Breaking SEO News on Paid Links...........

[RayB]

Google is still plastering tla ads all over my site though...

Has been for months on end.

But they have said they are changing policy and filtering it out...........hence link above...........

 

OK so what is google going to do about this page I have had up for years with no paid links ?

http://www.studdsey.fsnet.co.uk/motor%20links.htm

Earl

 

[RayB]

OK so what is google going to do about this page I have had up for years with no paid links ?

http://www.studdsey.fsnet.co.uk/motor links.htm

Earl

Erm, award it a "design of the year" award?..............

 

[ken_uk]

Text link ads still show up if you search for their domain

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...fficial&q=text-link-ads.com&btnG=Search&meta=

and they show up as a sponsored result here

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...a:en-GB:official&q=text+ads&btnG=Search&meta=

and are showing up on countless sites in the form of adsense ads.

TLA never advertised links by page rank anyways.

If I recall google was filtering people who advertised links for PR gains, do you have any links to google sources that show they are filtering out rival advertising firms that are not advertising links for sale based on PR?

Curious, as google has to be very careful what they do, I would imagine, so they dont get hit with anti-trust/monopoly issues etc

 

[RayB]

Ken - The point is - Google has acknowledged, and is dealing with, instances of hypocrisy in it's index (about time too).

Sure - you can throw up examples that go against this new stance. But why bother?

Only black hatters and blatant link sellers need to get wound up about this stuff

 

[JustOneUK]

Good points, I am sure they would not notice a few but they would 500 as I currentley have very few outward links. Shame, not about the money as that is not here or there but I actually think it would enhance the copy and usefulness of the pages. Not worth the risk though.

Thanks for great points

This is where the system comes unstuck... and hence why there is such a major flare up from webmasters.

You could legitimately add links to sites in the copy of your page, go find them and link to them as a resource (good for your visitors perhaps) they could be ordinary direct html links no problem...

but actually get PAID for doing it - even if they are great sites that you would want your visitors to see....

this is the dilemma. Google can sell whatever links it likes as part of the Adwords program - you can't sell any even though you can put them on for free and give them all the link juice they may want for nothing. :|

 

[RayB]

this is the dilemma. Google can sell whatever links it likes as part of the Adwords program - you can't sell any even though you can put them on for free and give them all the link juice they may want for nothing. :|

Adwords are not links................arrrggghhh

 

[JustOneUK]

Adwords are not links................arrrggghhh

I'm not even going go there, I am bored with your posts.

Goodnight.

 

[RayB]

I'm not even going go there, I am bored with your posts.

Goodnight.

Thanks for the insightful retort

 

[WHUK]

@adventurelife : If you link out to relevant sites then i think there won't be any problem.
Don't place your advertiser link directly rather advertise their site using some relevant content so that it will not look like paid ad's; Try to place all your outgoing links over a period of time.

 

[I, Brian]

Now I have already had lots of offers from companies wanting to place a link in the text to their company and pay me for it. This would in no way devalue the copy in fact I think it would enhance it as all the links would go to companies that are operationg on the rivers but I would only want one link going out from each page.

Question is does this break the paid links rule? And if so how does the G know I am being paid for these links?

Forget about Google's paid links rules - what Google are chasing is aggressive link buying campaigns by low quality sites. If you can place links to quality sites in the page naturally, it offers better value for advertisers, and makes it more likely to pass a manual review by Google.

Frankly, the whole link buying debate is FUD.

Don't use third party link brokers, though, as Google has access to their inventory, and being on the inventory means you should be viewed in a bad light.

Google are pretty fair in general, though - if Google did look at your site, and decided it was a quality content site but that you were selling links, then the first likely scenario is that the URLs identified would no longer pass link juice to the advertisers.

The secret to paid links is to make them look editorially approved as a useful resource, rather than blatant advertising, where possible.

 

[adventurelife]

As always nothing in life is straightforward! Seems to be a lot of conflicting views on here.

 

[I, Brian]

Yep, but all of us have our own specialities.

 

[quikshop]

Yep, but all of us have our own specialities.

Yep, we're all 'special' people in this community

I, Brian is spot on. Regardless of the link being paid for or a free swap, it still comes back to the content and relevance of your web site and the corresponding link.

Any technique that is abused such as massive amounts of paid for links will eventually be punished in some way by Google. I'm waiting for the 'blogverts' to get hammered next. Way too many SEO companies offering huge distribution of adverts inserted on blog pages, its the latest soon-to-be spam technique

 

[RayB]

I'm waiting for the 'blogverts' to get hammered next. Way too many SEO companies offering huge distribution of adverts inserted on blog pages, its the latest soon-to-be spam technique

It has already started - Google removed the toolbar PR of tons of blogs and de-indexed the worst offenders a few weeks ago

PPP and TLA bloggers mainly

 

[I, Brian]

Yep - a bit too hot to much at present.

BTW, on the speciality issue - I wanted to mention some news, which is why I especially mentioned it, but I've got to wait until it's announced officially first.

 

[quikshop]

Yep - a bit too hot to much at present.

BTW, on the speciality issue - I wanted to mention some news, which is why I especially mentioned it, but I've got to wait until it's announced officially first.

Nooooooo, you can't leave us hanging on the edge like that

What's the news, we won't tell anyone, honest

 

[WHUK]

Really, i would be your loyal friend. Please share your TOP secret.

 

[I, Brian]

All goes well, I'll be telling all in February, and be providing full downloads on basic and advanced link development.

 

[WHUK]

Hope my heart will be pumping fine till February. lol

 

[GNU]

Frankly, the whole link buying debate is FUD.

That just about sums it up.

Some sites selling lots of links have been lost PR... but that was always the case anyway... pushing hundreds of links out to non related sites has always been a bad plan, long before the paid link thing arose.

Google is

1) Trying to put adsense competitors out of business
2) Bully site owners into using no-follow links to compensate for their inability to deliver the kind of search results they would like to...