299£ is it too much for 1st page listing in Google.co.uk ??

[Advert World]

My company have new service:

1st page listing in Google.co.uk on 5 most important phrases for your business for only 299£ per month

With the main features:
- No long term contract (only monthly renewal),
- Completely flexible (phrases and adverts can be changed at any time at short notice without incurring any furher costs)
- It will take only 2 working days
- We will never need access to a client's website to do our work.
- The key phrases are not dictated by us
- Google experts monitoring your account
- Monthly analytics so you can measure the performance of your campaign


What do you thinking about price ? 299£ is too much or too low ?

 

[OldWelshGuy]

£299 for ANY phrases? I assume you are talking about charging people £299 and using adwords to advertise their sites, and not organic listings, is this the case?

 

[Advert World]

For any geographical phrases, and we using something like adwords (but we have a "little" oter terms with Google on providing this services).

£60 for 1st page listing for whole month for each phrase isn't too much ?


For Google.co.uk or Google.com positioning our price starting from £599 per month (up to £999 for any keyword, minimum 6 month contract).

 

[OldWelshGuy]

For any geographical phrases, and we using something like adwords (but we have a "little" oter terms with Google on providing this services).

£60 for 1st page listing for whole month for each phrase isn't too much ?

can you expand on your comment please? what do you mean by 'geographical phrases' and what does "something like adwords (but we have a "little" oter terms with Google on providing this services)" tell me you are not cliaiming to have a special relationship with Google?

Sorry if the questions are probing, but you have asked a question 'is it worth it' and i am asking the questions that need answering to make that call.

 

[dynamic08]

I think when you can speak fluent english maybe then you can charge people 299£

But im offering the same service for £298

299£ to open up an adwords account blimey I need to get into your business

 

[Advert World]

Ofc.

1. Geographical ?
-"used cars London"
-"shoes shop York"
- etc.

2.We don't using adwords to provide our services, we cooperating with company which is close to Google, I can't say anything more, it is our little business secret , but of course everything is legally, with VAT and other stuff.

 

[OldWelshGuy]

Ofc.

1. Geographical ?
-"used cards London"
-"shoes shop York"
- etc.

2.We don't using adwords to provide our services, we cooperating with company which is close to Google, I can't say anything more, it is our little business secret , but of course everything is legally, with VAT and other stuff.

Based on what I have highlighted I would advise people not to go within a th9usand miles of your service (sorry). It looks like a scam, there is not company that can guarantee listings on Google other than Google themselves, and the ONLY way to guarantee PPC on the front page of google is to use adwords. Google does NOT show anyone elses advertising on their SERP's.

Also 'our little secret' is NOT a way to do business, because 'our little secret' normally means it is not 100% legal or that the reason it is 'our little secret' is because it is in the best interests of the client to know what that secret is.

I think that either YOU are dishonest, or (more likely) You have been duped by a dishonest person who's services you are looking to re-sell

 

Ofc.

1. Geographical ?
-"used cards London"
-"shoes shop York"
- etc.

2.We don't using adwords to provide our services, we cooperating with company which is close to Google, I can't say anything more, it is our little business secret , but of course everything is legally, with VAT and other stuff.

Me thinks you fib "a company thats close to google".?

or else you have been hood winked by this company.

I have a special relationship with Google.

It loves me and I hate them.

Earl

 

[Dmkths]

If I was to pay someone £299 I would like to know where and to who it was going to. Something is not quite right with this one.

 

[Advert World]

But I said that this listing will be in PPC section (something like adwords), but we don't using adwords to get over there (I'm not telling that we are using non Google services, Google is main provider), I don't want talking about provider beacause many companies are here, I don't want selling my services in here, I just asking about price, nothing less nothing more.

If anyone want order can order and then he will see that everything is true, we are based in UK, so how we can fraud anyone ?

 

we are based in UK, so how we can fraud anyone ?

I take it you have not been in the UK long.?

Some of the greatest fraudsters in History have come from our green and pleasent Land.

Earl

 

[glencooley.com]

Obviously ist using doubleclick which is owned by google.

 

[UKSBD]

There is not company that can guarantee listings on Google other than Google themselves, and the ONLY way to guarantee PPC on the front page of google is to use adwords. Google does NOT show anyone elses advertising on their SERP's.

Not neccessarily true.
There are ways of guaranteing top spots in google search results.

 

Not neccessarily true.
There are ways of guaranteing top spots in google search results.

Apart from going into business with me I don't know any.:|

So Come on spill the beans.

Earl

 

[UKSBD]

Using COOP cleverly

 

[dynamic08]

You are based in the UK. Learn to speak proper english then!

 

[JustOneUK]

1. Geographical ?
-"used cards London"
-"shoes shop York"
- etc.
.

Used cards London - blimey that's WAAAAAYYYYYY up there in the difficulty stakes,,, are you sure £299/month is enough?

2.We don't using adwords to provide our services, we cooperating with company which is close to Google, I can't say anything more, it is our little business secret .

Biggest load of bollox I've heard this year... AND last year

Apart from going into business with me I don't know any.:|

So Come on spill the beans.

Build a site for a term that has NO competition, guaranteed

 

Using COOP cleverly

Well I get some of me shopping there but beyond that never heard of it.?

Earl

 

[JustOneUK]

I hope he's not referring to the DP co-op?

 

[Deleted member 27344]

How to get to number 1 on Google - ORLY?

and that doesn't cost £300 a month!

Edit > And I just checked and it's number 6, so not bad!

 

[UKSBD]

I hope he's not referring to the DP co-op?

google coop.

 

[OldWelshGuy]

Not neccessarily true.
There are ways of guaranteing top spots in google search results.

But your example is using google co-op custom search . that wouldn't stand up in court, as co-op iISN'T Google is it! When someone says guaranteed listings in google, the law would take that to mean google.co.uk or google.com, anything else would be classed as deception. .

I say again there is no-one who can guarantee top listing in google other than google themselves (and by 'guarantee' I don't mean GIVE a guarantee, I mean actually have the listing there constantly). Obviously anyone can GIVE a guarantee, but no-one other than google can ACTUALLY gurantee your site will be there.

 

[Deleted member 27344]

100% agree with OWG but unfortunately there are suckers born every minute who will hear the word 'Google' and believe every lie the salesman tells them.
Thankfully forums like this expose these false claims and hopefully these people won't get any business from here but there are thousands of other possible ways.

 

[UKSBD]

I know that and you know that.

But I can still guarantee to get your site number one for a given term
when someone use a google.com page to search for a keyword on your site.

It's all in the wording

 

[Mattonella Tile Studio]

The phone call I received last week guaranteed me front page on Google, but when I asked for which keywords the subject kept getting changed. It later transpired it was customer street, and their directory was on page 1 for 'tile shop stafford' so that was their technicality of how I'd be there, within their directory.

 

[Advert World]

It is quite simple, if we offer guranteed 1st page in Google it will be 1st page in Google.

If anyone try to say that we are frauder please say it straight to me.

I don't talk about our provider, about our company but about price for service which I presented. Probably some person don't know anything about hard way to be in 1st page in Google for "used cars (not cards, my mistake)", if anyone thinking that he can be in Google in 1st when he will be using Adwords 24 hours in each day in month, let be my guest...


So anyone have anything stupid to say ? Is it business forum or what ? Anyone can talking seriously or only you can making jokes from my english (yeah I'm not English, so what ? Can you speaking, writing fluently in French ?) ?


But is something good in your responds, I know now that our price £299 is very good (what it is so hard to believe ?)...

 

[Mattonella Tile Studio]

It is quite simple, if we offer guranteed 1st page in Google it will be 1st page in Google.

If anyone try to say that we are frauder please say it straight to me.

I don't talk about our provider, about our company but about price for service which I presented. Probably some person don't know anything about hard way to be in 1st page in Google for "used cars (not cards, my mistake)", if anyone thinking that he can be in Google in 1st when he will be using Adwords 24 hours in each day in month, let be my guest...


So anyone have anything stupid to say ? Is it business forum or what ? Anyone can talking seriously or only you can making jokes from my english (yeah I'm not English, so what ? Can you speaking, writing fluently in French ?) ?


But is something good in your responds, I know now that our price £299 is very good (what it is so hard to believe ?)...

What is your guarantee? In the sense of if it isn't on the first page what happens then, refund of money paid?

 

[Advert World]

Yes, full refund will be provided.

We are serious company not some scammers from Nigeria...

We gurantee that your website will be on 1st page listing in Google.co.uk on 5 geoghraphical phrases which you choose (which are best for your business) (for example car seller from London probably will choose "used cars London", "used vans London", "used car London", "used van London", "cheap cars London")....

No long term contract, after payment you will be in Google by 1 month in 2 business days (if you want more months you will pay just after one month for next month)...

Do you have more questions ?

 

[Deleted member 27344]

Please post here 3 real life examples of real client's sites that you have got to number 1 and the keywords used.

Edit - Oh, and what is your company URL and where is that placed on Google.com when I search for 'google number 1'?

 

Yes, full refund will be provided.

We are serious company not some scammers from Nigeria...

well in that case why not take payment after you have the result like I do.?

Earl

 

[OldWelshGuy]

It is quite simple, if we offer guranteed 1st page in Google it will be 1st page in Google.

If anyone try to say that we are frauder please say it straight to me.

I don't talk about our provider, about our company but about price for service which I presented. Probably some person don't know anything about hard way to be in 1st page in Google for "used cars (not cards, my mistake)", if anyone thinking that he can be in Google in 1st when he will be using Adwords 24 hours in each day in month, let be my guest...


So anyone have anything stupid to say ? Is it business forum or what ? Anyone can talking seriously or only you can making jokes from my english (yeah I'm not English, so what ? Can you speaking, writing fluently in French ?) ?


But is something good in your responds, I know now that our price £299 is very good (what it is so hard to believe ?)...

Let me ask you a simple enough question. you are saying 'guaranteed 1st page in Google' where? What EXACTLY are you guaranteeing will be first page? Are you guaranteeing my organic listing will be first page in google, or are you saying that a Google adword will be first page in google, or are you guaranteeing something else. because (and this iss notacusing you of being a fraudster etc) you proposition is NOT CLEAR

 

[Advert World]

Users of google will see your website in sponsored links.

Probably for trusted companies we could offer payment after service...

 

[directmarketingadvice]

2.We don't using adwords to provide our services, we cooperating with company which is close to Google, I can't say anything more, it is our little business secret

Nah. This is just nonsense.

I manage adwords accounts in different markets - including some markets where you'd have to pay £5 or more just to get a page 1 listing.

So, at £5 per click, £299 would buy you 60 clicks. With a good ad, you'll get more than 300 clicks a month, so that would mean you're selling clicks at under £1 each i.e. less than 20% of normal cost.

And, you're saying you're able to do that?

And the reason why you're able to do this is that there's a company google does business with where google are happy to sell them clicks for under 20% of the normal cost?

...and, as that company presumably takes a cut, that would mean that google are happy to throw away more than 80% of their profit... and they'll do that in any market?

Can you see why this sounds like a load of bollox?

I'd advise anyone reading this thread to remember there are no free lunches in this world and give you a wide berth.

Because what you're saying and what you will do are clearly two different things.

Steve

 

[OldWelshGuy]

Users of google will see your website in sponsored links.

Probably for trusted companies we could offer payment after service...

Now THIS is where all the confusion and distrust of your offer has come in, because on the very first page of this thread you stated

We don't using adwords to provide our services, we cooperating with company which is close to Google, I can't say anything more, it is our little business secret , but of course everything is legally, with VAT and other stuff.

The listings in the 'sponsored listings' area of the Google SERP's ARE AdWords listings. Previously you stated you don't use adwords, now you are stating you DO use AdWords listings. Do you see why there is such distrust now?

I am not being aggressive here, but we deal with this sort of thing day in day out on these forums and by Pm/email.

Are you saying that you offer an AdWords brokering service, because that is (finally) how it appears to be.

Added, I cross posted with Steve above.

 

[Advert World]

Finally it will be the same service like adwords, in same place like sponsored link in 1st page in Google.co.uk, but 24 hours per 30 days...

I know that it can be little confusing but .

For good example and good future in UKBF maybe we will think about some promotions for trusted users of UKBF and they will pay after first month, and than we will come back to that conversation.

If anyone will be interested this offer please send PM, and in next one or two weeks we will propose the same offer but with payment after 1 month if everything will be ok...

What are you thinking about that ? Anyone who wants try us ?

 

[Deleted member 27344]

So it's not adwords but it is adwords and only on google.co.uk, not on Google.com

And you still haven't answered my questions:

Please post here 3 real life examples of real client's sites that you have got to number 1 and the keywords used.

Edit - Oh, and what is your company URL and where is that placed on Google.com when I search for 'google number 1'?

 

[infiniteseo]

Sorry to be blatent but... what a absolute load of crap this guy is talking.

 

[directmarketingadvice]

I know that it can be little confusing but

That's a good idea. Put a wink at the end of your sentence.

Everyone is suggesting your offer sounds shifty, so you use the universal sign of shiftiness (the wink)... thus making yourself seem more shifty.

Well played.

What are you thinking about that ? Anyone who wants try us ?

Don't touch this guy's offer with a bargepole. It doesn't add up.

Steve

 

[infiniteseo]

Finally it will be the same service like adwords, in same place like sponsored link in 1st page in Google.co.uk, but 24 hours per 30 days...

I know that it can be little confusing but .

For good example and good future in UKBF maybe we will think about some promotions for trusted users of UKBF and they will pay after first month, and than we will come back to that conversation.

If anyone will be interested this offer please send PM, and in next one or two weeks we will propose the same offer but with payment after 1 month if everything will be ok...

What are you thinking about that ? Anyone who wants try us ?

Sorry pal, but your spamming the wrong forum, this is a place for successful business owners, you know - people with more than half a brain cell. Your talking a load of rubbish, and your english sucks.

 

[OldWelshGuy]

Finally it will be the same service like adwords, in same place like sponsored link in 1st page in Google.co.uk, but 24 hours per 30 days...

I know that it can be little confusing but .

Not confusing in the least i think AT LAST I have got the truth out of you.

The deal is people pay you £299 a month. You guarantee them first page on google.co.uk in the sponsored listings section of AdWords.

The 'magic ingredient' is though that in fact you are ONLY guaranteeing them first page for 24 hours (ONE DAY) every 30 days.

I have it now.