New Business

[VertigoProductions]

Hi Guyz,

I launched my business around 3 weeks ago, we are a video production company and i was hoping to have feedback on what you guyz think of our business so far.
Heres our logo (done by our in-house graphic designer) :

Facebook Fanpage (Launched 3 days ago):
http://www.facebook.com/vertigovideo

Twitter (Launched yesterday):
http://www.twitter.com/vertigovideos

Youtube (Launched 1 week ago):
http://www.youtube.com/vertigoproductions1

Thank you,
Charlie, Vertigo Productions
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[Drpepper]

Is there a website?

 

[oldeagleeye]

Sorry don't get the industrial crane and military font. Don't get no web site either and certainly don't get a moving avatar. I would have thought that any promotion would feature a professional human keen to get the message across that you listen to to and understand what the customer wants.

Good luck anyway but sorry first impressions 1 out of 10.

Rob

 

[papverpoppies]

Is it me, but with that logo I thought you were a crane hire comany or similar.
I would never have guessed video production.

Sorry if its me and an age thing

Poppy xx

 

[papverpoppies]

Sorry don't get the industrial crane and military font. Don't get no web site either and certainly don't get a moving avatar. I would have thought that any promotion would feature a professional human keen to get the message across that you listen to to and understand what the customer wants.

Good luck anyway but sorry first impressions 1 out of 10.

Rob

Not just me then - thank gawd for that

Poppy xx

 

[VertigoProductions]

lol... the crane is bcus its Vertigo the website is on its way but its hard to make a good site for our type of company and what we have asked the 1 guy whos doing the website to do

 

[Scott-Copywriter]

You're going to struggle to get any business if you refer to people as 'guyz'. Please stop.

lol... the crane is bcus its Vertigo the website is on its way but its hard to make a good site for our type of company and what we have asked the 1 guy whos doing the website to do

Weak connections like this won't work. The logo is for your prospective customers, and they will see what they see regardless of what you think. It isn't right just because you've managed to somehow associate a crane with height and therefore vertigo. It looks like it has something to do with construction and it always will in the eyes of customers.

 

[VertigoProductions]

You're going to struggle to get any business if you refer to people as 'guyz'. Please stop.



Weak connections like this won't work. The logo is for your prospective customers, and they will see what they see regardless of what you think. It isn't right just because you've managed to somehow associate a crane with height and therefore vertigo. It looks like it has something to do with construction and it always will in the eyes of customers.

Well to be fair... im getting quite a bit of business and i don't refer to any of my customers as guyz, im more formal in formal situations but this is a discussion forum where you can be informal and its a friendly (somtimes competitive) enviroment...

 

[360interactive]

The logo is very 'busy' and I don't really see a link between the logo and your area of business. Vertigo is a negative experience, why pick it for your business name? (I suspect it is because you think it sounds good)

Also, how old are you? I hate people using LOL, bcus and guyz, it makes you sound like a child.

It's also not a business yet is it? It's a logo, a twitter account and a blank facebook page. Where is your website?

 

[Virtual Night Owl]

I think it is a good logo, however, it doesn't say to me 'video production company'. I understand the logo may represent the name of the company 'Vertigo Productions' but it doesn't show what sort of company you are or your business.

 

[BizGurl]

At first glance, the logo gave me thoughts of some kind of crane that perhaps goes clubbing (the colourful sun burst type background).
I think it's a bit too complicated for a logo. Perhaps try and simplify it down to just one icon and some text, and stick with one or two colours.
I'd personally get rid of the crane idea altogether tbh. Looks more like a confused construction company rather than a video production company.

 

[VertigoProductions]

Like i;ve said now 2 times, the website is on its way but we can only afford to pay 1 guy for it so its coming very slowly as we've requested that he makes an amazing design with complimenting code script and a background CMS...

 

[Scott-Copywriter]

Well to be fair... im getting quite a bit of business and i don't refer to any of my customers as guyz, im more formal in formal situations but this is a discussion forum where you can be informal and its a friendly (somtimes competitive) enviroment...

You've said 'guyz' twice on your Facebook account, once on Twitter and at least a few times on your Youtube account.

As for the logo, I don't care how much business you're getting. You asked for feedback on your logo and we're giving it to you straight.

 

[BizGurl]

You've said 'guyz' twice on your Facebook account, once on Twitter and at least a few times on your Youtube account.

As for the logo, I don't care how much business you're getting. You asked for feedback on your logo and we're giving it to you straight.

Ouch!

True though.

 

[360interactive]

OK, I've just viewed a few of your videos on youtube, a few more points:

1 - Are you serving the US, the UK, or worldwide? Using an American accent in your intro will put a lot of UK clients off.

2 - I'm not seeing any evidence of real video production, just a few intro pieces that can be put together by anyone with simple video editing software and a few hours training.

3 - Have you looked into the legal aspects of using artists within the work you produce for others?

It may look like i'm unfairly pulling you apart, but these are things that your potential clients will be thinking.

 

[VertigoProductions]

Ouch!

True though.

I can take it

Im a gamer and the forums on there are about 25X worse then this

But i had it coming 4 not explaining myself clearly... im looking for feedback on my company in general... not just our logo but our actual productions and what we've done so far...

 

[VertigoProductions]

OK, I've just viewed a few of your videos on youtube, a few more points:

1 - Are you serving the US, the UK, or worldwide? Using an American accent in your intro will put a lot of UK clients off.

2 - I'm not seeing any evidence of real video production, just a few intro pieces that can be put together by anyone with simple video editing software and a few hours training.

3 - Have you looked into the legal aspects of using artists within the work you produce for others?

It may look like i'm unfairly pulling you apart, but these are things that your potential clients will be thinking.

Its fine...

1) We work worldwide and our voice over actor can do a british accent as well as many others.

2) Yes, the currenct pieces are there to start with as we only just set-up we are just now getting the machines to produce top notch work... you'll see it on our youtube over the next few days..

3) We only use song music in our non-profit videos which is allowed... (we use bought licensed music for our profitable work)

 

[Cobby]

I like the logo. With the combination of the name and the logo, it's easy enough to decipher that it's a media company of some sort. Video production may not automatically spring to mind but would be easily associated with it once you're known, and as a company names/logos in your industry go, I've heard and seen worse.

 

[360interactive]

Its fine...

1) We work worldwide and our voice over actor can do a british accent as well as many others.

2) Yes, the currenct pieces are there to start with as we only just set-up we are just now getting the machines to produce top notch work... you'll see it on our youtube over the next few days..

3) We only use song music in our non-profit videos which is allowed... (we use bought licensed music for our profitable work)

You're attitude to the barrage of comments is admirable!

Just be careful regarding the use of artists, your Katy Perry one looks like it is used for a profit making company? Just because you didn't charge for the intro, doesn't make it legal for them to use it.

 

[ShortCouture]

I have to agree with others, the logo does say construction, no way does it suggest video. I'm also wondering why you chose Vertigo - it's not a nice thing. But having chosen it why not stick with the word Video with it instead of 'productions' which is non specific. Vertigo Videos alliterates nicely and has the product in the name which makes it nice and obvious. Whilst YOU know what you mean by 'productions', your prospective customers (who sell widgets) know nothing about video.

Sounds as though you';ve given your web designer a big task. You may be better off launching with a simple site (which is much quicker) and adding to it as you go along and find what works. It would be a shame to spend a lot of time and money on a site and then find that maybe half the design doesn't work well. Again - don't forget that your customers are not video people, they sell all sorts of things but not video - so the web site has to work for them -not for you.

Your FB page doesn;t say what you do "We produce user friendly and exciting productions for a affordable cost and fantastic quality" (sic) what does that mean? Say it plainly not in meaningless speak.

The YouTube page looks as though you make animated vids with amercian voiceovers. If you do anything else then make it clear.

You really need to get the website up though. It doesn't look like a company until there is a decent website (with all the legal requirements/company info) and details on what you make.

Let us know when the site is up. (although vertigoproductions.co.uk is gone - another reason to think of a name change).

These posts may sound a bit negative - but we are trying to help.

 

[saxondale]

Sorry don't get the industrial crane and military font. Don't get no web site either and certainly don't get a moving avatar. I would have thought that any promotion would feature a professional human keen to get the message across that you listen to to and understand what the customer wants.

Good luck anyway but sorry first impressions 1 out of 10.

Rob

and thats too generous .............

 

[saxondale]

Well to be fair... im getting quite a bit of business ...

I`ll bet your not.



it`s not a discussion forum - its a world wide advert for your company ....... stop been so defensive and take a step back


why do you think the pukka guyz all post incognito.

 

[VertigoProductions]

I`ll bet your not.



it`s not a discussion forum - its a world wide advert for your company ....... stop been so defensive and take a step back


why do you think the pukka guyz all post incognito.

Well i can show you our latest completed job and in 3 weeks we've made a couple $100's especially over the christmas period where its hard as most clients wouldn't be online they'd be away for the holidays...

 

[Scott-Copywriter]

Well i can show you our latest completed job and in 3 weeks we've made a couple $100's especially over the christmas period where its hard as most clients wouldn't be online they'd be away for the holidays...

You must be young then if you think $200 over three weeks is quite a bit of business.

No harm in that of course, but $200 is nothing really over that length of time. I'd say you were earning a fair start-up amount if you multiply that figure by 10.

 

[saxondale]

Well i can show you our latest completed job and in 3 weeks we've made a couple $100's especially over the christmas period where its hard as most clients wouldn't be online they'd be away for the holidays...

dear god, to quote Barbera "and for that reason ...........I`m out"

 

[VertigoProductions]

You must be young then if you think $200 over three weeks is quite a bit of business.

No harm in that of course, but $200 is nothing really over that length of time. I'd say you were earning a fair start-up amount if you multiply that figure by 10.

No i said a couple heres just 1 of our jobs...

So far we've done 3 jobs and are in interviews for 4 others...

 

[saxondale]

No i said a couple heres just 1 of our jobs...

So far we've done 3 jobs and are in interviews for 4 others...

be careful - cease and desist letters coming -


http://www.vertigoproductions.org/

http://www.vertigo.co.uk/

http://www.vertigotheatreproductions.co.uk/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_Production

http://www.vertigocd.com/design.htm


last ones favourite.

 

[VertigoProductions]

be careful - cease and desist letters coming -


http://www.vertigoproductions.org/

http://www.vertigo.co.uk/

http://www.vertigotheatreproductions.co.uk/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_Production

http://www.vertigocd.com/design.htm


last ones favourite.

Yes, its a bit of an overused name but if we marekt our company right and our in-house web designer makes our site SEO perfect and we spend enough on advertising it should be fine...

 

[saxondale]

Yes, its a bit of an overused name but if we marekt our company right and our in-house web designer makes our site SEO perfect and we spend enough on advertising it should be fine...

how to alienate the rest of the forum in one post - listen, it isn`t fine ....... top right search button and look for "passing off, copyright and trademark"





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[VertigoProductions]

how to alienate the rest of the forum in one post - listen, it isn`t fine ....... top right search button and look for "passing off"

Its my business and we can't go changing the name now we're too established over 100,000 people have seen our logo and brand name so its to late now...

 

[saxondale]

http://www.odesk.com/jobs/Video-Production-Agency-Website-Creation-SEO_~~c949a672f3f9b4e5?source=rss#reloaded

 

[VertigoProductions]

http://www.odesk.com/jobs/Video-Production-Agency-Website-Creation-SEO_~~c949a672f3f9b4e5?source=rss#reloaded

well done we've now hired somone not from odesk.... as you can see no-ones been hired...
he's doing all the web design projects for us as an in-house designer...

 

[saxondale]

well done we've now hired somone not from odesk.... as you can see no-ones been hired...
he's doing all the web design projects for us as an in-house designer...

right, lets start at the start, and see if we can save you some money (if someone ever decides to answer your advert for a website) - what do you know about choosing a company name?


clue - you cannot have the same name as someone else in your industry

 

[Scott-Copywriter]

No i said a couple heres just 1 of our jobs...

So far we've done 3 jobs and are in interviews for 4 others...

A 'couple' means two. So if you've had a couple of $100 jobs, you've had two.

If you've had more than that, great, but it's still irrelevant.

Yes, its a bit of an overused name but if we marekt our company right and our in-house web designer makes our site SEO perfect and we spend enough on advertising it should be fine...

Its my business and we can't go changing the name now we're too established over 100,000 people have seen our logo and brand name so its to late now...

That makes no difference. I don't think you understand. Businesses have trademarks, and if you copy another businesses name then they won't be happy and they could quite easily start legal action against you. This isn't helped by the fact that already-established businesses also offer the exact same services.

You need to be careful because you could end up in some serious trouble (that's if anyone chooses to take you seriously).

 

[saxondale]

A 'couple' means two. So if you've had a couple of $100 jobs, you've had two.

If you've had more than that, great, but it's still irrelevant.





That makes no difference. I don't think you understand. Businesses have trademarks, and if you copy another businesses name then they won't be happy and they could quite easily start legal action against you. This isn't helped by the fact that already-established businesses also offer the exact same services.

You need to be careful because you could end up in some serious trouble (that's if anyone chooses to take you seriously).

careful Scot, your messing with the "Charlinator" ............ just finding out how old he is.

 

[saxondale]

okay Charlie - it ends here

"Hey guyz,

This is an in-depth introduction (9 mins long) about what we will be doing and everything that is going to happen in the channel also at then end i talk about us needing some people for specific jobs PM me if you can offer those kinda skills.

About my voice

im only 14 and my voice hasnt quite broken ....."

please stop wasting everybodies time




http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/en/forum/showthread.php?tid=171186&highlight=legends




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[oldeagleeye]

Come on Charlie you told a porky pie didn't you and got caught out and you have a whole lot worse coming if you don't listen to Saxon and others about the law in passing off. In plain terms trying to capitalise on any businesses reputation.

I don't see where you get this can't change name because 100,000 peiple have seen your logo. That is how many that probably logged on to Facebook not your page.

Take advice change it and change it now. I would also get rid of this in-house web designer if he was the one that designed it because on that standard you web site will be crap as is you company image at present.

No-one blames you for that just starting out but I rather suspect this venture is just a bunch of students that have got together on very limited funds an think that they can compete in the professional world. YUou can't. Inoted the sort of budget you were looking at and did in fact cut and I'll paste. It is
Employer Activity on this Job:

Last Viewed ec 27, 2010Applicants:7 (avg $10.28/hr)Interviewing:1 (avg $4.58/hr)Come on now 7 applicatnts were only looking for $10 usd. You ingnored them and interviewed the one charging a paltry $4.5 dollars. That is less than 50% on the minimum wage in the UK and just another students pocket money.

The bottom line is that my advice would be to scrub this venture before lose all credibility both as a professional videoman and businessman. That you and your buddies go 3 months car cleaning or working in bars at night or whatever can earn uyou cash and save up a min of $5,000 USD. Then come back to the forum.

Members will be more than happy to reccommend a suitable trading name for a video compny and a logo & web site would cost just under $1,000 USD leaving you money for professional editing equipment and marketing.

Oh and one final bit of advice. If you are in the USA at that time. Stick to that market. In Britain customers want to sit down and discuss the script etc with the director/producer not some digital humaniod.

Rob

 

[VertigoProductions]

okay Charlie - it ends here





please stop wasting everybodies time




http://www.battlefieldheroes.com/en/forum/showthread.php?tid=171186&highlight=legends




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I never mentioned my age and actually 100,000 people have viewed our logo, 1,000 people on youtube, the 200,000 impressions of our ad on facebook and the people i've shown in to... and for a 15 year old kid to be able to create this kind of logo, video production with professional voice over and 5 employees i think i've done pretty well especially the $389 i've made from 1 job...

 

[saxondale]

and did in fact cut and I'll paste................
Rob

the bit he chopped off that cut and paste also makes good reading.

 

[saxondale]

I never mentioned my age and actually 100,000 people have viewed our logo, 1,000 people on youtube, the 200,000 impressions of our ad on facebook and the people i've shown in to... and for a 15 year old kid to be able to create this kind of logo, video production with professional voice over and 5 employees i think i've done pretty well especially the $389 i've made from 1 job...

stop it, you havn`t done anything, you havn`t 5 employees, and you havn`t earned any money ..........your just wasting every bodies time