FireFox Adblock Threatens downfall of Internet Commerce

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  1. Phil_Rees

    Phil_Rees UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    BAN ADBLOCK

    FireFox Adblock threatens downfall of Internet Commerce

    Ad block plus on firefox now has in excess of 50 million users and gaining 750,000 a week.

    This software blocks 99% of all adverts we place on our sites as webmasters to pay for our costs and provide us a living and adverts that help keep the FREE services on the internet FREE.

    Whilst I encourage the freedom of choice for people, I consider this software to be criminal in that it is threatening the income of many honest business person everywhere and our lively hoods are in jepordy.

    To put simply this software is like walking into a shop, ripping all the adverts out of a magazine, reading the articles and then walking out of the shop without paying for the magazine.

    Its an infringment of every freedom of speech act out there.

    Now I have found a solution whilst browsing the internet that i hope will work for you as well and a solution that will still allow the freedom of choice for those who dont want adverts on their screens.

    www dot block-adblock-plus dot com/help dot html

    (Sorry for the dot URL, but this is to important to wait for 15 posts)

    I also URGE and ask you all to petition google, firefox and all other major suppliers to BAN websites that promote ADBLOCK.

    If google wants evidence of it effecting them - ALL GOOGLE AD URLS have been added to Adblocks subscriptions.

    ITS TIME TO FIGHT BACK PEOPLE - BLOCK PEOPLE USING ADBLOCK FROM YOUR SITE
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Phil_Rees Member since: Jun 5, 2009
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  2. Phil_Rees

    Phil_Rees UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Oh and just to point out to everyone

    It is also blocking ads you are PAYING FOR.

    So not only is it damaging general internet commerce, it is prevent YOU from advertising your companies.
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Phil_Rees Member since: Jun 5, 2009
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  3. Kev Jaques

    Kev Jaques UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Good luck with that!
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Kev Jaques Member since: Feb 19, 2009
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  4. Phil_Rees

    Phil_Rees UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Lets look at the severity of the problem

    50 Million users so far, and around 750,000 new users per week.

    That an additional (provided the install rate doesnt increase) of 39 million users per year if we add to that organic growth, that figure could become 200 to 300 million users per year.

    How long before ALL and I mean ALL revenue produced on your sites is reduced to zero, or all your advertising on the internet stops generating new leads.

    The long reaching aspect of this, is worse - every single free of charge website out there, free gaming sites (that your grandchildren may enjoy), forums, discussion boards, advisory services, charitys and other good will serivce will cease to exist.

    Why - because they have no way other than generous benefactors to fund them.
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Phil_Rees Member since: Jun 5, 2009
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  5. Phil_Rees

    Phil_Rees UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    :) just to point out to the owners of UKBF - Its even blocking the adverts on this very forum
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Phil_Rees Member since: Jun 5, 2009
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  6. mobyme

    mobyme UKBF Ace Free Member

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    Cutting your nose off to spite your face.....................now that's going to be popular!
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: mobyme Member since: Jan 12, 2004
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  7. Phil_Rees

    Phil_Rees UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Well the only other option, is to charge people to use content that would normally be free.

    Question as well - how many of you have paid for advertising on this site - because at present, with AD Block, i cant see them.
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Phil_Rees Member since: Jun 5, 2009
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  8. Phil_Rees

    Phil_Rees UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Yep by using adblock your be cutting your nose of to spite your face because as more and more webmasters block people who are using it from visiting there sites they are going to miss out on alot of what would be excellent content provided by free services.

    Take for example this forum - if it realied PURELY on advert revenue and they blocked people using adblock - whose loss is that.

    UKBF, or the viewers loss from having access to a great free of charge resource?

    Something else to consider

    How many of Joe Public average to low IT skilled users would even know how to use the filters and make an informed choice as is suggested by the Adblock software.

    What the providers of AD block have actually done is produced a world wide freedom of speech censoring programme that THEY dictate who and what can be seen.

    THAT IS NOT CHOICE.
     
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    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Phil_Rees Member since: Jun 5, 2009
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  9. Raphael33

    Raphael33 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Just make your page so it wont display if it detects a blocker and posts a message saying

    Sorry we cannot display a partial page, please remove your ad blocker.

    There must be some code for this?
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Raphael33 Member since: Aug 13, 2009
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  10. Chris H

    Chris H UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Same could be said of tv advertising and the propensity of the viewers to shuffle off for a cup of tea during the adverts.

    Damn those lovable chimps!

    And tv remote controls, whoever invented those is going to have to take the blame when the tv companies fold because someone didn't look at the ads.

    And what about the ability to tune into another station on the radio? These manufacturers really don't care about commerce. Swines the lot of them!

    I think you'll find that those people who install scripts like adblock are going to be the last people to click on your ads anyway. No loss.
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Chris H Member since: Oct 12, 2006
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  11. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    Maybe it will cause the downfall of all those poorly built sites with questionable content that rely on adverts to make a buck.

    Maybe it will result in better quality sites offering decent products and services that rely on ecommerce to survive rather than advertising revenue.

    This has got nothing to do with freedom of speech and everything to do with my choice as to how I configure my browser (including blocking scripts and flash).
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  12. KM-Tiger

    KM-Tiger UKBF Legend Full Member - Verified Business

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    Can you actually justify those statements? What law do I break by using Adblock? (Which I do, and NoScript).
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: KM-Tiger Member since: Aug 10, 2003
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  13. Tin

    Tin Just an SEO Staff Member

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    Sorry, I don't buy this one at all. Adblock isn't automatically blocking all ads, I just add a filter to the ads I don't want to see. It leaves everything else alone.
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Tin Member since: Nov 14, 2005
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  14. Burdett

    Burdett UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    How is this stopping people from having freedom of speech? Just because you say something doesn't mean I have to listen - does that mean I am breaching your right to free speech? NO!

    Free speech laws are for governments only. They are not allowed to stop you from saying certain things. Adblock just seems the equivalent of me putting my fingers in my ears and saying "lalalala" so I can't hear what your saying. It's not a crime and isn't stopping you from saying what you want to say.

    This is the simplest the arguments can get about this topic. If anyone else can dumb it down even more they can get a cookie.
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Burdett Member since: Feb 14, 2009
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  15. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM UKBF Enthusiast Free Member

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    You've lost me on this one.

    Some examples...

    Some people who receive your direct mail may throw it in the bin
    Some people who receive your emails may treat it as spam
    Some people who receive your telesales calls may hang up or block them
    Some people who read your blogs may not visit your website
    Some people who visit the UKBF site may not read your posting

    These people are exercising choice in what they read or view online, and the way they respond to marketing offers.
     
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    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: GeorgeM Member since: Oct 4, 2007
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  16. DotNetWebs

    DotNetWebs UKBF Legend Full Member

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    lol - what a coincidence- as I was reading this I got a pop-up to tell me a new version of ad block plus available! :eek:

    Ads don't generally bother me but the the reason I have it installed on THIS machine is that makes the screen scroll quicker on certain sites. I am using a vanilla Ubuntu/Firefox installation and I don't think the video driver is taking full advantage of the Hardware Acceleration of the graphics card I have installed.

    Regards

    Dotty
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: DotNetWebs Member since: Feb 16, 2005
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  17. sellickbhoy

    sellickbhoy UKBF Ace Free Member

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    wasn't TIVO taken to court in the states because the system didn't record the adverts - so people were simply recording everything on TIVO and watching it when it suited them without the pesky ads
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: sellickbhoy Member since: Jun 5, 2009
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  18. DotNetWebs

    DotNetWebs UKBF Legend Full Member

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    Exactly. We had Sky+ since it's launch but have now switched to a Freesat PVR with the same functionality.

    We haven't watched a TV ad for years!

    Regards

    Dotty
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: DotNetWebs Member since: Feb 16, 2005
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  19. Phil_Rees

    Phil_Rees UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Definition of Censorship -- Censorship is the suppression of speech or deletion of communicative material which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or inconvenient to the government or media organizations as determined by a censor.

    The Censor in this case being the developers of ADBLOCK - the user of the software is not the censor as they have not developed the ADBLOCK.

    The User has choice already without adblock - they dont have to visit the site in the first place. Exactly the same as when you go to a high street retailer you decide wether to purchase your soccer mums magazines or childrens DVD's instead of Porn for your children.

    When a user visits a FREE site using ADBlock, they are effectivly stealing. When you watch TV or Listen to RADIO for FREE, the services given to you are paid for by advertising and sponsors. If you want to watch a film on TV without watching adverts - BUY or HIRE the DVD.

    ADBlock users are no less than pirate video and pirate music users.
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Phil_Rees Member since: Jun 5, 2009
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  20. Phil_Rees

    Phil_Rees UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    You know whats next - instead of "BURN THE BOOKS" - lets BURN THE INTERNET
     
    Posted: Aug 13, 2009 By: Phil_Rees Member since: Jun 5, 2009
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