Choosing an ecommerce solution

The best ecommerce platform is the one that does most of the things you want, and offers the the easiest (and reliable) way to do it. Choice also matters at what stage the business is at, current sales volume and expected growth.

I personally prefer woocommerce for wordpress for most of the work we do, some of the reason is knowing how it works and how to do big things quickly (imports, updating in bulk etc). Some people wont like woocommerce, for some it wont do the job required, but for most webshops it will do the job more than just fine, and there are plenty of addons to get the functionality required.

I have found other ecommece systems like magento, prestashop, opencart to be not very user freindly and fall down on many aspects of theme customisation, also the addons seem to be rather expensive so if you need customisation the cost goes up considerably.
 
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When I started I went with Actinic (now sellerdeck) and one of the attractions was I could buy the programming, build my own site and the only ongoing costs was the hosting fee. This meant if I didn't sell a thing it would still only cost me a pittance (£100 a year from memory).
That was a long time ago but if I ever thought of switching are there still platforms that allow you to do that or are they monthly payment only?

I remember actinic from years ago! I I think they hit the nail on the head by having a PC based system to update the shop, made it simple for people to get started.

I think Wordpress/woocommerce is probably the best value (bang for buk) option as you only need to pay for webhosting, you can even get third party software that will run on your PC so you can manage the shop (in some ways) alot easier than the web interface (you can do this for other cart systems too). But value for money wise you cant go wrong with woocommerce.
 
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You can go open source with things like wordpress / woocommerce and Magento where all you need is the hosting fee which of course can vary greatly. Wordpress sites can get away with cheaper hosting (typically) whereas Magento is a much more advanced platform but really benefits (in terms of page load speed etc) from a fairly decent server and host with magento expertise.
 
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I got into Actinic because I saw a CD stuck to one of the PC magazines of the day offering a free trial of a maximum of 20 products!
Those were the days when Actinic was actively looking for growth, now for anybody who knows them they have priced themselves out the market for newcomers.
 
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Custom solutions are for a very small number of clinet from our experience. Unless you have very large sum of money it generally doesn't make sense.

One more thing we are asking our clients to consider is what are their plans with the business in long-term. If they plan to keep it, sell it, grow it or keep stable. That too should go into consideration when choosing the right solution.
 
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Dear Sir/Madam,
My name is Elisa Falkenrath and I’m a Business Administration student at Berlin Humboldt University.
I'm doing a research about 'UK e-commerce market'. I'd like to ask you a few questions about your experiences. It will only take 2 minutes, and your answers will help me to create statistical data.

Your company name and information will be kept confidential.

1)What is your Product Category?
2)Where do you sell your products? (Amazon, eBay, Etsy etc.)
3)About how many product do you sell per day?
4)While performing your business what kind of problems do you encounter? (Inventory Management, Shipping Management, Multi-channel Management, Advertising, Price Tracking etc.)
5)How do you follow your products and sales (employees or e-commerce solution software/s)
6)According to your experiences, what kind of improvement do you need in terms of increasing your sales?(optinal)

I would be grateful if you could help me.
I appreciate your time and thank you for the support.

Best Regards,

Elisa Falkenrath
Humboldt University
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Dear Sir/Madam,
My name is Elisa Falkenrath and I’m a Business Administration student at Berlin Humboldt University.
I'm doing a research about 'UK e-commerce market'. I'd like to ask you a few questions about your experiences. It will only take 2 minutes, and your answers will help me to create statistical data.

Your company name and information will be kept confidential.

1)What is your Product Category?
2)Where do you sell your products? (Amazon, eBay, Etsy etc.)
3)About how many product do you sell per day?
4)While performing your business what kind of problems do you encounter? (Inventory Management, Shipping Management, Multi-channel Management, Advertising, Price Tracking etc.)
5)How do you follow your products and sales (employees or e-commerce solution software/s)
6)According to your experiences, what kind of improvement do you need in terms of increasing your sales?(optinal)

I would be grateful if you could help me.
I appreciate your time and thank you for the support.

Best Regards,

Elisa Falkenrath
Humboldt University
Berlin

Set up a Google Form and then share the link to it in a new post / other UK eCommerce forums with a brief explanation of your study/research.

Hardly anyone will respond in the way you're asking like this...
 
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Custom solutions are for a very small number of clinet from our experience. Unless you have very large sum of money it generally doesn't make sense.

That is why the web garbage continue to develop. Can you specify the value of "large sum of money"?

One more thing we are asking our clients to consider is what are their plans with the business in long-term. If they plan to keep it, sell it, grow it or keep stable. That too should go into consideration when choosing the right solution.

Long term business is NOT compatible with open source e-commerce solutions. I've seen this happen for a long time, sometimes ending in business failure.
 
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I have entered a variety of markets with ecommerce websites, what I would advise is if you are looking for an almost immediate start and a cost effective solution then shopify is a great product to get you going, starts at around £20.00 per month and has merchant facilities built in so its a good way to start and start quick.

Once built up I would look at switching to Magento where you can have an all bells and whistles website.
 
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The best ecommerce platform is the one that does most of the things you want, and offers the the easiest (and reliable) way to do it. Choice also matters at what stage the business is at, current sales volume and expected growth.

I personally prefer woocommerce for wordpress for most of the work we do, some of the reason is knowing how it works and how to do big things quickly (imports, updating in bulk etc). Some people wont like woocommerce, for some it wont do the job required, but for most webshops it will do the job more than just fine, and there are plenty of addons to get the functionality required.

I have found other ecommece systems like magento, prestashop, opencart to be not very user freindly and fall down on many aspects of theme customisation, also the addons seem to be rather expensive so if you need customisation the cost goes up considerably.


I work with woocommerce and prestashop mainly. These two can't even be compared.
I understand you opinion is based on the fact that you don't have enough knowledge to manage/modify more complex solutions like prestashop for example.
Presta is very easy to use and fairly easy to modify if you are a developer.
It is not possible to have software which is very easy to use and modify and at the same time packed with functionalities.
The main reason people choose wocommerce is because they don't have budget for better solution.
 
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Of course that Presta Shop works like a charm compared with OSC.
Presta Shop has his own limitation, cache problems, code problems and sometimes is generating admin issues even you just want to edit or delete some marketing campaign.

Anyway, OSC is something that I never ever work with.
 
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webmto

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The things of WooCommerce is some kind of story of beginners. At the fist begin they are happy with anything they understand but they don't think of the visitors need. Of an commerce website need to be for visitors that buy the products and not for the owner.

That's why lot of website does not make sales and is nothing that another point in the space of internet.
 
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That's why lot of website does not make sales and is nothing that another point in the space of internet.
A lot of website do make sales. Your post is incorrect.
 
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webmto

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My post is correct, perhaps and adagio will make it 100% true.

If a manufacturer of unique products decide to make an WP-WooC to sell his own products, of course that the web site will make sales.

Perhaps a better way to say it is that WooCommerce is a possible solutions if the products are unique.

But when you need to compete with other, it is definitely not the best way.
 
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That's not what you said. Your post suggested websites do not make sales because they use woocommerce. That is incorrect. The platform used to build the site is not the reason sites fail to make sales.

The USP for your product appears to be speed. User testing shows that speed is not a major contributing factor to the success of a site.
 
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I was just saying that if your head hurts, you can take 10 pills that cost 1£ and you may not pass, or you can take a pill that cost 4£ and get you through.
But the £1 pill may be just as good as the £4 pill.

Woocommerce works for millions of online stores so to dismiss it as a viable product is misleading.
 
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The 1£ pill is just 1£ pill you have to trust this.

Anyway, bases on E-commerce Platforms Comparative Study Based on Alexa1Million Top Sites, the WooCommerce is just 23,000 website.


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But that is for 2014.


For 2016 we have:




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that show us that the WooCommerce and Shopify is the second and third option.
Note that WooCommerce is over 25%



Let's see what happen in 2017.



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WooCommerce is the first position with 18% (180,000 website).

Is not for me to comment people decision when they decided to create an website.
What I do is to judge the solution from technical and security issue.

Q. Is the WooCommerce the first one?
A. It is.

Q. Is the WooCommerce the best one?
A. It doesn't matter.

Q. Is the WooCommerce the best affordable e-commerce solutions?
A. It is.

Q. Is the WooCommerce safe one?
A. It doesn't matter

Q. Is the WooCommerce optimised for mobile traffic ?
A. It doesn't matter

In the END.

I am equal to what platforms decide users to use. When making statements about platforms or solutions, I'm speaking in the future interest of site owners, even they sometimes seem the opposite.

As a specialist, I can not omit the scientific truth even if it is easy or hard to accept. Acceptance itself is not my job. If I have to answer I answer on the basis of the tens of thousands of tests done and the experience of over 20 years.

As long as the client pays, my job is to make sure that the customer's solution is as good as possible.

#end
 
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I am equal to what platforms decide users to use.
So why did you suggest Woocommerce is the reason many websites fail to make sales?
 
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In my opinion Woocommerce is very often a choice for people with small budget, unrealistic expactations and who are not very serious about the business.
It is free and easy to set up so it will always attract this type of people.

In terms of charts presented above I got few issues with them.
- they don't specify how big/successful are users using particular soulutions
- they compare proper, complex, e-commerce solutions with hosted services and blog platforms with e-commerce plugins added to them
 
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In my opinion Woocommerce is very often a choice for people with small budget, unrealistic expactations and who are not very serious about the business.
It is free and easy to set up so it will always attract this type of people.

In terms of charts presented above I got few issues with them.
- they don't specify how big/successful are users using particular soulutions
- they compare proper, complex, e-commerce solutions with hosted services and blog platforms with e-commerce plugins added to them

We recently did some great customized e-commerce sollutions based on WooCommerce, when using few plugins you can do "almost" anything. I wrote this arcticle about it: my username .xyz/menu/3827/#text (I cannot post URL yet...)
 
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    Finally test your website solution (trial or demo basis) before signing up, testing will tell you if the solution is the right fit for you.

    We have a demo of OpenCart here: https://www.antropy.co.uk/opencart-demo/

    And we're often asked to setup and host demos for people so they can experiment with their own products which we do very cheaply.
     
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    We get a lot of questions on the forums asking for the best ecommerce solution, and why members to tend to promote their favourite, I thought I would I would write up a post on the options available to you...

    What are the types of ecommerce solutions


    There are 3 main types of ecommerce solutions available, Hosted, Open source / pre-built and Custom, all offer their own advantages over each other, and below is my run down of these.

    Hosted Solution:

    A hosted solution is where a company run the website for you, you have a part of their website for your needs and they take the hassle away the technical expertise on running an ecommerce store.

    It's primarily aimed at new ecommerce stores, pricing ranges from free to £100 a month, you get a customer support line to speak to someone (this might be an extra add on) and some form of ticketing / forum system where you can get support from the company or other users of the software.

    The biggest players in the market are EKM Powershop, Big Cartel, Shopify, Bigcommerce and Magento Go. All vary in pricing and features.

    The main advantage of this option is the lack of technical expertise needed, you are just left to run the website (adding products etc) while they do all the bits you just don't want to do.

    You're limited to what you can do to your store though, you will be able to change how the store looks but adding new features is normally a big no.

    Pre-built Software

    A Pre-built solution is an off the shelf system which has already been built and you can either buy a license (paid) or use it for free (open source). The paid software normally comes with some form of customer support and the free versions normally have some form of forum for users to help one another.

    This type of solution is primarily aimed at the developer market, allowing website developers to offer a low cost solution to website owners to get an ecommerce store, the choice of which software to use will depend on the developers preferences.

    The software normally needs a understanding of development to do customisations although there are websites which sell themes and plugins for most of the common carts.

    Paid Software options include Cubecart and CS Cart, open source software there is Opencart, Prestashop and Magento

    The main advantage of these options is you get the source code, and you can literally do anything with the site, you want to build new features, go ahead but you will either need to be technical minded or have someone who can do it for you as you will need to install and set yp the site, and do the general maintenance.

    Custom

    This is where you go if you have a totally unique idea that no system will currently do, it might be a new way to do a certain function or to link it to other software you use in the business (fulfilment etc). You're in the land of the big bucks and this is primarily aimed at growing businesses which just need something more than what other systems offer.

    Costings can range from a few thousand into the millions, depending on your idea and who you get to build it.

    Conclusion

    There is no right or wrong answer in which type of system to go for, all have their advantages and disadvantages and every websites needs are unique, no website will ever be the same as another.

    So how do you decide which one to use? Research, look at the options they all offer, work out how much you could afford to spend on the solution and work out which one fits into your website projections (no point getting option #1 if you grow out of it in 3 months etc).

    Finally test your website solution (trial or demo basis) before signing up, testing will tell you if the solution is the right fit for you.


    Interesting post. I would like to add that when choosing open source cart options, you need to choose good (i.e, fast) hosting if you are going to run eccomerce software such as Magento.

    Google likes fast loading sites, and it helps with site ranking,
    Magento can be slow on cheap hosting packages.
     
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    I think it depends on the clients point of view. If they want an e-commerce website you've got to go through the process of choosing the CMS (content management system) such as some of them mentioned at the top of the thread.

    Others are looking for a quick alternative solution where they don't need a website designer/developer so they are choosing options such as shopify to quickly get them up and running, but in the long run its going to cost you just as much as if you had a designer/devloper.

    In my opinion if you've got a budget get it done professional and customised to your business get it done by a designer who also knows a bit about SEO for helping to add proper tags/titles/meta description to help your website rank higher.

    ...It also goes further and starts going more into SEO if you want your website to start ranking higher but that's a whole new thread.
     
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