does a certified electrician have to rewire a house?

[Atilla]

sorry mate didn't quite understand that one:redface:

See Post 67

 

[shagg]

yes i'v read the post that's why i refered to someone signing someone elses work off, but didn't quite get he's meaning. never mind different area code probable. I take it, it's because he's near me?

 

[superkings]

just checked and a certain person on here is Not registered with napit or niceic so shhhhh (u know who you are )
Oh yes qualified 2377 for sure , no other (beleieve me i know)

 

[paulears]

What I don't quite understand is that when you have perhaps 4 or 5 people working on a project, one person has to sign it off - surely not every sparkie (who maybe came in for one day, never to be seen again) has to countersign? This would not be possible. So One registered person MUST sign off on work he has not personally carried out. So if the rule that one person cannot sign off another's work is carried out to the letter - how do people manage it?

 

[Atilla]

What I don't quite understand is that when you have perhaps 4 or 5 people working on a project, one person has to sign it off - surely not every sparkie (who maybe came in for one day, never to be seen again) has to countersign? This would not be possible. So One registered person MUST sign off on work he has not personally carried out. So if the rule that one person cannot sign off another's work is carried out to the letter - how do people manage it?

Fred from 'Sparks is me' installs and Bob from a registered company signs it off. Two seperate bodies/companies/entities. Not allowed.
A Team/group working together is seen as one. Hence one member can sign off has he was involved in the installation - assumption being he was aware of all stages of the install.

Akin to something like the Garage mechanics and Foreman. Oiks do the work but Foreman signs off the worksheet.

 

[paulears]

So no doubt, it gets abused by the 'professionals' then? No paper trail, nothing that would stand up in court? So "was it done correctly?" gets a "yes" - "how do you know?" - "because he did it?".

A superb system that absolutely guarantees no quality of work whatsoever as only the visible work can be tested and visually inspected. Who knows what the standard of the rest of the work actually is? Does the person have some way of looking into voids and other sealed in spaces?

So in other words, they are protecting a membership of a paid for organisation, with no way of ensuring the quality of work, but preventing people like those mentioned in this topic who are really qualified skilled people who cannot have the pip on their shoulder because they don't have membership of a certain organisation.

 

[Billmccallum]

Thought I'd add my 10p worth for the thread.

I used to run a company undertaking refurbishment work for landlords, essentially stripping out victoian houses and converting to three flats, each with new plumbing & electrics.

Our own staff would run all the wiring (essentially the first fix) and the qualified electrician would come in and make all the connections and test the systems.

Building Control was OK with this as our staff did not undertake any of the connections.

We did the same with the central heating & boilers, all piping was installed by our staff and the plumber made all the connections and fired up the system.