Business Link is dead – error riddled Gov.uk site takes over

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  1. elainec100@cheapaccounting

    [email protected] UKBF Newcomer Full Member

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    For some bizarre reason the useful Business Link web site has been closed down and replace with ...

    https://www.gov.uk/

    Now do be careful with this site as it seems to list Registering for Self Assessment under Limited Company and asks you to ....
    Before you register

    You'll need your:

    • National Insurance number
    • personal contact details - eg address
    • business details - eg business address, date you started self-employment or joined a partnership
    Clearly this is incorrect if you have a limited company.

    Not a good start.

    Do you think this is money well spend?

    What do you think of the new site?
     
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    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: [email protected] Member since: Nov 4, 2005
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  2. Nuno

    Nuno UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    Sounds just same old same old. I think the last site got taken down because it was a little expensive to run, about £35million a year or something (might be wrong, could be £35 billion or trillion, :)), and so they might have cut corners on this one.
    Maybe 50% right information for only £17.5million a year. Bargain.

    (Although in fairness I do find the VAT/ Self assessment/Companies House sites easy to use).
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: Nuno Member since: Oct 10, 2011
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  3. KM-Tiger

    KM-Tiger UKBF Legend Full Member - Verified Business

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    That's a bad mistake that muddies where it should clarify.

    That said, as a project I think it's moving in the right direction.
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: KM-Tiger Member since: Aug 10, 2003
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  4. David Griffiths

    David Griffiths UKBF Legend Full Member - Verified Business

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    The HMRC site contains all the information that is necessary. The www.gov.uk should merely signpost links to the relevant section of the HMRC or other relevant sites and shouldn't give advice or information

    There will be some areas that need expanding but where the information is held on other government sites duplication is wasteful, and incorrect duplication is inexcusable
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: David Griffiths Member since: Jun 21, 2008
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  5. elainec100@cheapaccounting

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    I wonder if the HMRC web team have now undone all of those links they had to the Business Link site and put the links back to the HMRC site.

    Such a lot of IT spend - no one would ever believe we were in recession :eek::eek::eek:
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: [email protected] Member since: Nov 4, 2005
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  6. Philip Hoyle

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    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: Philip Hoyle Member since: Apr 3, 2007
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  7. Philip Hoyle

    Philip Hoyle UKBF Ace Free Member

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    And another

    "a ‘profit and loss account’, which shows how much money the company has received and spent and how much profit it has made"

    I didn't know that companies could produce accounts on the cash basis.

    and

    "notes about the accounts, if you want to give more information"

    So the notes are voluntary now are they?

    https://www.gov.uk/prepare-file-annual-accounts-for-limited-company/prepare-annual-accounts

    This looks to be another fiasco in the making.
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: Philip Hoyle Member since: Apr 3, 2007
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  8. Philip Hoyle

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    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: Philip Hoyle Member since: Apr 3, 2007
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  9. elainec100@cheapaccounting

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    OMG - let's see if we can Sift involved to get this DANGEROUS information off line asap

    I'll tweet that nice man Dan Martin - he knows some people but I think he is in the Pitch today!
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: [email protected] Member since: Nov 4, 2005
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  10. elainec100@cheapaccounting

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    I think we need to record all of the errors here. I have tweeted [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]@[/FONT]MTBracken

    Been told that he is responsible for it.
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: [email protected] Member since: Nov 4, 2005
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  11. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    It's also got an appalling search engine

    And all the old useful stuff about setting up a business/website has gone missing.

    And the interface/UI is horrible.

    It says that the site replaces direct.gov but if you want a tax disc for your car, guess where it takes you....

    Yuk, yuk, yuk.
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  12. elainec100@cheapaccounting

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    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: [email protected] Member since: Nov 4, 2005
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  13. Anna Chandley

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    Another error on aligning the first years accounts and corporation tax returns on https://www.gov.uk/first-company-accounts-and-return

    For a company which incorporated on 12/5/11 but did not start business activities until 5/7/11 it suggests the following CT returns are required

    "To align your reporting dates, you send 2 tax returns:
    • 1 for the period before the company started business activities (12 May 2011 to July 4 2011)
    • 1 for the period between the company starting business and the company’s accounting reference date (5 July 2011 to 31 May 2012)"
    Anna
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: Anna Chandley Member since: Jun 2, 2008
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  14. elainec100@cheapaccounting

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    My latest tweet ...

    @mtbracken @gdsteam with respect Mr Bracken the errors are piling up. I think you should remove it and get a expert team to check it!

    @mtbracken is ....

    Digital Director. All things open, data and digital in UK and beyond.
    London · http://digital.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: [email protected] Member since: Nov 4, 2005
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  15. elainec100@cheapaccounting

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    Keep the errors coming team - we'd make a great combined testing team wouldn't we.
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: [email protected] Member since: Nov 4, 2005
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  16. Anna Chandley

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    Even worse on this page is

    "You want to pay a dividend of £900. Divide £900 by 9, which gives you a dividend tax credit of £100. Pay £900 to the shareholder - but add the £100 tax credit and record a total of £1,000 in your company accounts"

    Who on earth wrote this rubbish!

    Anna
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: Anna Chandley Member since: Jun 2, 2008
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  17. elainec100@cheapaccounting

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    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: [email protected] Member since: Nov 4, 2005
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  18. David Griffiths

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    Point them to this thread - and no doubt there will be others! :D
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: David Griffiths Member since: Jun 21, 2008
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  19. businessfunding

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    Interesting to see that they are favouring Barclays as business finance provider.

    A mere shadow of the Business Link site - why waste all that information?
     
    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: businessfunding Member since: Jan 1, 1970
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  20. elainec100@cheapaccounting

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    Posted: Oct 19, 2012 By: [email protected] Member since: Nov 4, 2005
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