Snake Oil?
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I agree 100%.
If new people join the forum and see so many key members don't think paid membership is worth it, what signal does that send out?
Steve
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JohnnyCash
Off the top of my head, theres only one member I can think of that deserves a free upgrade - but anyway, enough talk about me...
I don't want to put the spotlight on any particular person but there are multiple people who are posting on ukbf at a massive rate, with a completely blatant (and free) advert in every post. Just seems like it would be good business sense to make them pay 10p a day or whatever... with their prolific posting its not like it wouldn't be worth it.
I think no matter how good value something is... unless you actually force them to pay then a large percentage of them simply won't.
I don't want to put the spotlight on any particular person but there are multiple people who are posting on ukbf at a massive rate, with a completely blatant (and free) advert in every post. Just seems like it would be good business sense to make them pay 10p a day or whatever... with their prolific posting its not like it wouldn't be worth it.
I think no matter how good value something is... unless you actually force them to pay then a large percentage of them simply won't.
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I am not a paid member because I do not use the forum to promote my business; if I did I would join without hesitation.
To my mind advertising in the signature by free members devalues the advertising that full members have paid for the privilege of having in their signature.
Why does a successful SEO need to circumvent the rules to save what amounts to less than 10p a day?
It's because I am not a full member that I have no further recourse other than to point out to the perpetrator that I think he is bang out of order.
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MASSEY
I think it is a complete non argument.
The people who "free load" make ukbusinessforums profit from page views and adsense etc. Without traffic this site would lose money. If you turn away "free loaders" with harsh shitty rules about no sig advertising it will be bad for them in the long run.
The full membership is more geared up for people who are in the following;
I don't see non live sig ads as an issue.
The people who "free load" make ukbusinessforums profit from page views and adsense etc. Without traffic this site would lose money. If you turn away "free loaders" with harsh shitty rules about no sig advertising it will be bad for them in the long run.
The full membership is more geared up for people who are in the following;
- Think the signature link is really really good seo and worth the 48 quid. (in reality it's worth about as much as a $10 profile blast.)
- Want people on the forum to visit their site. People are more inclined to click a live link than research a non link advert
- Use the private forums and the web review section.
I don't see non live sig ads as an issue.
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Its also kind of ironic that people who claim to have the moral high ground are the same people that have drawn out this thread to five pages of irrelevant nonsense to the poor original guy who asked the question.
Whereas the 'accused' have addressed his original question with a legitimate response. Remind me which one is spam again?
Oops here comes my sig again
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Whereas the 'accused' have addressed his original question with a legitimate response. Remind me which one is spam again?
Oops here comes my sig again
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JohnnyCash
But you didn't though!
Ok then Einstein... post the PM that I sent you asking for more "info and examples"
Otherwise you're just another spammer who is wrong, agreed?
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They're not "circumventing the rules", they're following the rules. You just happen to disagree with the rules.
On a personal note, I'm not sure I'm going to continue as a paid member when it's time to decide. It's not about the money, it's to do with how little the forum is doing for its paid members.
Steve
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MASSEY
Nitro deals in high pr blog comments. This is why he'll be reluctant to engage via pm with all the blog comment controversy.
Last time i tested do follow blog links were of benefit. No follow blog links are of no benefit.
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Now thats a discussion all in itself mate. I use many do-follow blogrolls but no-follows do have benefit in the way it makes your link profile look more natural if nothing else.
Also wikipedia is an awesome no-folow.
ETA: he hasnt sent me a PM!
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MASSEY
But why would you think wiki have value when google said turn no follow on?
I had a homepage pr8 link no follow on a high educational site, did absolutely nothing.
I had a pr5 do follow blog comment on the bbc website boosted me massively (then someone reported the blogs and they were removed)
.The way they do hold value is in a link profile google will look for social signals which will be no follow. This is the only way for me they are of value.
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Hi - not sure if this helps, but we started doing SEO on our website in January, we DONT spend £1200 per month (infact we spend a fraction of that), we use a SEO who is a member here, and we now appear in position 1 for 8 of the 10 most popular terms in our niche.
If you'd like any more info, or to get his contact details simply send me a PM.
Either way, best of luck.
Bobby.
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Always useful to name them if they wish.?
The world seems desperately short of good snake oil salesman.
Earl
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juji
If you have a landing pages that convert (I'm assuming your selling online) or at least generate leads then quality, targeted SEO is a perfect step to take.
This of course needs to be ongoing, so spending for two months and then leaving it is out of the question.
You will need to have an ongoing monthly, daily, SEO strategy.
I imagine a lot of people on here can help you.
This of course needs to be ongoing, so spending for two months and then leaving it is out of the question.
You will need to have an ongoing monthly, daily, SEO strategy.
I imagine a lot of people on here can help you.
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Snake oil salesmen prosper because of the number of businesses with zero effort websites.
To consider all SEO as hokum is naive IMHO. A website with useful content, correctly built pages and links to demonstrate authority will rank in search results.
d
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No its much better to hang it out for as long as possible.
Yeah, why have sales 2 months from now, when you could wait another year or two?
Steve
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Your better off taking that 1200 quid spreading it across a year so £100 a month, turning it into 5 quality articles a month and smashing them on myblogguest.
Then cherry picking your offers from the results given from SEOMOZ's opensite explorer.
That's your SEO campaign for the next year sorted.
Then cherry picking your offers from the results given from SEOMOZ's opensite explorer.
That's your SEO campaign for the next year sorted.
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JohnnyCash
You don't need to see the site to know spending only £1200 via a 3rd party is going to be a total waste of money.
If you only have £1200 to spend you're going to need to squeeze every last drop of value out of it as possible. And MBG, cheap content and links is by far the best way to do that.
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I'm sorry you disagree with my SEO advice Ali, but he was asking how to dominate the rankings for his industries search term.
If he managed to get each article produced for £15 then he has potentially got an opportunity of building 80 backlinks from relative blogs/websites, not to forget the chance of picking up some email subscriptions/facebook likes as a source for remarketing not to forget some social signals.
If the articles are good then those blogs will also pick up facebook likes and social exposure which brings those backlinks some good link juice as well.
But I guess each to there own you stick with your methods and ill stick with mine.
If he managed to get each article produced for £15 then he has potentially got an opportunity of building 80 backlinks from relative blogs/websites, not to forget the chance of picking up some email subscriptions/facebook likes as a source for remarketing not to forget some social signals.
If the articles are good then those blogs will also pick up facebook likes and social exposure which brings those backlinks some good link juice as well.
But I guess each to there own you stick with your methods and ill stick with mine.
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For £1200? That's a lot of money for a load of trash.Even better buy 1 article and spin it 80 times
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MASSEY
Who do you get to write for you?
Also, do you just get them to write about anything, mainly popular topics and get your link put in at the end.
I would presume you would have to pick something a bit interesting rather than something about a commercial niche no one cares for....
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