Clean energy startup idea from Finland

[IslandMode]

Yes I know, I also know how many commercial properties there are in the UK, and how many are close to rivers.

I also know the Environment Agency exists and that even if you have a decent energy usage and a river on your property you cant just start using it to generate power.

Any truly viable sites have already been developed, some many many years ago.

Yes, like I described each location needs to be assessed individually. We don't search for the good locations. The customer who owns property gives us a location and then we assess that location for what is best and optimal for that particular location. We present different options depending on the need and budget and discuss the strengths and weaknesses of each option, because the more expensive option is usually stronger with longer lifespan, but the customer might anyway want the cheaper option. So we help the customer to make the choices and then arrange the installation.

 

[fisicx]

@IslandMode - this is not bullying, it’s just a question of understanding.

Here in the UK we don’t have such a thing as a professional CEO.

All we have is a bunch of CEOs running businesses (not just companies). Their profession is often unrelated to their board position.

 

[IslandMode]

@IslandMode - this is not bullying, it’s just a question of understanding.

Here in the UK we don’t have such a thing as a professional CEO.

All we have is a bunch of CEOs running businesses (not just companies). Their profession is often unrelated to their board position.

Ok, well it's called many things in different languages. You're clearly not one if you don't know what I'm talking about. The title is also "the founder". "The entrepreneur." The founder of the company is the entrepreneur and CEO of the company. It's not really a profession. It's a social class of the employers.

 

[Shopclicks]

Yes, like I described each location needs to be assessed individually. We don't search for the good locations. The customer who owns property gives us a location and then we assess that location for what is best and optimal for that particular location. We present different options depending on the need and budget and discuss the strengths and weaknesses of each option, because the more expensive option is usually stronger with longer lifespan, but the customer might anyway want the cheaper option. So we help the customer to make the choices and then arrange the installation.

You should probably stop using past & present tense in your pitch or literature. You haven't done any of the above.

 

[Gecko001]

Ok, nice to meet you sir, but there was clearly little bit of "let's bully the new guy and see what he's made of" wibe going on yesterday. I don't mind that. I can defend myself and bully back and laugh at you. I don't get sad or depressed because I get even. My time might however be more valuable than someone else's time. Peoples time do have different value depending on their skills. I'm fluent in three languages and am a professional CEO. CEO's tend to generally make more money than janitors, so I don't really understand where your argument that "each peoples time is equally valuable" comes from. Sounds like communism to me. I'm from East-Europe and I'm very much against communism.

For the purposes of this forum, we must assume that everybody member's time is of equal value. Members post on a voluntary basis, meaning they do not get paid for it, except perhaps for the owner of the forum as far as I know. Both rich and poor people, CEO's and employees in non-communist countries regularly volunteer their time to people.

 

[IslandMode]

You should probably stop using past & present tense in your pitch or literature. You haven't done any of the above.

You should stop harassing your worthless embarrassing clown. Get a life.

 

[IslandMode]

You should probably stop using past & present tense in your pitch or literature. You haven't done any of the above.

You're totally worthless garbage and you are only disturbing. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[IslandMode]

For the purposes of this forum, we must assume that everybody member's time is of equal value. Members post on a voluntary basis, meaning they do not get paid for it, except perhaps for the owner of the forum as far as I know. Both rich and poor people in non-communist countries regularly volunteer their time to people.

No we should never assume anything like that because that's untrue and false. I don't separate realities like that. Telecommunications is not a separate reality where you can just prank call people as much as you want as a totally worthless clown wasting other peoples time and pretend that it never happened in reality because it happened over the telephone. This is real life too and it matters as much as face to face reality. I don't follow other peoples purposes. I follow my own purpose which bestowed upon me through God. I have a religion and I'm not going to conform to other religions or ideologies and you have no right to force me to conform to your whatever purpose.

 

[Shopclicks]

Your language would lead people to think you have experience in this field.

 

[IslandMode]

Your language would lead people to think you have experience in this field.

Yes, that's called marketing. It's an other aspect of business. Like what kind of idiot would make people think you don't know anything? What's the point of that?

 

[Shopclicks]

Yes, that's called marketing. It's an other aspect of business. Like what kind of idiot would make people think you don't know anything? What's the point of that?

That's not marketing.

You would be far better off getting some experience by working for one of the UK energy providers who are involved in microgrids. Get the experience and then go out on your own.

 

[IslandMode]

That's not marketing.

You would be far better off getting some experience by working for one of the UK energy providers who are involved in microgrids. Get the experience and then go out on your own.

Yap yap worthless clownboy. You are absolutely nothing and you have no experience and no skill at all. You can also become anything you want if you set your mind to it. Stop trying tackle other people and focus on your own skill and own doing. Acquire a skill and get a life.

 

[Scalloway]

Hydro works best when you have got a big source and a long drop. Things like Hoover Dam in USA.

We have a few locations that would work, mainly in Scotland/Wales/Lake District.

Flooding these valleys would be a good idea from a water storage and power generation POV, but is not very popular with the locals.

In Scotland the biggest problem is rich landowners. They'd rather shoot grouse in the glens with their rich pals than let the common people have renewable energy.

Orkney has led the way in developing small scale renewables. The islands are self sufficient and now export electricity to the UK mainland.

Indeed, over 100 per cent of the islands’ electricity needs could now be regularly met from local renewable sources, with one in ten Orcadians generating their own power – well above the national average.

Renewables | Orkney.com

Orkney has long embraced the concept of renewable energy and with over 100 per cent of the islands’ electricity needs now regularly met from local renewable sources, we are proud to be leading the global renewable energy charge.

www.orkney.com

 

[NickGrogan]

More projects in development, but location and interconnection will remain a problem.

Yes, that's called marketing. It's an other aspect of business. Like what kind of idiot would make people think you don't know anything? What's the point of that?

Actually, no that's not marketing.

Saying that you have done things that you haven't for customers that dont exist is fraud - up to 10 years in jail or if you're lucky we can look at Business Protection Regulations (BPRs) 2008, which covers misrepresentation on websites and social media. Unlimited fines for you and your company and up to 2 years in jail.

So yes, using the correct language is important.

 

[NickGrogan]

I know nothing? Except I have contributed more facts to these posts than you, by a significant margin. You claim to be an expert, but every statement you've made about energy is wrong.

Communist? Who is the one promoting energy for all and escaping the big bad energy companies - sounds more like a communist than any one else's posts.

Easy to insult from an anonymous profile isn't...

 

[IslandMode]

I know nothing? Except I have contributed more facts to these posts than you, by a significant margin. You claim to be an expert, but every statement you've made about energy is wrong.

Communist? Who is the one promoting energy for all and escaping the big bad energy companies - sounds more like a communist than any one else's posts.

Easy to insult from an anonymous profile isn't...

Yeah, that's actually anti-communist you total idiot. You probably prefer state monopolized nuclear power like a Chinese communist. You have contributed absolutely nothing but worthless garbage and waste of my time with your totally idiotic comments. My statements are not wrong. You're just a vile and stupid communist who doesn't understand anything and you deliberately just harassing my perfectly upright effort. What are you going to do if i insult you in your face communist chimpanzee boy?

 

[NickGrogan]

Still hiding?

China's power system is far better than the UK, so yes I would certainly prefer it.

If you think China is a communist country, we can add that to the list of things you got wrong.

 

[IslandMode]

Still hiding?

China's power system is far better than the UK, so yes I would certainly prefer it.

If you think China is a communist country, we can add that to the list of things you got wrong.

Yeah, see it's because it's centrally planned and communist. You admire its capacity and efficiency because you're a communist, but unfortunately we here in the free western world have a totally different strategy. We do not centrally plan our economy and manufacturing of goods. Our market is based on free market economy where demand and supply determine what is manufactured in free and open competition between private actors.

 

[Scalloway]

More projects in development, but location and interconnection will remain a problem.

Indeed. Orkney went the route of small scale renewables which means there is a small surplus for export. SSE built a 103 generator wind farm on Shetland that frequently stands idle as there isn't capacity further south to transmit its production.

 

[Scalloway]

Our market is based on free market economy where demand and supply determine what is manufactured in free and open competition between private actors.

Energy in the UK is regulated by a government body, OFGEM.

 

[IslandMode]

Indeed. Orkney went the route of small scale renewables which means there is a small surplus for export. SSE built a 103 generator wind farm on Shetland that frequently stands idle as there isn't capacity further south to transmit its production.

Yes, the wind is super volatile. In order to stabilize the output people should invest in battery storage systems that store the electricity when the output is high and sell it when the output is low. This is the energy arbitrage opportunity that volatile energy resources present. There's a deliberate reason why the electricity price is allowed to go negative. This is also how a microgrid works. You have stable back up for the volatile resources which stabilizes the output. This is automated and orchestrated with a microgrid controller.

 

[IslandMode]

Energy in the UK is regulated by a government body, OFGEM.

Sure, everything is regulated but it's usually regulated against free market violations. Such as mislabeling your product. Like a jar of marmalade needs to disclose to the consumer exactly what the jar contains. This is the sort of "regulatory tyranny" that Brexiteers oppose about EU.

 

[NickGrogan]

Sure, everything is regulated but it's usually regulated against free market violations. Such as mislabeling your product. Like a jar of marmalade needs to disclose to the consumer exactly what the jar contains. This is the sort of "regulatory tyranny" that Brexiteers oppose about EU.

Nope, the uk energy distribution and transmission markets is essentially a set of geographic monopolies, where prices are set by the Government.

So you don't even know what communist is? Perhaps stop using words you dont understand.

 

[MikeJ]

Stop feeding the troll.

 

[cjd]

It's a tailored bundle of renewable energy resource options, which are orchestrated in a stand alone micro scale grid. You can use it for energy self-reliance or energy arbitrage by selling electricity to the main grid, or simply both. It's an actual thing. You can look it up. The wider public isn't just aware that it's possible, but there is an economic boom right around renewable now with the energy crisis together with the AI boom. A stable and reliable microgrid requires professional planning for each individual need, so I design microgrids.

You design microgrids. You see a potential market here in the UK and you're here to "find some business partner and associates from the UK". Fair enough.

But are you really looking for funding for your start-up?

 

[IslandMode]

Nope, the uk energy distribution and transmission markets is essentially a set of geographic monopolies, where prices are set by the Government.

So you don't even know what communist is? Perhaps stop using words you dont understand.

It's not an actual monopoly. It's called a natural monopoly because it was assumed that nobody would compete with the main grid, but see a microgrid liberates a person or organization from this grid monopoly. It's a private small grid. With a microgrid you can deliver electricity to households and compete with the main grid.

 

[IslandMode]

Stop feeding the troll.

Stop being a useless piece of garbage.

 

[fisicx]

Closing thread now it has resorted to insults.

 

[Newchodge]

Yeah, that's actually anti-communist you total idiot. You probably prefer state monopolized nuclear power like a Chinese communist. You have contributed absolutely nothing but worthless garbage and waste of my time with your totally idiotic comments. My statements are not wrong. You're just a vile and stupid communist who doesn't understand anything and you deliberately just harassing my perfectly upright effort. What are you going to do if i insult you in your face communist chimpanzee boy?

If you haven't the intelligence to participate in reasoned debate you would be better off saying nothing rather than advertising your stupidity like this.