Square, the hundred odd people that rushed the gates...

 

[Ozzy]

It’s a complete s**t show. Interesting to see the VIP seats have social distancing but the peasants don’t. If we’re lucky natural selection will take out the anal firework fetishised fans, we definitely don’t want them breeding or the human race will be over

 

[cjd]

I'm watching a recording of yesterday's international cricket. England played Pakistan. The English team was a total new set of players because three of the 1st team got COVID, plus four of the management. They still won the series 2:0. Wasn't even on the news.

It's 1:0 at half time. Apparently.

 

[Ozzy]

I’m a rugby and superbikes fan, and never experienced this kind of yobbery in those. However my wife is a fan of watching England whenever they play football, and happy wife makes happy life

You’re right though. Also, did you know Richard Branson just successfully flew in space with his Virgin Galactic commercial aircraft today! Again, overshadowed.

 

[japancool]

The last time the country sank to this level of hysteria was September 1st, 1939.

Some of our members probably remember that.

 

[Ozzy]

The last time the country sank to this level of hysteria was September 1st, 1939.
Some of our members probably remember that.

Indeed @The Byre will be along to tell us the tales once he’s found his pipe and slippers

 

[AllUpHere]

Glad to see there are a few members on here who have better things to do than watch football.

Also find it slightly amusing that @Ozzy gets censored by his own swear filter.

 

[Opinion87]

It’s a complete s**t show. Interesting to see the VIP seats have social distancing but the peasants don’t. If we’re lucky natural selection will take out the anal firework fetishised fans, we definitely don’t want them breeding or the human race will be over

Uhuh, it's all a bit farcical.

Indeed @The Byre will be along to tell us the tales once he’s found his pipe and slippers

By far the best, most interesting and most insightful member of this forum.

 

[Opinion87]

Glad to see there are a few members on here who have better things to do than watch football.

What better things have you done this evening, out of interest?

 

[Ozzy]

I wouldn’t want to be in London this evening…

 

[cjd]

Oops

 

[MBE2017]

Not excusing the behaviour shown, but fans with no tickets at major events have often stormed the gates and got in for free. Suprised more Police were not around.

Seems England’s luck run out, they lacked the character to take a few chances, subs used way too late, decided to defend in the second half instead of finish the Italians off. Kudos to Italy, another great comeback, some fantastic passing, the took control and won in the end.

 

[Alyson Dyer]

Regarding rugby vs soccer and violence: quite a few years ago now, when Twickenham or Cardiff was being revamped, the Wales/England 6 Nations match was held in Wembley.
My husband was lucky enough to get a ticket and he said the stewards were gobsmacked by the lack of bad feeling and violence amongst the crowd and that they could turn and face the pitch rather than than watch the spectators.. The stewards were used to the animalistic behaviour of soccer fans

 

[Lucan Unlordly]

Whilst football is often seen as the catalyst for bad behaviour the word FAN should be very loosely applied.

Seems England’s luck run out, they lacked the character to take a few chances, subs used way too late, decided to defend in the second half instead of finish the Italians off.

I wouldn't say lacked character. Southgate has been condemned by some for doing things his way but by working to instructions we got to the finals. The problem with instructions is that flair and opportunity can be stifled. Were it a business the shareholders would be pleased with the overall outcome. It's not, we aren't and many folk are left somewhat wanting.

 

[Ian J]

Regarding rugby vs soccer and violence: quite a few years ago now, when Twickenham or Cardiff was being revamped, the Wales/England 6 Nations match was held in Wembley.
My husband was lucky enough to get a ticket and he said the stewards were gobsmacked by the lack of bad feeling and violence amongst the crowd and that they could turn and face the pitch rather than than watch the spectators.. The stewards were used to the animalistic behaviour of soccer fans

It's actually any sport vs football not just rugby. I was at an Ashes match a few years ago and a couple of Australians handed me their camera and asked me to take a photo of the pair of them

 

[Ozzy]

It's actually any sport vs football not just rugby. I was at an Ashes match a few years ago and a couple of Australians handed me their camera and asked me to take a photo of the pair of them

How much did you get for it on eBay?

It’s true though. I cannot think of any other sport off the top of my head that brings with it such behaviour with such regular consistency.

 

[Gordon - Commercial Finance]

A couple of the lenders I work with emailed on Friday saying their offices would open late this morning. So even though it didn't come home, I can't get any work done until 10am

 

[intheTRADE]

It’s true though. I cannot think of any other sport off the top of my head that brings with it such behaviour with such regular consistency.

Boxing is the only other sport I can think of. Every major event has crowd trouble and I can't think of a local amateur event I have been to where there hasn't been some sort of trouble outside of the ring

 

[cjd]

Oh dear….

 

[Ozzy]

Ah I wouldn't know as boxing is another sport that doesn't capture my interest. I've been invited to the F1 this weekend, I did say I have no idea who the teams are or anything about it other than the cars go broom broom really quick - but I think I was the bottom of the barrel as they said still come along anyway.
Hoping there isn't any violence there either!

 

[SEODEV#338055]

Well done England on reaching a first major final for 55 years

The majority including the players conducted themselves admirably

Looking forward to Qatar 2022

Onwards and updwards!

 

[intheTRADE]

Ah I wouldn't know as boxing is another sport that doesn't capture my interest. I've been invited to the F1 this weekend, I did say I have no idea who the teams are or anything about it other than the cars go broom broom really quick - but I think I was the bottom of the barrel as they said still come along anyway.
Hoping there isn't any violence there either!

I'll take your place if you don't want to go...

 

[Paul Kelly ICHYB]

You’re right though. Also, did you know Richard Branson just successfully flew in space with his Virgin Galactic commercial aircraft today! Again, overshadowed.

I wonder whet news the Government buried yesterday?

 

[Paul Norman]

The racist abuse that broke out after the game needs addressing more robustly. Yes, it may be a minority. But it is a blight on society, and it is a significant issue.

And it starts at a low level. The silence in the face of it is dangerously near to complicity.

For the record, I am not English.

 

[Ozzy]

Absolutely, I long for the day social media companies remove the ability to be anonymous. Would be a great first step, just cowardliness keyboard low life's.

 

[Paul Norman]

Absolutely, I long for the day social media companies remove the ability to be anonymous. Would be a great first step, just cowardliness keyboard low life's.

The social media companies are currently very slow to act, even on reported instances of racism, even at the more blatant end of the language scale.

 

[Clodbuster]

I was listening to TalkSport on the way to work and the presenter was saying how the fans showed great passion and the breakin and unruly crowds were simply a manifestation of their creditable passion for the game.

 

[Paul Norman]

I was listening to TalkSport on the way to work and the presenter was saying how the fans showed great passion and the breakin and unruly crowds were simply a manifestation of their creditable passion for the game.

I would retort that their lawless behaviour is simply a manifestation of their lawlessness, and the law should exact of them a precise consequence.

I am passionate about things. But I have yet to smash the place up as a way to demonstrate that.

 

[Ozzy]

showed great passion and the breakin and unruly crowds were simply a manifestation of their creditable passion for the game.

Have to wonder what planet some of these media/reports are on;
So far I've seen stories of women getting sexually harassed by drunken supporters and feeling scared and threatened, Leicester Square completely trashed again, cars being damaged, and of course the fights and violence. It's all good though because it's just creditable passion for the game.

 

[Mark T Jones]

Have to wonder what planet some of these media/reports are on;
So far I've seen stories of women getting sexually harassed by drunken supporters and feeling scared and threatened, Leicester Square completely trashed again, cars being damaged, and of course the fights and violence. It's all good though because it's just creditable passion for the game.

A friend of mine - former publican who used to show all sport, has this view.

Football fans don't drink much, but cause loads of trouble.

Rugby fans drink a lot, are rowdy but don't often cause trouble.

Cricket fans drink loads and never cause trouble.

I was surprised by the drink bit, but he is adamant that in relative terms, football fans don't drink loads.

 

[gpietersz]

Football fans don't drink much, but cause loads of trouble.

Rugby fans drink a lot, are rowdy but don't often cause trouble.

Cricket fans drink loads and never cause trouble.

Maybe the people who cause trouble do so because they are intent on doing so, and end up doing ti before they drink a lot. People do not go to watch cricket looking for a fight.

 

[Ozzy]

Rugby fans drink a lot, are rowdy but don't often cause trouble.

I like to watch Northampton Saints (Rugby) and before our ground was extended we had to hold the premiership matches at MK Dons stadium. The stadium was built for football and didn't have drinking facilities, so picture the first couple of rugby premiership matches there.
The bars were overrun, so much so that the staff just stepped back and let the fans serve themselves with "honesty boxes" on the bars! It worked, and I suspect they took more money from the rugby fans just dropping notes onto the bar and rushing to get back to the second half than fuzz with change.

By the third game the venue had caught up, and had pop-up bars all over the place so you didn't end up missing half the game queuing for half time drinks.

What I also love about rugby, is the players join you in the bar after a game and enjoy a drink and are pure gentlemen.

 

[Mark T Jones]

Maybe the people who cause trouble do so because they are intent on doing so, and end up doing ti before they drink a lot. People do not go to watch cricket looking for a fight.

Yes; I think the sub-text here is that drink is an excuse for loutish behaviour, not its cause.

 

[Mark T Jones]

I like to watch Northampton Saints (Rugby) and before our ground was extended we had to hold the premiership matches at MK Dons stadium. The stadium was built for football and didn't have drinking facilities, so picture the first couple of rugby premiership matches there.
The bars were overrun, so much so that the staff just stepped back and let the fans serve themselves with "honesty boxes" on the bars! It worked, and I suspect they took more money from the rugby fans just dropping notes onto the bar and rushing to get back to the second half than fuzz with change.

By the third game the venue had caught up, and had pop-up bars all over the place so you didn't end up missing half the game queuing for half time drinks.

What I also love about rugby, is the players join you in the bar after a game and enjoy a drink and are pure gentlemen.

For me, rugby is the perfect spectator sport.

 

[japancool]

Back in the day, Headingley (I'm referring to the cricket ground, not the adjacent rugby stadium) had a problem with rowdy spectators but nowadays, it's much less of a problem.