Are you a Christian?

What does this mean who is? What does your christian Bible say about engaging in idle speculation and slandering of a person? I have reported your post to the moderators for idle speculation and slandering someone you do not know and have not had anything to deal with. It seems to me that the correct assessment of you is by AuthorizedAccess. He has surely seen rigt through your arrogance and pomposity. I hope the moderators take appropriate action to, how is it, take you down a peg or two. Silly person.

How can asking a simple question like that, is slandering someone, as many forum users change the user-names quite often, it was a sensible question, as you could all be related as far as I know, you all seem to have the same aggressive attitude, very hard to tell the difference.

Sorry I upset you, by thinking you may be Coddy, he is really nice deep down, like a pussycat, I just love him.
 
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What does this mean who is? What does your christian Bible say about engaging in idle speculation and slandering of a person? I have reported your post to the moderators for idle speculation and slandering someone you do not know and have not had anything to deal with. It seems to me that the correct assessment of you is by AuthorizedAccess. He has surely seen rigt through your arrogance and pomposity. I hope the moderators take appropriate action to, how is it, take you down a peg or two. Silly person.


Come to think of it I haven't seen Parth for a while. I guess to be asked if you are him, I would feel slandered as well
 
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We have the same aggressive attitude?

Haha that's rich. The common point of focus here is that "we" all get utterly frustrated with your constant bloody minded refusal to answer straight forward questions.

If you actually answered most of these as a person without the need to resort to quoting scripture or answering our questions with questions of your own you would see a much less "aggressive" stance from others.

As it is, you behave as though you're trained to deal with everything as a challenge.
 
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    To use the Ignore function:

    1. Click on DCE's name on any post
    2. Find the drop down menu called 'User Lists' which is under his name
    3. Choose the option to ignore

    Enjoy sanity for a while.
     
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    No man can forgive your sin so I can not forgive your sin. You must turn to Allah. One day, in the future, you will have to answer to Allah for your slander and arrogant nature and all your sins and your mocking. In your second or third post to me you mocked my username. But Allah is most merciful. You must hope in that mercy. I have read back through the posts since my last visit to this site, it seems you spend almost your entire day here and want to be the centre of attention, and you enjoy frustrating people and mocking. You must learn the qualities of humilty. It is right then that I will now ignore you, and hope that by being ignored this will make you reflect on your behavior and make you reconsider your attitude to people. Remember that Allah knows all and sees all. *43:77 If they are resolved to ruin you, We are resolved to ruin them. Do they think We cannot hear their secret talk and private converse? Yes! Cur angels, who are at their side, record it all.
     
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    No man can forgive your sin so I can not forgive your sin. You must turn to Allah. .[/COLOR][/I]

    I don't have a problem, as you are quite correct man can not forgive a sin, but here is an interesting scripture,

    (Matthew 6:14-15) 14*"For if YOU forgive men their trespasses, YOUR heavenly Father will also forgive YOU; 15*whereas if YOU do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will YOUR Father forgive YOUR trespasses.

    That was an instruction from your prophet Jesus.
     
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    To use the Ignore function:

    1. Click on DCE's name on any post
    2. Find the drop down menu called 'User Lists' which is under his name
    3. Choose the option to ignore

    Enjoy sanity for a while.

    Despite his obvious loopiness and his refusal to answer any questions some of the cast in here appear to find DCE irresistible.

    Makes you wonder, eh?


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    Despite his obvious loopiness and his refusal to answer any questions some of the cast in here appear to find DCE irresistible.

    Makes you wonder, eh?


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    DCE is hilarious. It's the religious equivalent of Paul McKenna hypnotising a guy on stage to act like a chicken.

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    Despite his obvious loopiness and his refusal to answer any questions some of the cast in here appear to find DCE irresistible.

    Makes you wonder, eh?.

    Most unbelievers, want to know whether their decision, not to believe, is justified, so they ask questions of a believer, in away, that hopefully will give credence and creditability to their own stand on the matter.

    It is an ongoing issue as the scene of this world is forever changing in a very negative way, and to a believer, who understands Bible prophecy, this is something expected, but to a none believer, the question is, look what's happening now, and wonders, is the Bible right in what it's saying?

    Anyone that has a positive outlook to the future, people try to break that outlook, as they want you to be, the same as themselves, as they would be happy then, because it makes them feel safe, that they have made the right decision, but as Jesus said:-

    (John 15:17-19) 18*If the world hates YOU, YOU know that it has hated me before it hated YOU. 19*If YOU were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because YOU are no part of the world, but I have chosen YOU out of the world, on this account the world hates YOU.*.

    That's why CJD tells people to ignore people, that have a positive outlook, in case he looses control over his converts, as he is one of the High Priests representing Darwins theory, and Dawkins, sad really, but's it all about themselves, it make them feel safe, if others agree with them.

    So the questions, are not to learn what is true, or see a scripture, that is like seeing a refection in a mirror, of what the world scene is now, and that proves the Bible prophesies to be true, does it not.

    So they say, don't quote scripture, it's just ordinary men that have written it, so it is rubbish. Really!

    That is why the questions, are put in such away, that they can ridicule and return a negative answer, and that is why not all, question are answered, as the motive behind them is very suspect, skulduggery comes to mind.

    We as Christians, have to use discernment when talking to strangers, as you can see, if they are not getting the sort of answers the want to hear, they become aggressive in their speech, name calling, is that the sort of person one would have dealings with?

    They use the phrase, "simple question", or you refuse to answer my question, so your are liar, but what they are really saying, you have not allowed me to get to where I wanted to go, with this question, so as to ridicule your answer, by my already prepared twisted reasoning on the matter.

    I am now being called a chicken by Coddy but this is interesting:-

    Chickens have what is known as a "pecking order".

    They peck each other to enforce a heirarchy. CJD is a enthusiastic pecker & Coddy

    Sometimes in the confines of the chicken house this gets out of hand.

    If blood is drawn, all the other chickens join in and continue pecking the one until it dies.

    Farmers know this and flood the chicken house with red light which will obscure any blood.

    Can we be like the chickens?

    or like the farmers?

    Don't peck others to death.

    Turn on the red lights.

    By following the teaching of the Bible, we will have everlasting life in view.

    (John 17:3) 3*This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.
     
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    So basically what you are saying is that because I don't have a faith of any kind whatsoever, I am a negative person, and I don't have a positive outlook?

    Don't be so pathetic! LOL!

    As I originally said way back when I first joined this discussion, All I have ever had from religious sects is to be belittled simply because I don't believe, again as I've said on more than one occasion I respect people's beliefs, unfortunately I can not respect those that refuse to accept that everyone is entitled to believe in what they want, whether it's some pygmy in the sky, aliens dumping the human gene on this tiny little rock just to see what happens, god, jesus, Allah, or anything for that matter.

    With reference to this that you've said...

    DCE said:
    That's why CJD tells people to ignore people, that have a positive outlook, in case he looses control over his converts, as he is one of the High Priests representing Darwins theory, and Dawkins, sad really, but's it all about themselves, it make them feel safe, if others agree with them.

    The same can be said about every other religion out there, therefore the statement is quite irrelevant.
     
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    Most unbelievers, want to know whether their decision, not to believe, is justified, so they ask questions of a believer, in away, that hopefully will give credence and creditability to their own stand on the matter.
    The idea of God(s) does not exist in a person's mind by default, it has to be put there by another. Therefore you have to decide to believe, not the other way around.

    I am now being called a chicken by Coddy but this is interesting:-

    Chickens have what is known as a "pecking order".
    They peck each other to enforce a heirarchy. CJD is a enthusiastic pecker & Coddy
    Sometimes in the confines of the chicken house this gets out of hand.
    If blood is drawn, all the other chickens join in and continue pecking the one until it dies.
    Farmers know this and flood the chicken house with red light which will obscure any blood.
    Can we be like the chickens?
    or like the farmers?
    Don't peck others to death.
    Turn on the red lights.

    lmao how can you put this guy on ignore, this is hilarious.
     
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    So basically what you are saying is that because I don't have a faith of any kind whatsoever, I am a negative person, and I don't have a positive outlook?

    Don't be so pathetic! LOL!

    As I originally said way back when I first joined this discussion, All I have ever had from religious sects is to be belittled simply because I don't believe, again as I've said on more than one occasion I respect people's beliefs, unfortunately I can not respect those that refuse to accept that everyone is entitled to believe in what they want, whether it's some pygmy in the sky, aliens dumping the human gene on this tiny little rock just to see what happens, god, jesus, Allah, or anything for that matter.

    With reference to this that you've said...

    The same can be said about every other religion out there, therefore the statement is quite irrelevant.

    I agree with everything you are saying, and I am not trying to belittle you, I am not judging you, we are all free, to believe what we like, we all have freedom of choice, I have no problem with that.

    God does not want, to force anyone to worship him, and that is the point, we can use our free will, up to a certain point, such as obeying the traffic laws etc. and acting in the best interests of others, and not always looking to our own interests.

    But also God wants us to obey his laws, out of love for him, because you know at the end of the day, if everyone did there would be no injustice in this world, we live in today, peace and security would prevail, we would not need locks on our doors that's for sure.

    I don't whether you have ever said the Lord's prayer, which asked for God's Kingdom to come, well that is what it's all about, not religion, it's about the Kingdom which is a heavenly government, and it is going to take ruler-ship over the earth, and bring about peace throughout the earth.

    Now if you knew that information to be true, would you not tell others about it, it's not me thinking I'm better than you, I am giving you some good news, if you are offended by that, there is nothing I can do about it, I didn't bring notice to myself, but it was the kingdom I brought, to your notice, and I tell everyone, I meet, about the Good News about God's Kingdom arrangement, does that make me a bad person?

    If you don't want to know, that's your choice, it is not going to change the facts though, is it, God's kingdom will come about, it is guaranteed, or Jesus Christ's ransom sacrifice would have been futile, would you, have had your son put to death, and not carry out the purpose you allowed it?

    I don't think so!

    So my friend I am not forcing you to believe anything, but I am informing you what I, and many more million believe to be, the absolute truth, and we were instructed by Jesus to tell as many people as we can, out of love for our neighbour,

    We see, when we look at the state of the world is in today, the leaders not knowing, where to turn, to get out of this mess, are we not thankful to have the Good News of God's Kingdom, which is soon to step into mankind's affairs, and sort everything out, once and for all time.

    Religion, that is not speaking about the Good News of the Kingdom, which is the message throughout the Bible, also is the message, Jesus came to the earth to give, are they not really failing, in telling people the truth?

    (Matthew 9:35) And Jesus set out on a tour of all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and preaching the good news of the kingdom and curing every sort of disease and every sort of infirmity.

    Jesus was giving a fore-gleam, of what the Kingdom was going to bring about on the earth, marvellous, no-more sickness, and he even raised the dead.

    Worth mentioning to people we meet, would you not agree?

    So it not about you, it not about me, it's about the Good News of the Kingdom.

    A real positive hope for the future?

    CJD want's us to thinks like ex apeman, no hope in that, mankind would have no purpose in life, that's why CJD is always positive of the past, because, what he is saying, he has been led to believe, by Satan, who does not want mankind to have a wonderful future, just death in view, is that not the conclusion which results from, the only message CJD he is giving out.

    There is very little to think positive about these days, have you been watching the news?
     
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    You must be one of the few that don't already have him on ignore. It's like debating with a teenage child who 'absolutely' knows they are right based on their narrow limited view of the World :rolleyes:
    Yeah, but it's funny as heck.

    "Come here and see how persecuted we are. What? Well, yes we do let our children die because we have a backward view of medicine, but look, look... persecuted!" *waves bible*
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    You must be one of the few that don't already have him on ignore. It's like debating with a teenage child who 'absolutely' knows they are right based on their narrow limited view of the World :rolleyes:

    You cannot see the bigger picture than?

    Like a Jigsaw, you haven't put all the pieces together then?

    Maybe one day Quikshop, it's fantastic when the last piece falls into place, and you know what the truth really is.

    Talking about narrow, that's funny, that is what Jesus spoke about.

    (Matthew 7:13-14) 13*"Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; 14*whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.

    Anything goes in the world today, so it's pretty broad and spacious, so we see everything, just as you do, but we have to work out, what's behind it all, then you have spiritual insight.
     
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    Yeah, but it's funny as heck.

    Only for the first 200 or so posts, after that you'll just end up wanting to send him to his room without any dinner :p

    In all seriousness though, people with strong delusional tendencies should be offered help to re-integrate with society. The first step is to make sure that the cult responsible for his condition are exposed for what they are.
     
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    Only for the first 200 or so posts, after that you'll just end up wanting to send him to his room without any dinner :p

    In all seriousness though, people with strong delusional tendencies should be offered help to re-integrate with society. The first step is to make sure that the cult responsible for his condition are exposed for what they are.

    What about the Churches quikshop, are they delusional?

    Are the Muslims delusional?

    Are Atheist delusional?

    What do you believe?
     
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    I am now being called a chicken by Coddy but this is interesting:-

    Chickens have what is known as a "pecking order".

    So do many animals. Jehovah Witnesses start with Elders, they peck other subordinates like DCE.

    They peck each other to enforce a heirarchy. CJD is a enthusiastic pecker & Coddy

    No they don't, they fight - which sometimes involves pecking. They peck each other due to stress and boredom.

    Sometimes in the confines of the chicken house this gets out of hand.

    That's because if you keep Chickens locked up it's boring, stressful and gives them no where to retreat too.

    If blood is drawn, all the other chickens join in and continue pecking the one until it dies.

    No, they don't. Chickens are stupid, but not so stupid as to stand there being "pecked to death"... The bird can move, and will move if pecked.

    Farmers know this and flood the chicken house with red light which will obscure any blood.

    The Red light is a heat lamp. It does nothing to stop Chickens pecking, other than to make the Chicken House a little warmer.

    By following the teaching of the Bible, we will have everlasting life in view.

    But you haven't a clue about Chickens, and an (educated) child could have informed you about the heat lamp.

    If you can't research something simple like Chickens, how can anyone - even you, trust your "studying" of the Bible.

    ps. I have been keeping Chickens for a number of years now.
     
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    Maybe the ones trying to get some sort of discussion with DCE are the ones that are delusional as well.

    It's like when you see a sing that says 'wet paint' - you just have to touch it.
    DCE is an odditty, a novelty, a curious example of what a person can be like when the wiring is fried.

    Natural curiosity compels me to engage with him (them) as he (they) are an amusement and a good reminder that these smiling idiots are not to be trusted.
     
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    The Red light is a heat lamp. It does nothing to stop Chickens pecking, other than to make the Chicken House a little warmer.

    No, they don't. Chickens are stupid, but not so stupid as to stand there being "pecked to death"... The bird can move, and will move if pecked.

    ps. I have been keeping Chickens for a number of years now.


    Sure you been keeping chickens?

    Red light red has been used to reduce cannibalism and feather picking, also white light gives heat

    A company* that markets red contact lenses for chickens (at 20 cents a pair), points to medical studies showing that chickens wearing red-tinted contact lenses behave differently from birds that don't. They eat less, produce more and don't fight as much. This decreases aggressive tendencies and birds are less likely to peck at each other causing injury. A spokesman said the lenses will improve world egg-laying productivity by $600 million a year.

    http://www.inc.com/magazine/19890501/5636.html

    Also when chickens do draw blood, they go a little berserk. For some reason blood sends everyone into a frenzy and they attack the wounded animal. The more blood there is, the more they attack. So you go back tot he red light, which covers the blood and stops the pecking
     
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    No they don't, they fight - which sometimes involves pecking. They peck each other due to stress and boredom.


    Not heard of the phrase pecking order? It means the chickens are establishing their own little society structure and deciding who's in charge.

    Boredom often results them in pecking their eggs, then they can go on to eat the whole egg including the shell

    If you can't research something simple like Chickens,

    mmm yea those that cannot research about chickens eh!!!!
     
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    ps. I have been keeping Chickens for a number of years now.

    Thanks Josor for that interesting information, it will be beneficial for subbynet to understand, as we would not want him to lose any of his chickens.

    Just to confirm what you are saying is correct.

    Hens' Lenses or a red light that does the same.

    That laying hens should wear contact lenses seems absurd.

    But it apparently solves a real poultry problem.

    The birds peck at each other to determine who is "top chicken."

    If blood is drawn, the rest often will kill the victim.

    "A farm can lose as much as 25 percent of its flock," explained a poultry science researcher at Virginia Polytechnic Institute.

    "Debeaking" has been a method of coping with the problem, but it makes feeding awkward and wasteful.

    On the other hand, red-tinted contact lenses "keep hens docile because the red tint makes it difficult for them to see blood," reports Science 81 magazine.

    The lenses are said to cost less than 20 cents (U.S.) a pair, stay in for the egg-laying life of a hen, and save farmers about a cent per dozen eggs by keeping flock death rates to 5 percent.

    That's why subbynet does not understand the Bible, because he does not research things thoroughly enough, before giving an answer.

    Many people use rose tinted glasses when looking at the world, they only see the good parts, but the Bible helps us, to focus also, on the bad parts, and it really bad.

    Jesus was pecked to death by the Pharisees, and it was all based on lies, and hidden motives, they wanted to enforce a hierarchy situation, that would have put them over the Roman Empire, but Jesus, was telling them, what they didn't want hear, and they hated him for it.

    (Matthew 12:38) 38*Then as an answer to him some of the scribes and Pharisees said: "Teacher, we want to see a sign from you."

    They wanted Jesus to tell them, that God's Kingdom was to be established on the earth there and then, as they wanted to be, the rulers, so they could take the yoke of the Roman Empire, away from them.

    But Jesus said this this to pilate (John 18:35-36) Pilate answered: "I am not a Jew, am I? Your own nation and the chief priests delivered you up to me. What did you do?" 36*Jesus answered: "My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.

    You see, the Jewish leaders hated him, because the Kingdom was not to be established at that time, and had him put to death, an innocent man.

    Pity people also think that way also today, but if they had not gone to SpecSavers, and got the right sort of glasses, and seen things more clearly, especially what God's word was really saying, instead of death in view it would be everlasting life, through the Kingdom arrangement, that the Jews wanted to see so badly back in their days.

    You cannot tell the Quality of the inside of an egg from the outside, we have to break it first, just like we cannot judge people on outside appearance, only when we break the ice with someone, do we from, what they are saying, discern what sort of person they are, it's great to meet someone that builds us up and is encouraging or disappointment when someone only want's to tears things down, because of not having accurate knowledge, the chicken situation being an example.

    Sad world we live in, but it's soon to change, and there will be no pecking order only love for each other.
     
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    Haha - lens for chickens. This company, and what they did, were exposed for their cruelty to the chickens. Their lens caused continual soreness, infections and blindness. They could not naturally flush their eyes of grit so were in continuous pain.
    The hens were taken to Dr. Nedim C. Buyukmihci, V.M.D., Associate Professor of Ophthalmology in the School of Veterinary Medicine at the University of California, Davis. Dr. Buyukmihci's July 25, 1991 report on his examination of these hens supports his earlier one based on his examination of a pair of lenses. He explains that "The red plastic lenses are at the very least uncomfortable for the chickens. These red plastic lenses also appear to cause corneal ulcers. In the worst case, these ulcers can rupture and lead to blindness. Pain always is a significant component of corneal ulcers or ruptured eyes."
    This company Animalens I do not think is in business anymore.
    Animalens' claim that chickens with contact lenses are "calm" shows scientific naivete at best. In chronic pain, discomfort, or distress, chickens and other organisms, including humans, tend to acclimate to the chronic noxious stimulus showing only very subtle outward signs of pain. They reduce their activities, develop guarding behavior, and may even deteriorate to a state of learned helplessness indicating that they have succumbed utterly to helpless despair and the destruction of their personality and will.
    As is debeaking, the contact lens for chickens is an abusive substitute for the proper care and housing of these birds. If the birds were properly cared for there would be no need for the lens. In addition, the lens experiment at Cal Poly reveals the nadir that can be reached by researchers and others whom the government of society has so far failed to make accountable for their actions: the student protocol approved by Robert Spiller for "Field trial with red contact lenses for laying hens" does not even contain a requirement for the veterinary care and treatment of the sensitive eyes of living creatures being used in so intimate and destructive a fashion. To date the egg industry has not adopted contact lenses for laying hens, nor should they. This narrowly opportunistic technology is a benighted way for a university, a company or an industry to make a buck.
    And there is the real answer. Not lens but proper animal care. My friend from my village keeps chickens. She does not use lamps or such but the chickens run free on her farm and at night rest in one barn. They do not peck to death or fight because they have space to be natural chickens and to move and run and lay their eggs. Red light, white light, none of this is needed in a natural farm. Just a safe place to rest at night and able to move and lay their eggs.
    Some religion ideas are like these red lens. Everyone sees the world through their own religious lens. It seems like a good idea, that they are right, but really it is not. It is solving a problem for man, created by man, for man. My lens is the Qur’ān, someone elses the Torah, some one elses the Bible. This is why we peck each other to death sometimes. IF not properly understood, our lens can cause infection and blindness.
     
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    Everyone sees the world through their own religious lens. It seems like a good idea, that they are right, but really it is not. It is solving a problem for man, created by man, for man. My lens is the Qur'ān, someone elses the Torah, some one elses the Bible. This is why we peck each other to death sometimes. IF not properly understood, our lens can cause infection and blindness.

    Exactly but the lamps were better, as I said in the beginning, but man continues in the quest for greater productivity, so they continue on the same route.

    As the Quaran contains a lot of what is written in the Bible and not visa versa, it also shows that the prophet Jesus has to be respected, as I have studied the Quaran, and have had bible studies with many Muslims, so I do have some insight in what you believe.

    I am not here to argue with you, but to share common ground, so don't be so aggressive in your replies, as Jesus and Allah said, be peaceable with all men.
     
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    Sure you been keeping chickens?

    Yes. Very sure. Would you like pictures? :rolleyes:

    Red light red has been used to reduce cannibalism and feather picking, also white light gives heat

    http://www.inc.com/magazine/19890501/5636.html

    Red Light is what? You should know this one... The light you really mean to speak about is infraRed, which as you should know, gives off heat. Warm Chickens are happy chickens :rolleyes: It doesn't stop pecking as such, the light doesn't blind them to blood, infrared light is invisible, this is why your link speaks of Red Contact Lenses. If you stick red contact lenses on a Chicken, it will have the same amount of trouble as you will. Good luck on your mission to stick contact lenses on hundreds if not thousands of chickens.

    Here - I'll give you a challenge. Use Google images or Flickr, anywhere you want. You find me a Commerical Chicken House bathed in red light which aren't heat lamps (infrared)...

    Also when chickens do draw blood, they go a little berserk. For some reason blood sends everyone into a frenzy and they attack the wounded animal. The more blood there is, the more they attack. So you go back tot he red light, which covers the blood and stops the pecking

    Are you DCE mark 2? It's just I've read this before. Copy and Paste Copy and Paste. Funnily enough I have researched about Chickens. Oh, Kathy says Hi. :rolleyes:

    They do peck blood spots, but unless you have chickens in cages, they tend to move away - simple really. Your little stage show I've just quoted above was in response to a woman who had pecking issues for several months, she should have done something.

    Not heard of the phrase pecking order? It means the chickens are establishing their own little society structure and deciding who's in charge.

    Yes, I've heard of it, have you? Look it up, just because it's called Pecking Order, doesn't mean it's all about "Pecking". I can tell you the "Pecking Order" of all 8 hens I own.

    Boredom often results them in pecking their eggs, then they can go on to eat the whole egg including the shell

    The eggs are normally taken for our consumption. Feather pecking is "often the result", prolonged pecking can result in bleeds, this brings it's own issues. But granted, a Chicken will sometimes eat it's own or others eggs, including the shell.
     
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    Exactly but the lamps were better, as I said in the beginning, but man continues in the quest for greater productivity, so they continue on the same route.

    You what? Man of God speaks of "productivity" in the killing of God's creation. I don't think you'll find that anywhere in the Bible, do you DCE.

    The lamps were never better, a chicken outside running around in the open air is "better", but like some others on a religious persuasion, you show a strange moral compass when it comes to animals.
     
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    Exactly but the lamps were better, as I said in the beginning, but man continues in the quest for greater productivity, so they continue on the same route.

    As the Quaran contains a lot of what is written in the Bible and not visa versa, it also shows that the prophet Jesus has to be respected, as I have studied the Quaran, and have had bible studies with many Muslims, so I do have some insight in what you believe.

    I am not here to argue with you, but to share common ground, so don't be so aggressive in your replies, as Jesus and Allah said, be peaceable with all men.

    These are your words
    On the other hand, red-tinted contact lenses "keep hens docile because the red tint makes it difficult for them to see blood," reports Science 81 magazine.

    The lenses are said to cost less than 20 cents (U.S.) a pair, stay in for the egg-laying life of a hen, and save farmers about a cent per dozen eggs by keeping flock death rates to 5 percent.

    That's why subbynet does not understand the Bible, because he does not research things thoroughly enough, before giving an answer.

    You made a point not well researched about these lens and did not say about their cruel action on the chickens. It is all about the profit for the farmer and forget about the suffering they cause. You very next talk about someone not researching their facts and try to belittle them. My reply was not even to you but about the company and their cruelty for profit. I explained well in my last post to you I would be ignoring you and hope this would make you reflect on your superior attitude, your mocking and your belittling of people here who do not have the same colored lens as you! It seems even when you are being ignored you feel you must interupt and belittle someone else - this is you liking to be the centre of attention, and then you accuse of aggression haha. Perhaps your red lens have been in too long and you have an eye infection and ulcer now - careful this does not lead to blindness. Now these are my last words to you until you repair your manner and speak to people with respect, and stop making fun of people, and mocking, their beliefs and thinking you are better people and show respect for the beliefs and lives of others. I will speak to you again when I have determined you have worked to repair your poor attitude and your superior manner. You must learn humility.
     
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    You what? Man of God speaks of "productivity" in the killing of God's creation. I don't think you'll find that anywhere in the Bible, do you DCE.

    The lamps were never better, a chicken outside running around in the open air is "better", but like some others on a religious persuasion, you show a strange moral compass when it comes to animals.

    I said man continues in the quest for greater productivity, so they continue on the same route.

    Nothing to do with, a man of God or the Bible my friend.

    Twisting thing again subbynet, and it is the amount of light that the lamps give off that was the key that stopped the the chickens seeing the blood.

    You always look at things in the wrong light mate, pity, it would save people time, if you researched your subject first, all you seem to want to do is tear down.
     
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    You made a point not well researched about these lens and did not say about their cruel action on the chickens. It is all about the profit for the farmer and forget about the suffering they cause. You very next talk about someone not researching their facts and try to belittle them. My reply was not even to you but about the company and their cruelty for profit. I explained well in my last post to you I would be ignoring you and hope this would make you reflect on your superior attitude, your mocking and your belittling of people here who do not have the same colored lens as you! It seems even when you are being ignored you feel you must interupt and belittle someone else - this is you liking to be the centre of attention, and then you accuse of aggression haha. Perhaps your red lens have been in too long and you have an eye infection and ulcer now - careful this does not lead to blindness. Now these are my last words to you until you repair your manner and speak to people with respect, and stop making fun of people, and mocking, their beliefs and thinking you are better people and show respect for the beliefs and lives of others. I will speak to you again when I have determined you have worked to repair your poor attitude and your superior manner. You must learn humility.

    That was not the point being made, it was the point chicken kill each other, twisting things so suit your argument,

    Subby said this No, they don't. Chickens are stupid, but not so stupid as to stand there being "pecked to death"... The bird can move, and will move if pecked.

    That was not true, they do peck themselves to death, and that is what the issue was, you have taken it to another level to try and create an issue, so you can ridicule.

    Fool I am not, humility is something you need to research, you will be surprised how, you yourself don't fit into that bracket, it works both ways.
     
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    That was not the point being made, it was the point chicken kill each other, twisting things so suit your argument,

    Subby said this No, they don't. Chickens are stupid, but not so stupid as to stand there being "pecked to death"... The bird can move, and will move if pecked.

    That was not true, they do peck themselves to death, and that is what the issue was, you have taken it to another level to try and create an issue, so you can ridicule.

    Fool I am not, humility is something you need to research, you will be surprised how, you yourself don't fit into that bracket, it works both ways.

    You are a fool, sorry but I'm past being fair to you. Chickens don't just stand there unless you lock them up. I happened to say this too.

    Simple question to you DCE (although I bet you still don't answer properly) - do you think its cruel to lock up chickens (or any animal) in those conditions?

    And actually, the original point was about Pecking Orders, and how cjd and Coddy are part of that order..... I replied saying just like you have Elders from the Jehovah Witnesses that "peck" you... (You skipped over that bit)
     
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