Flyer drops- how much do you pay?

diviachi

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We currently have about 4000 flyers which we want delivering to houses in the local area. We have some delivery boys lined up (the sons of a friend, so hopefully reliable!) but have no clue what would be a fair price to pay for their labour. They're 15, so no minimum wage applies.

Has anyone else had flyers delivered and what did you pay? Was it by kids, adults or a professional comany? And does anyone have an idea how many flyers we can expect them to deliver per hour, on average?
 

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We currently have about 4000 flyers which we want delivering to houses in the local area. We have some delivery boys lined up (the sons of a friend, so hopefully reliable!) but have no clue what would be a fair price to pay for their labour. They're 15, so no minimum wage applies.

Has anyone else had flyers delivered and what did you pay? Was it by kids, adults or a professional comany? And does anyone have an idea how many flyers we can expect them to deliver per hour, on average?

Hi,
I run a leaflet distribution business so I could answer some of your questions.

On average, 1 person can post around 180 leaflets per hour depending on location.

We charge £30 per thousand leaflets, I pay staff £40 per thousand which takes around 7 hours (they are adults)

Thanks
 
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Hi,
I run a leaflet distribution business so I could answer some of your questions.

On average, 1 person can post around 180 leaflets per hour depending on location.

We charge £30 per thousand leaflets, I pay staff £40 per thousand which takes around 7 hours (they are adults)

Thanks

Charging £30 per thousand, and paying staff £40 per thousand, does not sound like a good business model to me :|
 
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Daxo

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But if they are self employed then minimum wage doesn't apply (yes I know some people who think they are self employed would be classed as employed by HMRC and don't realise they are just being exploited by the leaflet distribution firm). Only the most desperate people would work for less than NMW I'm sure but many consider we are in desperate times.

In any case some distribution companies do pay minimum wage. Also at 180 leaflets per hour the round would take less than 6 hours for 1000 flyers.
 
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Daxo

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Will they be unsupervised whilst delivering? How will you be sure they have delivered all the leaflets? Will they provide a report in respect of the streets and homes delivered to? Will they advise of the properties they couldn't deliver to?

At 15 years old I wonder how long it will be before they get bored, distracted and tired and start to compromise the quality of work, i.e they start to put 3 leaflets through every letterbox or start missing houses which have long drives etc.

If your leaflets are really important to you then whilst I'm sure your friend's sons are lovely, why are you trusting them to deliver your carefully designed marketing material? Is it a question of cost?

Please do not take my post the wrong way, I certainly do not mean it negatively in any way. I note you have posted in another thread about the success you have had thus far with leafleting, but in that scenario I don't believe you used 15 year olds to deliver them.

I suppose what I am saying is you have seen how leaflet marketing can increase enquiries/sales and now want to further engage in it, why therefore compromise any aspect of the process?


We currently have about 4000 flyers which we want delivering to houses in the local area. We have some delivery boys lined up (the sons of a friend, so hopefully reliable!) but have no clue what would be a fair price to pay for their labour. They're 15, so no minimum wage applies.

Has anyone else had flyers delivered and what did you pay? Was it by kids, adults or a professional comany? And does anyone have an idea how many flyers we can expect them to deliver per hour, on average?
 
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There is absolutely no point talking about averages. Posting to terraces in the city you may average one every 20 seconds, but if you are delivering out in the sticks it will be nothing like that. Where I live you would need to walk 1 mile to deliver to about 6 houses.

Op, what line of business are you in? What are the leaflets advertising?
 
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In my experience its those who run leaflet distribution businesses who know least about efficient and effective leaflet distribution. :rolleyes:

My advice on the matter, as always, is do it yourself and do it right.

Base the design of your leaflet on sound marketing principles, don't let a print company or graphic designer actually design it without telling them exactly what you want, and deliver every last one yourself.
 
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diviachi

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If your leaflets are really important to you then whilst I'm sure your friend's sons are lovely, why are you trusting them to deliver your carefully designed marketing material? Is it a question of cost?

No offence taken, Daxo! Simply put, although they are 15 they're the most reliable option we've found. They're quite the entrepreneurial kids and have a good track record of seeing jobs through from start to finish and not cutting corners. They're also after summer jobs with us, so they're keen to make a good impression. Despite that, we'll be calling random customers that we know well along the route to ask if they've received a flyer. The boys know this, so they're unlikely to dump the lot in a bin. We have specific streets that we want to deliver to and we'll expect them to report back on which they've covered. We're also weighing up buying trackers, if this is going to be a regular marketing method for us.

In contrast, we called several professional companies in our area to compare costs. They were either vastly overpriced for solus distribution, didn't get back to us, couldn't promise to deliver to the specific streets that we wanted, had out of date household data or flat out told us a pack of lies. Frankly, the level of professionalism was worse than that of the 15 year olds. I got the impression that going the 'professional' route meant a greater risk of having the flyers delivered to the wrong types of properties or the whole lot chucked off a cliff.

And in response to Stretchy, we're electricians in a town with a wide population mix. We want to advertise our services towards the 35+ home improvers and the affluent retirees but avoid drops to streets with a high rental demographic, since the residents don't do property improvements or pay the repair bills themselves.

We were thinking of paying £150 to the 15 year olds for 4000 flyers. Based on the 120 flyers per hour that we've heard from several sources, this works out to about £4.50 per hour. The streets that we're focusing on are likely to have driveways, so I don't think the average per hour will be much higher than that. Does that sound like a fair price or would people expect to pay more/less to kids of that age?
 
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Leaflet companies need to be very very careful with the self employed thing. If you employ somebody on a self employed basis they are exactly that, the best you can say is

delivery 4000 leaflets in x location before such a date.

If you say work between these hours they become an employee and such you are responsible for the minimum wage, NI, tax, insurance etc etc.
 
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Daxo

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I understand your rationale.

It's amusing that the 15 year olds were more professional than many of the companies you contacted.

Out of interest, what were the prices quoted for solus distribution that you considered vastly overpriced? (you can PM me if for whatever reason you do not wish to mention it here)

Thanks

No offence taken, Daxo! Simply put, although they are 15 they're the most reliable option we've found. They're quite the entrepreneurial kids and have a good track record of seeing jobs through from start to finish and not cutting corners. They're also after summer jobs with us, so they're keen to make a good impression. Despite that, we'll be calling random customers that we know well along the route to ask if they've received a flyer. The boys know this, so they're unlikely to dump the lot in a bin. We have specific streets that we want to deliver to and we'll expect them to report back on which they've covered. We're also weighing up buying trackers, if this is going to be a regular marketing method for us.

In contrast, we called several professional companies in our area to compare costs. They were either vastly overpriced for solus distribution, didn't get back to us, couldn't promise to deliver to the specific streets that we wanted, had out of date household data or flat out told us a pack of lies. Frankly, the level of professionalism was worse than that of the 15 year olds. I got the impression that going the 'professional' route meant a greater risk of having the flyers delivered to the wrong types of properties or the whole lot chucked off a cliff.

And in response to Stretchy, we're electricians in a town with a wide population mix. We want to advertise our services towards the 35+ home improvers and the affluent retirees but avoid drops to streets with a high rental demographic, since the residents don't do property improvements or pay the repair bills themselves.

We were thinking of paying £150 to the 15 year olds for 4000 flyers. Based on the 120 flyers per hour that we've heard from several sources, this works out to about £4.50 per hour. The streets that we're focusing on are likely to have driveways, so I don't think the average per hour will be much higher than that. Does that sound like a fair price or would people expect to pay more/less to kids of that age?
 
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Daxo

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It's not as simple as that in any way.

Leaflet companies need to be very very careful with the self employed thing. If you employ somebody on a self employed basis they are exactly that, the best you can say is

delivery 4000 leaflets in x location before such a date.

If you say work between these hours they become an employee and such you are responsible for the minimum wage, NI, tax, insurance etc etc.
 
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Daxo

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Again, it is not in any way as simple as that.

As I have mentioned earlier in this thread, there are indeed companies (not just leaflet firms) who use the 'self employed' status aspect as a way of avoiding certain taxes/responsibilities and as a way to exploit their staff. However the examples you have cited would not in and of themselves mean an individual was actually employed rather than self employed.


But if you're telling people to turn up to work at say 9:00am and then they all go in a minibus they are employed not self employed. Inland Revenue know making people self employed is just a way of getting round tax rules and come hard on it.
 
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That depends on the business type. In the case of the business in question it is much better to do it himself.

He will get a much better response from 500 done right, than from thousands done on the cheap.

Sorry and Im not down-playing delivering leaflets here as I have pounded the streets myself and it is a long, tedious thing to do that takes stamina and will power (in MO) - especially after one dog sunk its teeth into my hand - BUT...

...how hard is it not to do it right?
 
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daud

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i believe solus or not solus is a rip off between the pricing. Whats to top the next folk from delivering is leaflets after you?

I would only use leafleting for delivering 1000s. If it was just 000's id do it myself and save some pennies.

Plus most leafleting companies will normally deliver in the 1000s otherwise it wouldnt be worth their while as.

Plus to charge £30-40 a thousand is cheap. If it was me doing a leafleting business i would charge in the region of £55+ per thousand to ensure everything is done properly and get the quality of staff needed i believe You pay peanuts you get monkeys.. If you have the right staff and you can build the trust with your client ( which i think is the biggest downfall in this business) then your onto a winner.
 
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i believe solus or not solus is a rip off between the pricing. Whats to top the next folk from delivering is leaflets after you?
Not sure what you mean by that?

I would only use leafleting for delivering 1000s. If it was just 000's id do it myself and save some pennies.

Agreed.

Plus most leafleting companies will normally deliver in the 1000s otherwise it wouldnt be worth their while as.

We deliver 1000 as a minimum

Plus to charge £30-40 a thousand is cheap. If it was me doing a leafleting business i would charge in the region of £55+ per thousand to ensure everything is done properly and get the quality of staff needed i believe You pay peanuts you get monkeys.. If you have the right staff and you can build the trust with your client ( which i think is the biggest downfall in this business) then your onto a winner

If its solus then £30 is cheap and you probably wont get the leaflets delivered correctly. We charge £50 for Solus for that very reason, plus we use trackers to ensure the client knows the delivery has been completed as paid for
 
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i believe solus or not solus is a rip off between the pricing. Whats to top the next folk from delivering is leaflets after you?
Not sure what you mean by that?

What he may mean, and he is correct, is that there isn't really such a thing as SOLUS

Homeowner goes to work in the morning and comes home to find 8 flyers on the door mat.

Maybe each was individually put through the letterbox or maybe they were all put through together.

As far as the homeowner is concerned there are 8 flyers on the floor.

Flyer companies have not got a clue what went through the door 2 mins earlier or 2 minutes later.

All they know is that there will be 3 less (if their grouping is in 4 for example)

Dan
 
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daud

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What he may mean, and he is correct, is that there isn't really such a thing as SOLUS

Homeowner goes to work in the morning and comes home to find 8 flyers on the door mat.

Maybe each was individually put through the letterbox or maybe they were all put through together.

As far as the homeowner is concerned there are 8 flyers on the floor.

Flyer companies have not got a clue what went through the door 2 mins earlier or 2 minutes later.

All they know is that there will be 3 less (if their grouping is in 4 for example)

Dan

Hey Dan thanks for clearing that up that is exactly what I meant.
 
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daud

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Whatever quote you get make sure you have a way of tracking where the leaflets were dropped off. No point paying a penny if they don't get dropped where you want them.

In this leafleting industry I don't think you can ever prove which house was delivered to and which was missed out, because one it is to time consuming. the best you can do is either follow them in your car or do it yourself.

Like I said in a earlier post that this is a industry where it is solely based on trust between you and the clients. Like with anything it can take months and years to build but one lazy day or one mess up to give them doubt can make you lose all that hard work in matter minutes

I really believe that if you really dont trust them or anyone to distribute your leaflets then yo best do it yourself or find other means of direct marketing.
 
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In this leafleting industry I don't think you can ever prove which house was delivered to and which was missed out, because one it is to time consuming. the best you can do is either follow them in your car or do it yourself.

Like I said in a earlier post that this is a industry where it is solely based on trust between you and the clients. Like with anything it can take months and years to build but one lazy day or one mess up to give them doubt can make you lose all that hard work in matter minutes

I really believe that if you really dont trust them or anyone to distribute your leaflets then yo best do it yourself or find other means of direct marketing.

Not entirely correct. If you use GPS that plots at 2 second intervals it will give you an accurate walk route. The distributor can't really fake it as they would have to walk the route to get the plot.
 
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I am a 15 year old grammar school boy. I started my own leaflet distribution company when I was 14. We have expanded since and now delivery around 10000 leaflets weekly. I employ 3 adults and pay them £30 per thousand households and they are all reliable and we use gps trackers to monitor deliveries. The area here are generally big posh houses with few areas of semi detached. We charge our clients £40 per thousand leaflets and we are a thriving business, people are willing to pay for this type of high service.
 
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In my experience its those who run leaflet distribution businesses who know least about efficient and effective leaflet distribution. :rolleyes:

My advice on the matter, as always, is do it yourself and do it right.

Base the design of your leaflet on sound marketing principles, don't let a print company or graphic designer actually design it without telling them exactly what you want, and deliver every last one yourself.

Agreed and really you don't want your message 'diluted' because your flyer has been dropped with 3 others at the same time! I think people getting that many flyers would just think 'bin' straight away.
 
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In my experience its those who run leaflet distribution businesses who know least about efficient and effective leaflet distribution. :rolleyes:

My advice on the matter, as always, is do it yourself and do it right.

Base the design of your leaflet on sound marketing principles, don't let a print company or graphic designer actually design it without telling them exactly what you want, and deliver every last one yourself.

I disagree with this.
Part of being a business owner is knowing when to delegate/outsource and when to be hands on.
Delivering flyers in far away areas is not worth it for me, it can be outsourced for cheap and as long as I trust the company doing it and they don't do anything that damages my reputation, I would rather pay someone £60 so my day is free for my FT job and 2 businesses.



I'm also quite curious about how effective leaflets are. I spoke to someone who runs a similar business and he says it's hit and miss, but sometimes he gets calls out of the blue a couple of years after doing a leaflet drop in an area.
I chuck most of mine but give them a look from the letterbox to the bin and keep hold of the few that stand out
 
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I had a look into the 10,000 leaflets by royal mail for £500. Seems pretty expensive but I will use it to test the idea. Has anyone actually used a good leafleting service before? and would anyone care to share their experience with it? Depending on whether your a new or existing business I think for a new business it's great idea to distribute them yourself - obviously the down side is it time doing this.
 
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