Faerie B

Doesn't mean they couldn't be changed though - does it?

Why not have an "anything goes" section, I've know a few forums that do, if people know what they are entering when they click that button then where's the harm?

I understand that it's a private forum with their own rules - no problem, doesn't mean it's perfect or un-changeable though.


Maybe because this is a business forum, and how would you then stop people posting libellous comments about people/companies, that would then get picked up by Google, and all hell would break loose.

A lot of people advertise their business and themselves via this forum, would they be happy for a (let it all rip room).

There has to be some level of cut off - surely?

There are plenty of forums (as you say) that allow that, so why not just visit them.

Pops ~xx~
 
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Maybe because this is a business forum, and how would you then stop people posting libellous comments about people/companies, that would then get picked up by Google, and all hell would break loose.

A lot of people advertise their business and themselves via this forum, would they be happy for a (let it all rip room).

There has to be some level of cut off - surely?

There are plenty of forums (as you say) that allow that, so why not just visit them.

Pops ~xx~


I'm not in agreement with the idea of an 'anything goes forum' but from a technical point of view it could be hidden from search engines quite easily. I think that time-out might already be hidden.
 
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I've been here for five years and there's a definite decline in the community activity and spirit. There used to be dozens of well-known members who participated in discussions. There would be a new post in the Time Out section literally every time you refreshed. It was very busy, but it's a far cry from how it is now.

As I said in my previous post, it's true whether it's the moderators fault or not. Whether it's moderators being too harsh, or members rebelling against the rules unnecessarily, it's those actions which have caused a decline in the core community spirit which we had a few years ago.

Just look at that A1 forum and Ray. Regardless of who was at fault, there was a bit of a breakdown and numerous popular members moved over to a new forum. Since then (again, regardless of fault) key members have been banned and others have left due to the decline in activity.

I rarely ever see forums with strict rules work, though. Members get too comfortable and become too friendly, so they struggle to accept a set of rules which keeps them in line. You used the analogy of a cafe, but to me, it's more like being in a pub with friends and being given rules on what cannot be said to them. It wouldn't work, and I think it's the fundamental flaw which causes problems in all forums where there are strict rules in place.

I'm not having a specific dig at UKBF, I just think the model as a whole is flawed and doesn't work long-term.

Well Scott, I have been here a month longer than you and posted double your post count ... yep whoopie do !! Guess that means I must have posted lots of those threads in time out then ....

Of course the forum moves with the times - you wouldnt expect it to stand still would you? The whole demographics of this place have changed - some of us have even got older - perhaps we are just a tad busier than before - perhaps we have found other things to go play with - its called development - it happens!!

As for the A1 forums - which members are no longer around since it came and went? Perhaps two I can think of who don't post on here ... yep that was a huge loss in quality ...

And no of course the model doesn't work - thats why you have been here for 5 years Scott ... I remember you posting up at age 17 about wanting to get in business - you did - and have got business from this place - yes the whole thing is just flawed!!!!!!!!!

Why this sudden urge for everyone to start thinking this place is falling to pieces just because someone who posted almost 98% of her stuff in time out is no longer around?? Oh to have the power to bring down a forum ... <cough!>

Characters come and go and this place has been around since 2003 .... so yes, its definitely not worth sticking around for ... :rolleyes:
 
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So what you are saying (if I understand you correctly) is that without FB, time out and the board will come to a sad demise.

No. You know I didn't say that. :rolleyes:

What I said was that FaerieB's ban will just contribute to the already existing problem. Heavily contributing members being banned or leaving over the last few years as played a huge role in the activity of the community growing thin.

Is what she posted (as fun as it was) of which some members considered trolling, really such an important loss, is what any of us post as an individual that vital to the boards survival - I think not, its a community.

And the community depends on individual people. For example, FaerieB was one of the few members who still posted a number of threads on here and started up off-topic discussions between members. That's now gone, and considering how thread-bare the community activity already is, it's going to leave a noticeable hole.

I just hope she wasn't banned for something which, in the real world, no one was really bothered about.

I felt DWP was incredibly funny; and yet here we ALL still are, visiting the board and posting.

The board is not about anyone member - if it was; it would not exist.

Pops ~xx~

Here we ALL are? Countless members have left this forum well before you even joined. There used to be a LOT of people who posted here regularly and got to know each other. Far more than there are now. A number of bans and a number of people leaving (whether they got bored with the lack of activity or didn't like how the forum was ran) has contributed to what was once an extremely busy forum in the community sense.

The whole Q&A element of UKBF will always remain strong, but in my opinion, the community spirit and activity will continue to decline.
 
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Well Scott, I have been here a month longer than you and posted double your post count ... yep whoopie do !! Guess that means I must have posted lots of those threads in time out then ....

:|

Of course the forum moves with the times - you wouldnt expect it to stand still would you? The whole demographics of this place have changed - some of us have even got older - perhaps we are just a tad busier than before - perhaps we have found other things to go play with - its called development - it happens!!
There's a difference between the forum shifting and the forum declining. Old faces in the community haven't been replaced, they've just vanished. This means that a forum which once had a very busy and strong community, has now dwindled to the point where it's more or less a large Q&A forum for business owners to come and go.

As for the A1 forums - which members are no longer around since it came and went? Perhaps two I can think of who don't post on here ... yep that was a huge loss in quality ...
I can think of closer to 20.

And no of course the model doesn't work - thats why you have been here for 5 years Scott ... I remember you posting up at age 17 about wanting to get in business - you did - and have got business from this place - yes the whole thing is just flawed!!!!!!!!!
Please read what I've said if you're going to comment on it with more of your sarcastic ramblings. :rolleyes:

I didn't say the model doesn't work. I said that it's flawed. It's why many forums I've been on have deteriorated in time. When a community gets too close and too friendly it's difficult to enforce rules, and it's difficult for people to accept them.

Ironically enough, the forums I use which have pretty much no rules are the most successful and continue to thrive. They get to know people and they become more informal, but there's no risk of being penalised for speaking too far out of line. I mean we all have to be honest here. If you're in a pub with friends you could have discussions or "banter" which would be deemed worthy of a strike on a forum such as this. It's just how real people act, and it's why rules conflict with members when they become too friendly.

Why this sudden urge for everyone to start thinking this place is falling to pieces just because someone who posted almost 98% of her stuff in time out is no longer around?? Oh to have the power to bring down a forum ... <cough!>
It wasn't because of FaerieB. Her banning just highlighted an issue which has been going on for years. If you're too blind to see it, then that's your problem. I really couldn't care less.
 
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BTW ... my speeds up here are so slow I didn't get my warnings and just got locked out. When I tried to get back in it said I'd been locked out until December :eek::eek::eek:

Tin was right I knew the rules and I made a choice ... The thread has quite rightly been deleted and I have promised to be a good girl from now on ;) .....




















yeh right :p:D x ... Massey I'm coming after your ass first :D x
 
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I am happy but in order to be sensible, a little more "restrained" on here!

I have so much to be happy about and count my blessings.

Love to you all and sing to the sunshine of our God.......:)

I will think of the what what song and I will be happier, now look what you have done. I have stopped singing that song and now it is in my head again. I had two days break from it and now I will be cleaning the pooh singing "What what in the.........".

If the neighours see me through the window, I will simply laugh! Still, I am happier now!:D Thank you!
 
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Absolutely no sarcasm intended. If you read the original post then you will know of my caring and sincere gladness to have you back.

Sorry Connie ... it's difficult to know who's who at the mo ... the random flea distribution and expelling martian babies is making me tired but I'm not sleeping properly again. The nut doctors say that if I do too much multi-tasking my head will fall off again :( x

BTW ... Good morning America :redface: x
 
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Sorry Connie ... it's difficult to know who's who at the mo ... the random flea distribution and expelling martian babies is making me tired but I'm not sleeping properly again. The nut doctors say that if I do too much multi-tasking my head will fall off again :( x

BTW ... Good morning America :redface: x

I am posting this openly, otherwise I may get another PM from FB telling me she thought I was one of 'them' who ever them might be.:eek:

I can assure you FB; I am not out to get you; that is so far from the truth it would be funny, if it was not so sad.

You need to step away from this board as it does not seem to be helping you, and put your time and energies into getting your business back on track, the amount of time you spend on here, I cannot see how you can be doing that.

We all know you are not well, and yes the board is therapy when having a laugh and a joke in time out, but it seems to have replaced everything else in your life, and that cannot be good for you.

Connie, myself and others are not your enemies (I cannot believe you really have any) so please (and I have said this many times on the board) you are talented and had a beautiful business, for your sake salvage it whilst you can.

Take Care.

Pops ~xx~
 
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BTW ... Hopefully now all resolved with the Florists (and the Admin of the other board) ... especially the ones who were/are members on here ;) ... I am on here to take back control of my business and my life Pops but it's a long slow process.

In the meatime, while I appear to have so many stalkers both in real life and across the net, I've had to put my blog on hold. I am still dealing with existing customers though ;) x
 
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Hi Pops ... read from post 2468 and that's only part of what's going on in my life at the mo :redface: x

http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=178418&page=247

FaerieB - with the greatest of respect, that's not ''going on'' in your life, .

It has nothing to do with your life at all.

It's internet carp on an internet forum.

It has nothing to do with real life, or, more properly, it certainly shouldnt have anything to do with real life.

You have made a very big play on many many threads about you being ill, and you have, as you can see, an enormous amount of genuine sympathy.

You do however say things on here that make little sense and seem contradictory.

For example, you posted at great length on this forum about the run up to you being ill, and how it was precipitated by you spending all your waking time watching breaking news on the tv.

You have since told us all on the forum you are in therapy and receiving treatment.

Lo and behold, a few days ago you posted up you were spending the whole day watching breaking news flicking from the BBC to SKY. :|

Are you helping or hindering yourself?

I too, cannot understand how you can spend literally from morning till night on this forum, when you say you are working hard at reclaiming your life and your business. I really dont mean that to be a personal remark, and you can rightly tell me to farf off and mind my own business - but concern is a two way street - you cant continuously post about yourself on a public forum, and not expect those who are genuinely concerned about you to post up their views and opinions also.

Ive pretty much stopped replying to a lot of your posts, because I feel if I do, Im just encouraging you to continue to post up nonesense instead of getting off the damn computer and doing something constructive. I will of course reply to the occasional interesting post, but I for one, given all the information you have shared on this forum about you and your illness and your life, do not want to be encouraging you to use this forum as an avoidance technique.

Please stop banging on about stalkers. Constantly posting this stuff up here is simply reinforcing your own thought processes and may or may not be rooted in reality. If the stalking is real, deal with it through the proper channels. But I fear you may lose peoples sympathy and understanding when you appear to never stop banging on about the ''woe is me'' while at the same time, not appearing to be doing anything useful or constructive to remedy the problem. There is such a thing as sympathy overload.

Much of what you say does not ring true to me - but Im aware you are probably and most sensibly not posting key information on a public forum that would fill in the blanks and make the story make sense. However, that's neither here nor there what I think. The only issue of importance is you continue to sort yourself out and get your thinking rightly ordered.

I really hope you do.

I look forward to the time when you only pop in and out of here with exciting updates on the business which you will have made thrive and grow, and the occasional time killer thread. Not spending all day, every day, chained to a forum and the tv.

I wish you well in your recovery.

But you have to help yourself.
 
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Thank you so much for your genuine concern too Parthe ... However, you too have no idea what went on and has been going on in my real life for the last 12 months ... things are gradually starting to unfold though ;) ... trust me ... I'm a nutcase (I meant to say doctor) :D x

BTW ... Glad you and Pops have now brought this to forum instead of pm'ing each other about me :D x
 
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