Chat GPT

[amyjones]

Why Everyone's Obsessed With ChatGPT? Anyone here used it for your website??

 

[MBE2017]

Not used it on my website yet, been playing around with it for the last week or two, been impressed with it so far. The more defined your questions the better it responds, can be a bit repetitive on long answers atm, but it will improve at a frightening pace.

 

[amyjones]

Is that paid or free application?

 

[MBE2017]

Is that paid or free application?

Free, just watched a video on YouTube where a guy used a mixture of Midjourney to build AI images, then chatGPT to write the whole website and code it, a very good looking website in 45 -90 minutes.

Anyone who thinks this will not effect many professions is mad. Imagine being able to be say a graphic designer, talk to a client and have the AI generate several ideas in 5 minutes whilst you chat to then.

I would recommend everyone look at this, anything from chat bots etc can be done via AI, and I am no expert.

 

[amyjones]

Free, just watched a video on YouTube where a guy used a mixture of Midjourney to build AI images, then chatGPT to write the whole website and code it, a very good looking website in 45 -90 minutes.

Anyone who thinks this will not effect many professions is mad. Imagine being able to be say a graphic designer, talk to a client and have the AI generate several ideas in 5 minutes whilst you chat to then.

I would recommend everyone look at this, anything from chat bots etc can be done via AI, and I am no expert.

Thats interesting

 

[fisicx]

However….

It’s not very good at doing code so I’m safe for a while.

 

[Deleted member 325090]

However….

It’s not very good at doing code so I’m safe for a while.

I haven't looked at it yet, but I have seen a few brief demos.

What I have seen has on the surface been quite impressive, generating what looks like reasonably well structured "working" code with comments.

However in one demo there were bugs, not in terms of crashes or obvious errors, but logic errors in the code that meant the program didn't give the correct results. These are often the kind of errors that would go unnoticed unless someone was looking very closely. Edge cases and the like.

Be interesting to see how it changes various industries, and what new industries pop up as a result.

 

[NickGrogan]

However….

It’s not very good at doing code so I’m safe for a while.

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AlphaCode looks interesting too.

 

[fisicx]

None of them are very good. And there are all sorts of copyright complaints as the AI uses existing scripts (from GitHub) without acknowledgement.

I suspect things will improve but right now a lot of AI generated content isn’t that good. Consider if the energy industry all used AI for writing about pricing, because they could all use the same generator you will end up with very similar content.

A business I write technical manuals for have tried using an AI tool. It’s useless. It doesn’t even understand SI units. And because the manual has to explain the software settings using screenshots the AI just gives up.

 

[DanH]

I'm looking at it to do my kids homework.

 

[HostXNow]

It is not perfect, but impressive. It will certainly improve.

 

[UKSBD]

Great blog post and examples of AI use here

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Frightening what is coming, we thought copyright issues around images etc. was a mess, this AI stuff is more wild west than wild west ever was.

 

[fisicx]

Problem is many believe churning out content will help ranking. If won’t. Google has been telling people this for yonks. All AI is going to do is increase then amount of junk so that all the content will just be ignored by Google.

 

[UKSBD]

The churning out, re-writing content is just a small part of it

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[fisicx]

The churning out, re-writing content is just a small part of it

Agreed, but that’s what most people are using it for.

Saw one promo today where it’s used to respond to reviews. There is also a business that is selling AI generated reviews. All of which makes the whole thing pointless.

 

[Mark T Jones]

I know little about AI. However my opinion is 'next big things', was formed from a chance encounter with the sales director of Vodafone some time ago.

1985 to be precise. Vodafone was a small company in the centre of Newbury. The job of their sales director included selling the concept of car phones to motor dealers.

He confidently told me - 'within a decade, all senior executives will have a phone in their car'.

Roll on a decade - he was completely wrong.

• Senior executives weren't a key market.
• Nobody wanted a phone in their car.

How is that relevant? It's a 'next big thing'.

AI will definitely get bigger and bigger
Whether ChatGPT is a major player or a blast from-the-past is anybody's guess.
The applications and presentation will bear little resemblance to what is being discussed here.

Unlike carphones however, there will be a strong counter-market selling real life human interaction.

 

[DanH]

Unlike carphones however, there will be a strong counter-market selling real life human interaction.

Possibly although the older I get the less human interaction I see with smart phones etc and I currently don't see much to counter balance it...

 

[JamaC]

And now Google is about to launch Bard, currently being used and tested by a select few.

 

[UKcentric]

And Bing seems to be considering completely abandoning the "never-ending pages of search results" approach in favour of AI-generated answers to questions.

 

[DontAsk]

If you use the API for ChatGPT it bypasses all the filtering so you can use it to generate phishing e-mails and malware https://arstechnica.com/information...ervice-that-uses-chatgpt-to-generate-malware/

 

[IanSuth]

interstingly i was just reading a post from the CEO of qbox which is a AI Chatbot testing tool (i put him in his job c20 years ago before AI even existed), his is quite scathing about how poor ChatGPT is compared with the best on the market (it just has better marketing) and Bard is only being announced now to stop ChatGPT running away with all the publicity, it isnt even on general release yet and is very unfinished

 

[krish011]

Is that paid or free application?

Chat GPT Have both option, they have release chat GPT Plus (premium option ) recently.

premium version is started to roll out now on their website.

 

[DEBS Ltd]

Chat GPT Have both option, they have release chat GPT Plus (premium option ) recently.

premium version is started to roll out now on their website.

Yes but free seems rarely available these days.

 

[fisicx]

Yes but free seems rarely available these days.

Why should things be free? The investment has been huge so there needs to be some way to recoup the costs.

Also worth noting that ChatGPT is a closed set. It can’t extend the dataset. This means it has to relearn when the data is updated. Which means the results are going to be increasingly inaccurate.

Worth reading some of the tech blogs on this topic. It’s going to get expensive to use AI.

 

[DEBS Ltd]

Why should things be free? The investment has been huge so there needs to be some way to recoup the costs.

Also worth noting that ChatGPT is a closed set. It can’t extend the dataset. This means it has to relearn when the data is updated. Which means the results are going to be increasingly inaccurate.

Worth reading some of the tech blogs on this topic. It’s going to get expensive to use AI.

Nowhere did I say it should be free. I said it's rarely available these days in response to someone saying there was a free option.

So I'm not really sure where your post is aimed.

 

[DontAsk]

Nowhere did I say it should be free. I said it's rarely available these days in response to someone saying there was a free option.

So I'm not really sure where your post is aimed.

To paraphrase MacArthur "Never make comments that can be understood. Always make comments that cannot be misunderstood."

 

[DEBS Ltd]

To paraphrase MacArthur "Never make comments that can be understood. Always make comments that cannot be misunderstood."

Or alternatively they could bother their behind reading it and not jump to conclusions.

 

[DontAsk]

Or alternatively they could bother their behind reading it and not jump to conclusions.

I read it exactly the same way as fisicx. With respect, include a bit more context if you do not want people to jump to conclusions about one line comments.

 

[DEBS Ltd]

I read it exactly the same way as fisicx. With respect, include a bit more context if you do not want people to jump to conclusions about one line comments.

Or with respect, maybe take some time to read the post and understand what is being said rather than be so desperate to post your ‘expertise’.

 

[Fagin2021]

I've been trying to read up a bit about ChatGPT and the first thing that strikes me is that it's not particularly 'intelligent' - depending of course on how you define 'intelligence'.

ChatGPT relies on a huge volume of text that is already in existence somewhere on the internet. It compiles, sifts, sorts and analyses that text to present the questioner with what it believes is the best answer to their question.

This seems analogous to a historian who writes a book with a vast number of references and attributions but no original research or insights. Like many a Wikipedia article.

That's not to denigrate the efforts of the historian or the usefulness of their work. But is it 'intelligent' ?

To me, one definition of intelligence is the ability to problem-solve - to answer a question based upon the experience and knowledge that has already accumulated about that subject. Also, the ability to predict a result.

So far, the examples I've seen of ChatGPT are simple tasks like content writing or CV writing. In fairness, I've barely looked at it yet.

One of my favourite authors was Somerset Maughan. In one short story he described the eating of an oyster. He didn't use a single word, phrase or punctuation mark that I didn't know, but arranged them in a
way that brought a tear to the eye. When ChatGPT can do that, I become a believer.

Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to getting my free account with OpenAI and asking 'Who was Jack the Ripper ?' Not 'who were the main suspects?' - I can get that with a Google search, but who was he?

 

[MBE2017]

I've been trying to read up a bit about ChatGPT and the first thing that strikes me is that it's not particularly 'intelligent' - depending of course on how you define 'intelligence'.

ChatGPT relies on a huge volume of text that is already in existence somewhere on the internet. It compiles, sifts, sorts and analyses that text to present the questioner with what it believes is the best answer to their question.

I think you have to see it for what it is, a beginning of the AI journey. I’m not an expert but I think you will find ChapGPT will be very different in two years time. Imagine the first mobile phones with the suitcase full of batteries when they first launched, ten to fifteen years later they became the size of a matchbox, now they are becoming much larger again.

Everything evolves, but personally I have been impressed by it. In five years I think I will be amazed by it.

 

[IanSuth]

I think you have to see it for what it is, a beginning of the AI journey. I’m not an expert but I think you will find ChapGPT will be very different in two years time. Imagine the first mobile phones with the suitcase full of batteries when they first launched, ten to fifteen years later they became the size of a matchbox, now they are becoming much larger again.

Everything evolves, but personally I have been impressed by it. In five years I think I will be amazed by it.

This is the crux of what the guy at qbox was saying but also that there are other more advanced tools out there,

ChatGPT is the big loud VHS, there are several more technically accomplished Betamaxes out there already

 

[DEBS Ltd]

I've been trying to read up a bit about ChatGPT and the first thing that strikes me is that it's not particularly 'intelligent' - depending of course on how you define 'intelligence'.

ChatGPT relies on a huge volume of text that is already in existence somewhere on the internet. It compiles, sifts, sorts and analyses that text to present the questioner with what it believes is the best answer to their question.

This seems analogous to a historian who writes a book with a vast number of references and attributions but no original research or insights. Like many a Wikipedia article.

That's not to denigrate the efforts of the historian or the usefulness of their work. But is it 'intelligent' ?

To me, one definition of intelligence is the ability to problem-solve - to answer a question based upon the experience and knowledge that has already accumulated about that subject. Also, the ability to predict a result.

So far, the examples I've seen of ChatGPT are simple tasks like content writing or CV writing. In fairness, I've barely looked at it yet.

One of my favourite authors was Somerset Maughan. In one short story he described the eating of an oyster. He didn't use a single word, phrase or punctuation mark that I didn't know, but arranged them in a
way that brought a tear to the eye. When ChatGPT can do that, I become a believer.

Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to getting my free account with OpenAI and asking 'Who was Jack the Ripper ?' Not 'who were the main suspects?' - I can get that with a Google search, but who was he?

I don't think you're seeing the full extent of it.

If you're on Twitter/LinkedIn just type in and see the prompts people are applying to it and what it's producing.

Take your point it relies on information that's out there already. It's also one of the reasons they released it to the public, to get more input and make it "smarter".

 

[Uwe (Invoiceberry)]

It's quite overhyped in my opinion. AI has been around for ages. OpenAI (creator of ChatGPT) has been around for a long time too. You were able to get exactly the same results already well before ChatGPT. They just made it more approachable for the masses and non-techies.

So the marketers heard about it and understood how to use it and now YouTube, LinkedIn and co. are full of "AI experts" ?

But yes, it's powerful and useful, if you use the right prompts and understand its weaknesses and strengths!

 

[amyjones]

Yes but free seems rarely available these days.

Yeah..i have registerd for it..but still the account is waiting

 

[DazRave]

Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to getting my free account with OpenAI and asking 'Who was Jack the Ripper ?' Not 'who were the main suspects?' - I can get that with a Google search, but who was he?

I was curious how this would go down so I asked for you:

Jack the Ripper was an unidentified serial killer who was active in the Whitechapel district of London, England in 1888. He is believed to have killed at least five women, all of whom were prostitutes, in a gruesome and brutal manner. The killer earned his name due to the way he mutilated his victims' bodies, and the murders caused widespread panic and fear throughout the city. Despite an extensive investigation by police and numerous theories and suspects put forward over the years, the true identity of Jack the Ripper has never been conclusively proven.

I am loving using it as a search took as well as summary tool recently. I pasted in raw lap time data from a recent karting session last weekend and it spat out a brilliant summary I could share with my team. I'm looking forward to the future.

 

[Fagin2021]

I was curious how this would go down so I asked for you:




I am loving using it as a search took as well as summary tool recently. I pasted in raw lap time data from a recent karting session last weekend and it spat out a brilliant summary I could share with my team. I'm looking forward to the future.

That's my point really. The' answer' to my Ripper question is not an answer to the question I asked. It's a summary about the Ripper that's drawn from a variety of different sources - Wikipedia, Google Search and dozens of different books and papers. It's been summarised quite well but is hardly clever, unique or intelligent.

 

[DazRave]

That's my point really. The' answer' to my Ripper question is not an answer to the question I asked. It's a summary about the Ripper that's drawn from a variety of different sources - Wikipedia, Google Search and dozens of different books and papers. It's been summarised quite well but is hardly clever, unique or intelligent.

I think you're being overly strict really, surely 9 out of 10 people would answer your question exactly the same. Also, it learns as you talk to it in order to understand better. E.g. I could then say follow up questions to hone down on the information I wanted. Considering I asked a quick question and it spat out quite a well constructed answer within seconds is quite something. Better then just being given a link to Wikipedia.

The AI is being used to put together lots of data sets in a human readable form almost instantly when asked even some of the most complex questions. It's not trying to think for itself or anything crazy, but what it is doing is going to change how a lot of things work going forward.

 

[DEBS Ltd]

The thing I was most impressed with is that you can input some of your own writing and ask it to write in your tone of voice.

Then again I'm not particularly tech minded, other than knowing the basics of operating it.

 

[Fagin2021]

I think you're being overly strict really, surely 9 out of 10 people would answer your question exactly the same. Also, it learns as you talk to it in order to understand better. E.g. I could then say follow up questions to hone down on the information I wanted. Considering I asked a quick question and it spat out quite a well constructed answer within seconds is quite something. Better then just being given a link to Wikipedia.

The AI is being used to put together lots of data sets in a human readable form almost instantly when asked even some of the most complex questions. It's not trying to think for itself or anything crazy, but what it is doing is going to change how a lot of things work going forward.

I think I was being overly strict too! It'll be interesting to see how student examination boards respond to it - they have enough problems already with third parties writing papers for a fee.

However, I'm sure there'll be a burgeoning software industry analysing whether or not a piece was written by a bot.