Feedback sought on SEO firms

[mids_biz_guy]

Good day

We are currently in the process of deciding on a SEO company to work with to promote our loft conversion business

Has anyone got any comments etc on the following

Tickety Boo Media

Red Sauce

Monkey Fish Marketing

I appreciate any feedback

Kind regards and thank you in advance

All the best

Mike

 

[BobbyBoy]

Hi Mike

I can't comment on any of the firms mentioned, but if you'd like details of an effective and reasonably priced SEO company who ACTUALLY consistently delivered for us and has got us to position 1 in Google for the top performing keywords in our niche- then drop me a PM and I'd be happy to introduce you.

Best of luck

Bobby

 

[ADifferentNinja]

None of those look like anything special.

You really should be looking at companies who can rank for the competitive keywords for which they are offering services in, otherwise what can they do for you except take your money from you? Nothing.

Their own on and off-site SEO is nothing short of disappointing so I would look elsewhere if I were you.

 

[fisicx]

Disagree with ninja, I'd choose a marketing company who have a good track record in promoting their client's businesses. SEO is only part of the package. No point in ranking #1 if nobody buys anything.

 

[Mystro]

Disagree with ninja, I'd choose a marketing company who have a good track record in promoting their client's businesses. SEO is only part of the package. No point in ranking #1 if nobody buys anything.

I personally would agree with Ninja

Could not find any of those company's on the first few pages and i would say if they cannot do it for their own site what makes you think they can do it for you

Most will say we concentrate on our clients so don't have time for our own site blah blah bullcrap

No if the OP was asking about a marketing company i would agree with Fisicx

but for Seo Keep looking i say ....

 

[fisicx]

...if they cannot do it for their own site what makes you think they can do it for you

Because the really good ones get most of their business from referrals and marketing. Why spend half your day doing SEO to rank for 'SEO' when you could spend that time making money.

 

[Mystro]

Because the really good ones get most of their business from referrals and marketing. Why spend half your day doing SEO to rank for 'SEO' when you could spend that time making money.

Then the op would not be asking here if they were any good as he would already know they are as they were referred by some one who says so ....

I do agree there are plenty of people that are fantastic at SEO who dont have time to do their own sites, however the sites mention have the basic's missing but funny enough have time to keep the site updated with content ....

Paul

 

[fisicx]

This is my take on the list:

Tickety Boo Media - PPC specialists.
Red Sauce - SEO for local results only
Monkey Fish Marketing - Not SEO, looks more like PPC.

So the answer is: none of them

 

[alphanumeric]

try http://www.deeho.co.uk/

 

[I, Brian]

We are currently in the process of deciding on a SEO company to work with to promote our loft conversion business

With nearly a hundred posts, surely there are a couple of SEO's on the forums who have impressed you with their industry knowledge?

In which case, why not start a conversation with them, rather than risk unknown companies?

You really should be looking at companies who can rank for the competitive keywords for which they are offering services in, otherwise what can they do for you except take your money from you? Nothing.

There's a nasty tendency for sales-based companies focused only on taking your money to chase SEO keywords.

Reputable SEO companies usually put their resources into promoting clients, and don't need to advertise because they already get too many referrals.

 

[directmarketingadvice]

Good day

We are currently in the process of deciding on a SEO company to work with to promote our loft conversion business

Has anyone got any comments etc on the following

Tickety Boo Media

If they can't supply a single testimonial or case study, why should you trust them?

Red Sauce

Monkey Fish Marketing

These two have testimonials/clients sections. You can look at their clients and see if the clients rank well for the terms they've been "SEO"d for.

If they don't, then would you assume that, if you use them, you'd rank well?

Steve

 

[GreatSEO]

Some of the companies that rank for competitive key terms actually take peoples money and don't do much for it.

In fact as people have said most SEO's will get business from recommendations and referrals.

Make sure you vet any company that you want to work with. Call their existing clients and see how they have impacted bottom line. Also how long it took them.

Is there a contract and if so why? etc etc

Dave

 

[Andy Miller]

I would not be concerned about its ranking, go for one that has similar company in your industry on its books that is doing well on the serps, you can who they use sometimes via backlinks

 

I would not be concerned about its ranking, go for one that has similar company in your industry on its books that is doing well on the serps, you can who they use sometimes via backlinks

So the SEO company would have 2 clients in the same industry.

So which one do they make No1?

Earl

 

[RickieSee]

Almost certainly 95% of the "companies" you find will be one guy sat at his desk at home, with an average site made in Wordpress (I would expect any SEO expert to be able to code themselves) offering to do you miracles.

On another note, do a bit of research into what SEO actually is. This will give you a bit of leverage. Furthemore, your best bet is to ring their clients. A majority of their clients. Not just the one they will recommend as they're probably in business together.

 

[RickieSee]

Ignore my last post.

Wouldn't the best way to be feedback?

Or do a Google search? The results in your Google search will speak for themselves!

 

[Just_a_bloke]

Hi Mike

I can't comment on any of the firms mentioned, but if you'd like details of an effective and reasonably priced SEO company who ACTUALLY consistently delivered for us and has got us to position 1 in Google for the top performing keywords in our niche- then drop me a PM and I'd be happy to introduce you.

Best of luck

Bobby

Due to the rules here on not contacting members by pm, may I ask if I can get in touch with you please?

Thanks

 

[BobbyBoy]

Hi Mike - you may send me a PM

 

[mids_biz_guy]

Due to the rules here on not contacting members by pm, may I ask if I can get in touch with you please?

Thanks

by all means

mike

 

[mobyme]

(I would expect any SEO expert to be able to code themselves)

Very few SEO's would be able to build a quality CMS even if they could code; it's an entirely different discipline. Wordpress is excellent for SEO and in the hands of an SEO who understands php it can become an absolute Ferrari.

 

[ukperson1]

In my view the most important thing is to take into account not only the ranking within search results, but also demand, competition as well as how to best convert visits into sales.

 

[chrisbuckley]

ukperson1 is right. Since I came back to the UK in the last few months and took a look at the local "digital marketing" industry, I'm a little shocked at how most companies are obsessed with "SEO"/rankings and often delivering using quite dodgy linking methods.

But even if you assume the SEO is all done properly and above board, why the obsession with it? SEO is one half of the equation.

Sales = Traffic X Conversion.

If you double your traffic then you double your sales. But what if your site is awful and barely converting at all? Throwing lots of money and traffic at it won't solve your bigger problem of dire conversion.

Conversion is just as important as traffic and in many ways it is easier to do something about it.

Even if you do that, we are still looking at a very narrow part of your overall marketing effort. Digital marketing firms may claim to increase your ROI by increasing your rankings via SEO but many don't care about anything except giving you short term quantifiable gains.

SEO is not a real investment in your business. It's an ongoing thing, like PPC. Google sees link velocity so if you decide one day to end your contract then you can expect to slowly slide down Google again because the link building has dried up.

What about other forms of traffic? In 5 years time we may not even have the search engines of today. Google is clamping down on unnatural linking methods. Google is using social proof more and more in its algorithms. What about gaining traffic via other methods such as social media? What about building a real online reputation, a community that respects you, what about making a name for yourself and become more than just a ranking? Video, featuring in the press/TV and other methods are all important.

There are plenty of tales of companies relying too much on Google and falling in the rankings for no discernable reason when Google updates. They have pretty much no redress with Google and suffer for it but, frankly, it's their own fault for not diversifying their traffic sources.

I recommend you find a consultant instead who is not concerned with just SEO/rankings but will sit down with you, listen to you, ask you what your business goals are, where you want to take the company etc., ask how your business works and then create a real solid plan to take your business forward using the tools of the online sphere.

What will an SEO firm do for you? Will he tell you how to convert better? Will he use tools such as mobile marketing, SMS marketing, email marketing, Facebook marketing etc. if they are relevant?

Most digital marketing SEO firms in my view are just in it for quick bucks with no real thought about your long term business goals. If they can tie you in for as long as possible then the better for them but I doubt they care too much about lost business as they will find new clients. Real consultants will try to keep you for 2+ years if they can and limit their client base so they can give each and every client the full attention they deserve.

 

[Prestige-SEO]

Did The OP ever make his decision.

 

[I, Brian]

But even if you assume the SEO is all done properly and above board, why the obsession with it? SEO is one half of the equation.

Sales = Traffic X Conversion.

If you double your traffic then you double your sales. But what if your site is awful and barely converting at all? Throwing lots of money and traffic at it won't solve your bigger problem of dire conversion.

Conversion is just as important as traffic and in many ways it is easier to do something about it.

SEO's are usually hired to do the SEO.

While some of us are aware of wider marketing principles, strategies, and concepts, and can advise accordingly, trying to actually achieve anything here can be an absolute nightmare.

If you're hired to bring the traffic in, and you do that, you've done your job - if other recommendations hit a blank wall, you've done your best regardless.

The larger the company, the more of an issue of making changes becomes.

 

[keano]

SEO's are usually hired to do the SEO.

While some of us are aware of wider marketing principles, strategies, and concepts, and can advise accordingly, trying to actually achieve anything here can be an absolute nightmare.

If you're hired to bring the traffic in, and you do that, you've done your job - if other recommendations hit a blank wall, you've done your best regardless.

The larger the company, the more of an issue of making changes becomes.

I suppose getting a clear brief from an seo client is key. Ultimately an seo won't want to provide additional services that they aren't going to get paid for, however, I think as part of the initial consultation its worth suggesting areas where roi for a client can be improved - it may even end up bringing in an additional spend of the client can be convinced.

 

[malcom.disouza]

I think Red Sauce is quite good.

 

[Prestige-SEO]

I think Red Sauce is quite good.

O really? I like brown better!


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