Copycat company stealing everything we do

grEggMcMurphin

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Hello guys,

Just joined here for a bit of advice, hopefully this is in the right place and someone can help us out

Basically we have an established company in the education sector (for this thread I'll call it X company). We are one of the main (if not the main) provider of these services and well known in our field. We're at the very top of google for most of our services and business is good.

I personally built the X company website around 2 years ago through my own personal web development company and put a link to my web dev company at the bottom of the X company website.

Around a year ago, I received an email from a young Romanian gentleman saying he was starting a company doing the same thing and had seen that I built the website for X company. He said he had (by coincidence) purchased the same website theme as was used in X company's site and had already commissioned a website to be built, but he wasn't happy with the finished article. He asked if I could redo their site to make it "look like X company or even better" obviously not realising that I am a director at X company and not just the guy who did their website.

I replied to decline their offer and advised that I am connected to the company and never received a reply. I also advised that they do not use the theme we were using as it was a difficult theme to work with.

Over the course of the next year they built a new website (with a different theme) and filled it with word-for-word information and pictures taken straight from our website. Some of the images I personally photo-shopped and edited, and now they were appearing on their site and social media pages. Even their company names and social media page titles were very similar to ours.

Fast forward a year and these guys are still ripping off our stuff regularly, but now they are at the number 2 spot on google directly below us, selling our services slightly cheaper than us.

Recently we uploaded a picture of one of our staff members gaining an award and low and behold, the picture of our staff member is now appearing on their site (albeit really small so you can't make him out but it's the same image). I just checked their terms and conditions, and literally word for word they have copied our entire 11 pages of legal document and put it on their site with our name changed to theirs.

This has gone beyond 'imitation being the highest form of flattery' and a bit of a joke. These guys basically gained accreditation to offer services off the back of our hard work. (we often get 'suspect' inquiries asking very specific questions about our delivery methods, documents, processes etc and they must be fishing for information posing as genuine customers).

We spent many many hours putting these documents together and writing articles, editing images and these guys have come along and leapfrogged their way to the top simply by copying our material and hiring the staff members with the appropriate qualifications who can pull it round for them. We put all our stuff together from scratch and tweaked and tailored it over many years (almost ten years on work), and these guys have copied it all within a year.

They even have the audacity to put "copyright - all rights reserved 2017' on their documents and their website! We of course have the same thing on ours.

I was thinking of contacting them but I'm not entirely sure what to say, I was hoping someone here might give me some advice or advise if there is something we can do that financially realistic for a small business to undertake.

I still have their email to me asking me to essentially clone our website for them, but are we wasting our time perusing this?

My main concern is that they offer everything that we do and more, so at the moment we are top of google and well known, it won't be long before these guys have overtaken us and people are confusing our company name with theirs (if they aren't doing that already).

Any help or advice would be fantastic
 
Contact their web host and show them what has been going on. Insinuate action if it isn't resolved.

If they are reputable, they should suspend the site for copyright infringement.

Even though it's the other company that has copied your work, the web host is legally responsible, to a point, for what is being hosted on their servers.

You can also submit a removal request to Google for copyright infringement at https://support.google.com/legal/troubleshooter/1114905
 
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Thanks for the reply guys, Chapman - I just checked and strangely (not) they are using the same host we are using (godaddy) so I will contact them.

The Byre - they are in the UK too around 150 miles away. Both our services are mainly delivered online, and we both also do so-site work nationwide.
 
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Sorry - didn't see this mentioned above.

Submit a copyright infringement to google
https://support.google.com/legal/troubleshooter/1114905

I have done this in the past and within a week or so the offending page was entirely removed from search results. They do ask for supporting information and it can easily be verified at their end if someone is blatantly copying.

This doesn't mean the offending site will go away though so you need to do everything you can and all at once including contacting direct and their hosting company.
 
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they are in the UK too around 150 miles away.
In which case, you can sue them for all kinds of good things, starting by sending them a fat invoice for use of your copyrighted images and texts. They will not pay and then you can start litigating against them.

Then there is a possible case of 'passing off'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing_off

So basically, the time has come to see a lawyer and crush them like a bug!
 
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I would go down the legal route and gain all the information and proof required before alerting them by having pages removed etc. My aim would be to make sure they don't get back up and running easily by just inserting alternate images and text. As the Byre says, working out what costs and damages you can have made responsible for and keep throwing that at them even if they come back with an altered website design.
 
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Yes, I agree. It's time to see a solicitor and send them a large invoice.

It's infuriating though. The same thing happened to me with a competitor copying my site word for word. They did take it down when asked. I am happy to report that they are now out of business. The people who can only copy and are not creative with their own ideas do not last long.
 
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The people who can only copy and are not creative with their own ideas do not last long.

Sadly this isn't the case since there are many examples of people becoming rich by knicking other people's idea. Not naming names but you've heard of most of them.

I'm not sure what is more annoying though, someone copying word for word (which is easy to spot and eventually deal with) or those who change something just enough for it to be classed as original?
 
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Sadly this isn't the case since there are many examples of people becoming rich by knicking other people's idea. Not naming names but you've heard of most of them.

I didn't mean the theft of ideas generally. I meant those who are only capable of copying word for word....
 
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