UK consultant for an Italian registered organisation

Global Y · Apr 30, 2019

Someone resident and working in UK has been engaged to do a piece of work as a registered free lance for a global charity that is registered in Italy. The charity does not have a physical presence in Italy and is in essence a virtual organisation as it does not have staff or office space. The person concerned is registered with HMRC and awaiting their UTR number. The charity understands and recognises the person in UK will be obliged to submit tax and other financial details to HMRC. However, the Italian legal representative suggests that this person needs to submit their VAT number even though they do not need to register for VAT. We feel that submitting their UTR number should be sufficient.
I have read various issues on this relating to VAT versus to UTR for Germany and wonder if the same applies to Italy. Any advice would be gratefully received. Many thanks in advance.

obscure · May 1, 2019

This is a UK business forum. Your question is about Italian law. I very much doubt that you will find anyone here with the necessary Italian legal/tax experience.

Even if someone here says that they just submitted their UTR to an Italian firm it doesn't mean that the Italian lawyer is wrong. The other company may actually have been wrong or the law may have changed.

If you want to correct a mistake/change their minds I think you will need to have more that "someone in a forum told me". Get proper advise from an experienced accountant/lawyer that deals with Italian or UK/Italian tax law.

Global Y · May 1, 2019

Thanks for that. We are getting advice from an Italian legal representative. However, I was asking about the rights and obligations of the UK worker in relation to Italian law. I assume that being part of the European Union, no matter how tenuous it may appear to be at the moment, does have some mutual understanding and agreements in place for just such an instance.

Newchodge · May 1, 2019

Global Y said:
Thanks for that. We are getting advice from an Italian legal representative. However, I was asking about the rights and obligations of the UK worker in relation to Italian law. I assume that being part of the European Union, no matter how tenuous it may appear to be at the moment, does have some mutual understanding and agreements in place for just such an instance.

If you need information in relation to Italian law you have to speak to a specialist in Italian law. It is that simple.

Global Y · May 1, 2019

So, I am to gather form these two replies that the UK worker has no rights at all and that they need to defer to Italian law even though they have never stepped into Italy.

Newchodge · May 1, 2019

You stated "However, I was asking about the rights and obligations of the UK worker in relation to Italian law"

Global Y · May 1, 2019

Yes, I guess that was badly phrased. There is Italian law which the charity needs to comply with, and there are the rights and obligations of the UK worker. Just trying to ascertain if there is some EU that sheds light on this.

Scalloway · May 1, 2019

For VAT purposes the need to register depends on the place the service is supplied. If you’re providing general rule services and your customer is VAT registered, the place of supply is the EU country where your customer is established. More information on Italian VAT here.

http://www.brighton-accountants.com/blog/vat-register-italy/

Global Y · May 1, 2019

Fabulous. This is really helpful. Many thanks to you.

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