Working late and staff meals

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  1. mdj101

    mdj101 UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Hi There.

    My wife is a teacher. She's been asked to work till 7:30 this evening so new parent can come and look around the school and speak to the teachers.

    She won't be able to come home to eat dinner before hand.

    Is the school at liberty to pay for a meal?

    She's been there since 7:30 this morning.
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: mdj101 Member since: Mar 10, 2008
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  2. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    Has she asked them to pay for food?

    Is this a short notice thing? Did your wife only find out today that she needed to stay late? Could you bring her dinner to the school?
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  3. Newchodge

    Newchodge UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    Certainly. Do you mean 'should they'?
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: Newchodge Member since: Nov 8, 2012
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  4. Mr D

    Mr D UKBF Legend Free Member

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    What does her contract say about out of hours working and meals?
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  5. Scalloway

    Scalloway UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Presumably this parental visit won't start the moment she finishes teaching? Would she have an opportunity to nip out and get a snack to keep her going?
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: Scalloway Member since: Jun 6, 2010
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  6. billybob99

    billybob99 UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Yes.

    Just leave the receipt on the headmaster's desk.
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: billybob99 Member since: Apr 23, 2013
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  7. AllUpHere

    AllUpHere UKBF Ace Free Member

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    Tell her not to worry, she's got the best part of a couple of months off soon. ;)
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: AllUpHere Member since: Jun 30, 2014
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  8. Darren_Ssc

    Darren_Ssc UKBF Regular Free Member

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    It is normal for some sort of meal allowance in such circumstances but whether the school are obliged to offer this I couldn't say? If it was a regular occurrence I would expect some formal arrangement to be in place but, for a one-off event, it's probably one of those cases where if you don't ask you don't get?
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: Darren_Ssc Member since: Mar 1, 2019
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  9. chickenlady

    chickenlady UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    If she's under the standard teacher conditions, yes, under condition 26.1 c or d (I believe but I might be wrong) but she should get it agreed beforehand and should not be being asked on the day required.
    Why on earth is it necessary? If a parent wants to see a school out of reasonable working hours, then it should be leadership's responsibility to sell it not be asking teachers to stay behind for a couple of hours on the day - that's unreasonable and it is not, imho, enhancing anyone's learning which is the purpose of 'whatever hours may be necessary'. My schools always put on a meal if we were doing a twilight session and those sessions were always planned at least a half-term ahead so we could organise our lives. If she's on leadership points, she might not have a choice but if she's just mainscale, I think I'd be coming home... I don't teach nowadays!
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: chickenlady Member since: Feb 28, 2019
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  10. simon field

    simon field UKBF Big Shot Full Member - Verified Business

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    Don't be silly, just make the poor dear some sandwiches.
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: simon field Member since: Feb 4, 2011
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  11. Root 66 Woodshop

    Root 66 Woodshop UKBF Big Shot Free Member

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    Sod that @simon field

    Order her a kebab or a Pizza delivery... watch the other teachers crumble!! :D :D
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: Root 66 Woodshop Member since: Nov 22, 2011
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  12. bodgitt&scarperLTD

    bodgitt&scarperLTD UKBF Regular Free Member

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    If she's public sector- tell the head to take a running jump. They need her more than she needs them.Any parent wanting to visit a state school at those house should be told to get real.

    If she's at a well paid private school, and the President of some African dictatorship is demanding to walk round at 19:30, she may have to suck it up.
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: bodgitt&scarperLTD Member since: Nov 26, 2018
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  13. Mr D

    Mr D UKBF Legend Free Member

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    Many schools appear to run a selling day once or twice a year, selling the school to parents of prospective students.
    Daytime and evening events and opportunity to meet the staff.
    My local infant & junior school does it such the staff aren't all there in daytime and evening. So some get a break then come in for the evening shift.
     
    Posted: Jul 2, 2019 By: Mr D Member since: Feb 12, 2017
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  14. JEREMY HAWKE

    JEREMY HAWKE UKBF Legend Full Member

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    Who pays for her meals when she is not working ?
     
    Posted: Jul 3, 2019 By: JEREMY HAWKE Member since: Mar 4, 2008
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  15. Owesdr

    Owesdr UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    I dont know if such circumstances are defined in her contract. If she has daily allowances for meals than they should also cover these circumstances. If not, she might also ask her superior if they are going to cover expenses for this sort of additional work
     
    Posted: Jul 10, 2019 By: Owesdr Member since: Nov 21, 2018
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  16. 14Steve14

    14Steve14 UKBF Enthusiast Free Member

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    My partner is a teacher at a local comprehensive and they never get meals supplied when they have to stay late after school hours for anything. If its a parents evening there is generally a time left free to allow them to get something. When they have parent visits like the OP was mentioning they get time to get something. The staffroom generally smells of takeaways or ready meals so the school tour generally misses that out. Saying that the school also uses years 12 and 13 as tour guides.
     
    Posted: Jul 10, 2019 By: 14Steve14 Member since: May 18, 2010
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  17. Mitch3473

    Mitch3473 UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Is this mumsnet or uk business forum.
     
    Posted: Jul 10, 2019 By: Mitch3473 Member since: Aug 25, 2011
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  18. UKSBD

    UKSBD Not a real duck Staff Member

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    Ask your DD, DS or OH (if she is a Mner).

    HTH
     
    Posted: Jul 10, 2019 By: UKSBD Member since: Dec 30, 2005
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  19. Susan Grey

    Susan Grey UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    If my staff have ever had to work late because i asked them i would buy them something to eat, dont know if have to but if staff willing to work late i think you should get them something.
     
    Posted: Jul 10, 2019 By: Susan Grey Member since: Jul 10, 2019
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  20. JEREMY HAWKE

    JEREMY HAWKE UKBF Legend Full Member

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    My most effective advice would be to kneel down to talk to a little person .You can look them in the eye and the message is understood clearer and it is better to both be on the same level

    Sadly the usual suspects on here with their age related health challenges may not be able to get up again :eek:
     
    Posted: Jul 10, 2019 By: JEREMY HAWKE Member since: Mar 4, 2008
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