I doubt it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Starmer's team that released these photos.
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Bye bye Boris?
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I doubt it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Starmer's team that released these photos.
I note the Guardian doesn't mention it on the front page of their website either. All the other papers seem to though.
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I believe the papers and the BBC have different rules (which does not cover the Guardian's omission), i know the BBC has to walk a very very thin tightrope during election periods, if they interview someone from 1 party they have to give a fair time to every other party involved etc etc, so they tend to just steer clear of most issues
Other than the most recent accusation by a female Tory minister (which is cross party as it is talking about the working environment for all female MP's) you will notice nothing on the BBC politics page is from today
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I presume that you'll be as upset about the fact that Starmer and Rayner have been found to be doing much the same thing at the same time and you'll be calling for them to resign as well?
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I would. Can you expand, Nick, explain when either of them were found to be doing much the same thing? I haven't heard of any police fines against either of them.
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Angela Rayner was at a lockdown event with Starmer
Labour says no Covid rules were broken at the event, where Sir Keir Starmer was filmed drinking a beer.
www.bbc.co.uk
Police are reinvestigating, and the Labour party have admitted it was an "honest mistake" when they said repeatedly that she wasn't there.
I find it hard to understand how they didn't realise that the deputy leader was there.
If the police don't fine someone, does that mean the rules weren't broken?
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No, Durham police say they don't investigate and fine retrospectively, which is not the same as saying no offence was committed.
Met police had a similar policy but made an exception for BJ/10 Downing St. I think Khan'ts fingerprints would be found in that decision somewhere.
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It's now on the BBC:
www.bbc.co.uk
Angela Rayner was at a lockdown event with Starmer
Labour says no Covid rules were broken at the event, where Sir Keir Starmer was filmed drinking a beer.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Sorry, but the photo in that article clearly shows the look of love! ?It's now on the BBC:
Angela Rayner was at a lockdown event with Starmer
Labour says no Covid rules were broken at the event, where Sir Keir Starmer was filmed drinking a beer.
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The retrospective issue is down to the nature of a fixed penalty notice. They were put in place for police to issue in place of arresting people, for relatively low level crimes, and to reduce court time. The principle is if the police catch you doing something AT THE TIME, and you admit it, you can accept a FPN rather than go to court. This also means you don't have a criminal record.
They were never intended as a tool for the police to use at a later date. The reason the Met (and other forces) didn't want to go down this route is it sets a precedent for when an FPN is issued.
They were never intended as a tool for the police to use at a later date. The reason the Met (and other forces) didn't want to go down this route is it sets a precedent for when an FPN is issued.
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It's now on the BBC:
Angela Rayner was at a lockdown event with Starmer
Labour says no Covid rules were broken at the event, where Sir Keir Starmer was filmed drinking a beer.
I find it really odd that Rayner would see a statement issued that said she wasn't there, and not try to correct the record. I quite like her as a person (she's very funny when not being overly political), but this looks like a stupid mistake.
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Now that's an odd story. Apparently that's been going round for a while, there's memes about it and Rayner herself has spoken about it in public, on stage. Then the MOS run the story and get all sorts of grief for it.
(not defending the MOS, as it's generally an awful rag)
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So what you are saying is that AR is a secret weapon and putting a good-looking woman right opposite this over-sexed toad is a deliberate ploy to distract him. (It's a good job that Starmer cannot be similarly distracted by looking at the government's front bench!)
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Absolutely not. The deputy leader of the Labour party sits on the opposition front bench. I am saying that theTories, by spinning this garbage are actually acknowledging that they believe they have a leader who is led by his knob. So they believe this country is led by a knob. One of the first things they have been right about for a long time.
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Correct, and where it all falls apart.
Standing at the dispatch box Boris would not have a line of sight to her legs. There is a table in the way.
More likely this story was spun by Labour to distract from #Durhampartygate.
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Or they're saying that's what Labour believe. Which they do.
You can spin this story to suit whatever prejudice you like.
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Other MPs who heard her boasting about it. Search #gingergrowler or #growlergate on Twitter.
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This is what the BBC has to say about it:
www.bbc.co.uk
Labour dismisses Tory claims about Angela Rayner as 'smear'
It rejects allegations that its deputy leader "initiated" a story about distracting the PM in Parliament.
www.bbc.co.uk
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You're quite right. Sorry, I was referring to Rayner. I've updated my post to clarify.
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But of course, referring to the current Prime Minister as a "toad" reflects very well on yourself!
People in glass houses ...
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Angela Rayner deserves everything she gets.
She has brought this entire squalid situation upon herself.
She was the one who brought the nation's attention to her "ginger growler", the very thought of which, incidentally, I find thoroughly disgusting.
I think Angela Rayner is a vulgar little scrubber - uncivilised and crude without two nerve cells to rub together, and I hope she never has the opportunity to disgrace our fine offices of government.
She has brought this entire squalid situation upon herself.
She was the one who brought the nation's attention to her "ginger growler", the very thought of which, incidentally, I find thoroughly disgusting.
I think Angela Rayner is a vulgar little scrubber - uncivilised and crude without two nerve cells to rub together, and I hope she never has the opportunity to disgrace our fine offices of government.
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Just remember that Rayner was seen as Corbyn's natural successor. That should tell you something.
More worrying is that our politicians - the whole gamut of them, whether it be red, blue, yellow or puce, are spending more time arguing about the events in Westminster rather than getting on with the business of running the country.
And slinging insults like "an out-of-touch government" or "when the opposition was in power" is NOT running the country. I would actually like to see a debate on the merits or otherwise of policy, substantiated by facts not rhetoric, for a change.
More worrying is that our politicians - the whole gamut of them, whether it be red, blue, yellow or puce, are spending more time arguing about the events in Westminster rather than getting on with the business of running the country.
And slinging insults like "an out-of-touch government" or "when the opposition was in power" is NOT running the country. I would actually like to see a debate on the merits or otherwise of policy, substantiated by facts not rhetoric, for a change.
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