£250 charge to migrate website hosting.

Porky

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    Quotation = I will deliver this to you for x price
    Estimate = should be able to deliver this job for X price but it’s an estimate and may take longer depending on hours/ parts etc

    Problem you have here is that in moving the site to a new hosted servers is there may be significant work, changes to the code for it to work in its new environment

    We have no idea what it was previously running on. Did this guy do the original website build or was he just hosting it for you? But whatever the case the guy offers you the service on his terms.

    My advice would be talk to the guy say you need your site sorted, you have a tight budget. You really didn’t want it exceeding £250 can he give you some assurances it will still be in this region and try and button him down on price.

    He should have so idea by now how long to complete
     
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    Justin Smith

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    If you are still with ionos you have achieved nothing. Moving to vps won’t fix anything.
    TBH the site was reasonably quick on the front end (i.e. just flicking from page to page when not logged in) before, but it was very slow for some stuff when logged in e.g. accessing orders or editing pages. It is definitely significantly faster for the latter how
     
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    Justin Smith

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    Quotation = I will deliver this to you for x price
    Estimate = should be able to deliver this job for X price but it’s an estimate and may take longer depending on hours/ parts etc
    Problem you have here is that in moving the site to a new hosted servers is there may be significant work, changes to the code for it to work in its new environment
    We have no idea what it was previously running on. Did this guy do the original website build or was he just hosting it for you? But whatever the case the guy offers you the service on his terms.
    My advice would be talk to the guy say you need your site sorted, you have a tight budget. You really didn’t want it exceeding £250 can he give you some assurances it will still be in this region and try and button him down on price.
    He should have so idea by now how long to complete
    My advice would be talk to the guy say you need your site sorted, you have a tight budget. You really didn’t want it exceeding £250 can he give you some assurances it will still be in this region and try and button him down on price.

    You are right there, I should have done.

    Problem you have here is that in moving the site to a new hosted servers is there may be significant work, changes to the code for it to work in its new environment
    We have no idea what it was previously running on.


    It's a Wordpress site. He set up the basic site and taught me how to use the Software for £2k (or whatever it was) then I added 99% of it after that. I originally created it on Webplus before and it needed "upgrading" to mobile friendly (don't even get me on that....) "to keep its Google ranking".
    As I understand it it was hosted on his server account with Ionos, now it's on mine with Ionos.
     
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    fisicx

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    As an aside, does storing old orders on Woocommerce slow it all down when accessing the back end of a Wordpress site ?
    If so is there an away of archiving them ?
    Woocommerce is always slow when logged in. Yes, it does pull a load of data when accessing old orders.
     
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    Russ Michaels

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    The guy who helps me with my website (and has always hosted it using his account at the hosts) has advised me my site has grown sufficiently that I need a faster hosting service,which I agree with as it is becoming a bit slow. Because I am also concerned what would ever happen if he ever "fell under a bus", he has also advised me to pay for the hosting directly, and I think he us right on that too. He also said it'd be cheaper if I dealt directly with the host provider. However, I was a bit shocked when he said there would be a £250 fee to sort out the "VPS account sign-up, setup and then the migration". Is it a big job and is £250 reasonable ?
    Lastly will a faster hosting service significantly speed it up ? And is speed still a ranking signal with Google ?
    it really depends on where it is being migrated from/to and how much work is involved.
    some migrations will be easy and effortless, while others will be a total nightmare and will have lots of issues due to the site having lots of things out of date, running on an old PHP version, incompatibilities between hosts and problems with the new host.

    Godaddy would be a prime example. Every time I migrate a client to GoDaddy it is a nightmare and this always go wrong and break and their support is incompetent and useless. So I now have to charge a lot more if someone wants to move to GoDaddy as it usually takes many more hours of troubleshooting and dealing with GoDaddy support.

    Your other option is to just do it by the hour and pay only for how much work is actually required.

    Some hosts do offer a free migration.
     
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    Russ Michaels

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    As I said in an earlier post: it smells like incompetence.

    None of the issues you listed should ever happen. Migrations and redirects are instant. If Google visited the site while it was down your ranking will be affected. And it can take months to recover everything.

    If you are still with ionos you have achieved nothing. Moving to vps won’t fix anything.
    this is incorrect.
    after a migration, it can take up to 48 hours for DNS changes to propagate.
     
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