Why this forum has moderators with double digit IQ?
- Thread starter digipoint
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I agree there’s too many adverts on this forum…all of which I ignore…probably what most would do with your advert as well.
But that’s how the forum makes money to keep going…maybe you should create your own forum and make your own rules?
Also calling out people to be polite when you just insulted everyone’s IQ….again I must be so stupid cause that don’t seem normal, nice or polite….
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We do hear you. We just don’t necessarily agree with you. Mainly because you don’t seem to understand the difference between sponsorship and ppc advertising (which helps pay for the forum) and self promotion in a post.
Nothing wrong with being boring.
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I think advising people to be Be more polite and hospitable on a post you titled:
Why this forum has moderators with double digit IQ?
is a bit rich don't you?
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OK, my fun time is over for today - off to do some garden stuff.
The serious note - you desperately need to get some education in marketing & promotion, because you clearly don't understand it.
Every one of us is 'helping/supporting ' businesses in some way - nobody believes that shouting about it isn't a poor attempt at promotion. And knocking the (supposed) competition really is the pits.
Admin did you a favour by deleting your post. At best it would have died a death, at worst would have shown you to be clueless and desperate
Wherever you choose to interact (presumably not here) you will get good business gradually, by building trust and confidence- not with desparate 'buy my stuff' posts. Case in point @tony84 - I haven't met him (nor are we in a relationship) - but if anyone is looking for a self-employed mortgage I won't hesitate to tag him, because over the months and years he has shown himself to be experienced and forthright in his field.
Other than believing your promises, what would make me introduce someone to you? (No need to answer- but think about it, because that is the very essence of marketing)
The serious note - you desperately need to get some education in marketing & promotion, because you clearly don't understand it.
Every one of us is 'helping/supporting ' businesses in some way - nobody believes that shouting about it isn't a poor attempt at promotion. And knocking the (supposed) competition really is the pits.
Admin did you a favour by deleting your post. At best it would have died a death, at worst would have shown you to be clueless and desperate
Wherever you choose to interact (presumably not here) you will get good business gradually, by building trust and confidence- not with desparate 'buy my stuff' posts. Case in point @tony84 - I haven't met him (nor are we in a relationship) - but if anyone is looking for a self-employed mortgage I won't hesitate to tag him, because over the months and years he has shown himself to be experienced and forthright in his field.
Other than believing your promises, what would make me introduce someone to you? (No need to answer- but think about it, because that is the very essence of marketing)
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A signature is irrelevant. Nobody is forcing you to click on the links. Not sure how think anyone pushes a signature onto every topic, it just sits there beneath every post. Just like on every forum everywhere.
How about we see your website….
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- Original Poster
- #48
if you are really interested - you can send DM with description of what you want (possibly with examples) - I will tell you the cost and time frame for creation.
if you are satisfied - I will start working
if not - look for someone else
But it will be as fast as possible. Not cheap. High quality.
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- Original Poster
- #50
I described everything in my post but it was deleted.
In short, I have over 17 years of experience in web development. It is not a problem to create almost any project. A lot of experience with different niches: ecommerce, aff networks, ******, etc. I do NOT work with frameworks. I do custom development with pure PHP/ Mysql/Jquery/HTML/CSS. I create everything on a turnkey basis - including back-end and front-end (if necessary). You receive a finished project.
I'm quite pleasant to work with. If I got a little angry today because of the topic being deleted, it doesn't mean I'm a "touchy child", I'm sure that's obvious.
So I repeat, to understand the complexity of the task/project, I need a full description or examples if you have any.
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- Original Poster
- #52
you won't believe it but I've had this idea more than once and maybe I'll implement it in the future. I have a lot of ideas. In my work I combine development with additional business ideas, I advise on how to do something better, etc.
As for how the forum makes money. I don't know how much Adsense brings in but I think this amount of advertising is disrespectful to the members and a little scary for new ones.
- this is a business forum, right? if the owner doesn't have a couple of hundred for a xenforo license and hosting, then what kind of business are we talking about?
- and if he has money (something more likely), then why not just don't show ads to logged in users, the forum will immediately look more serious, my opinion. I also have a bunch of ideas that come to mind to improve it, but that's not my business.
- for example, a new user wants to show the site for review - why not make it possible for him to create a topic, for example, after 10 successful (not spam) posts in other topics? I don't think that everyone will run to buy business membership for site review, and a potential new member of the community goes elsewhere
etc...a bunch of examples like this..
- also, in six months I myself created a couple of interesting startups, but to launch them I need a tidy sum for advertising, so I am ready to work now and create an interesting projects/sites for someone from scratch or rework/enlarge their existing projects
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Thanks for the advice. I know I only started this forum in February 2003, 22 years ago, so hopefully, it will still be going in a while and I'll do my best to try.
By the way, to get rid of those Ads that pay for the site upkeep they are not shown to paid members.
[EDIT]—I just saw your reply above. It sounds like you've nailed all the running costs of this site perfectly. I definitely think you should explore your ideas further and create another site because I'm a firm believer in competition to encourage innovation.
Just to add a few to the list you may have missed, Cloudflare is important, then there is the subcontract fees for developers to maintain the site, and marketing costs for social media ad campaigns, but perhaps the highest running cost is the mailing list of 100k in the monthly email newsletter; Mailchimp's fee for that is £1,200 a month to maintain such a distribution list.
You may wish to include some of these in your business plan.
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Can I ask are you a real human? like from this planet?
You don't know how much Adsense brings in? maybe just stop moaning then or find out before complaining about adverts. And yes advertising is disrespectful to members, I think that's the EXACT point the MODS were making removing your disrespectful advert.
I also asked you to DM me some examples of your work but I got more random nonsense instead of telling me what you can do for me, no examples of previous work, no social media accounts or website, nothing....
Like everyone else in this world, everyone has ideas and ways to make things better but actually doing something is a lot harder than just talking about it.
You don't know how much Adsense brings in? maybe just stop moaning then or find out before complaining about adverts. And yes advertising is disrespectful to members, I think that's the EXACT point the MODS were making removing your disrespectful advert.
Says the man complaining about having to spend a few quid to become a business member...
You told me your service isn't cheap because of the 'quality' so why should this forum be cheap?
I also asked you to DM me some examples of your work but I got more random nonsense instead of telling me what you can do for me, no examples of previous work, no social media accounts or website, nothing....
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Wow - 17 years. That's certainly rocked my guess at your age.
To be fair, you might be technically brilliant at development, but you don't yet have the business, marketing or people skills to convey your message. And real business relies far more on those skills than on technical ability.
You've thought about starting a forum? Haven't we all? I could start on in a day - without technical skills - for the cost of a few beers and a curry.
I even know how to get lots of members - just let them advertise freely. Sorted.
How long would it last? At a guess, about a month before everyone wandered off bored. dissolutioned that it's just full of self promotion. And nobody took any notice of their promotion
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- Original Poster
- #59
hmmm....
It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
How boring and confused everything is with the moralizing of boring narcissistic "gurus".
Yesterday was more fun to be honest.
btw, when I said create a forum - I meant create something interesting and unique and without advertising, and not install a ready-made script in 5 minutes. but I'm glad that you can install the script yourself at your age, it's hard not to know how)
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Let's go right back to where we started.
You are offering a web development service @digipoint. To promote this sort of service you usually need to demonstrate your skills. Here on UKBF you do that by contributing to threads or if you upgrade you can post in the marketing place and add signature links. This works well for most members and the work it generates more than covers the cost of membership. If you are as good as you say you are then people will get in touch and you will make money.
Nobody is pretending to be a guru but we all have skills that are freely shared. It up to you if you take heed of the advice.
You are offering a web development service @digipoint. To promote this sort of service you usually need to demonstrate your skills. Here on UKBF you do that by contributing to threads or if you upgrade you can post in the marketing place and add signature links. This works well for most members and the work it generates more than covers the cost of membership. If you are as good as you say you are then people will get in touch and you will make money.
Nobody is pretending to be a guru but we all have skills that are freely shared. It up to you if you take heed of the advice.
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- Original Poster
- #61
The admin talks about 100k (probably subscribers, but for 22 years it's not much, less than 5k/year)
maybe in 2008 there were more people here, but now, according to my observations, there is a small group of the same people, my topic has at least added a little activity for you. I'm glad. Note, it's free. I'm sure the statistics are falling every year, and for example 2008 and 2025 differ by tens of times, but this is natural, unfortunately.
maybe in 2008 there were more people here, but now, according to my observations, there is a small group of the same people, my topic has at least added a little activity for you. I'm glad. Note, it's free. I'm sure the statistics are falling every year, and for example 2008 and 2025 differ by tens of times, but this is natural, unfortunately.
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OK, so you're not usable for small businesses who probably wont have the skills to do anything to the site once you've made it.
And you're not suitable to bigger businesses, who can handle and even benefit from fully custom development as you appear to be a one man band and therefore can't be used for the large scale projects that would benefit from custom code?
Might explain why you have trouble with marketing.
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- Original Poster
- #63
)) Do you even understand what you're talking about? Do you understand what this is custom development? I'm sure you don't.
I've developed both large (with budget 100k+) and small projects and the owners easily manage them without any knowledge since I develop everything turnkey including the admin panel, etc. And not indian quality.
Therefore, if you are far away, and you are far away from this field, it's better to keep quiet please.
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I sold bespoke software development for years, and no £100k is not a large project.
Tell me, if a business gets a site from you, running on X version of PHP, what happens when PHP is updated and features are deprecated and then removed? What about every other tool you use?
Frameworks are updated to account for changes, but you're not using a framework, so that's no help.
Tell me, if a business gets a site from you, running on X version of PHP, what happens when PHP is updated and features are deprecated and then removed? What about every other tool you use?
Frameworks are updated to account for changes, but you're not using a framework, so that's no help.
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- Original Poster
- #69
If there was more activity on the forum and not two pensioners who will do anything for beer - I would find clients without problems.
But this is a boring place with two active boring users, who try to be clever in something they don't understand and show their wit and try to insult unsuccessfully.
Let's go - I've thrown you a new bone, at least you'll be a little more active.
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I suspect what you call a framework is somewhat different to what others call it.
An API is a framework. Laravel is a framework. There are many more. Are you saying you don’t use any of these? That every project is built from scratch without using any existing code blocks?
However…
As this forum is only used by us old crusties why do you keep returning? What are you hoping to achieve?
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- Original Poster
- #74
Guys, you are really monotonous and boring
You have the same traits (maybe not all of course but with those with whom I had to talk):
- judging what you don't understand
- sarcasm
- narcissism
- unhealthy criticism
- aggressiveness
- boring
- nitpicking
- right in everything
- no agree with anything
- do not allow another opinion
It's as if you were created by one AI, as soon as one of you writes something, the other two from the same team start singing the same mantra. Really funny.
I didn't want to ruin your idyll of self-admiration and self-praise here
I simply asked about my services and my desire to help someone with a project/website, nothing more, nothing less.
You have the same traits (maybe not all of course but with those with whom I had to talk):
- judging what you don't understand
- sarcasm
- narcissism
- unhealthy criticism
- aggressiveness
- boring
- nitpicking
- right in everything
- no agree with anything
- do not allow another opinion
It's as if you were created by one AI, as soon as one of you writes something, the other two from the same team start singing the same mantra. Really funny.
I didn't want to ruin your idyll of self-admiration and self-praise here
I simply asked about my services and my desire to help someone with a project/website, nothing more, nothing less.
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is this really a business forum?
It's the most business-like forum I've encountered.
Like any forum, what you get out of it is largely dependent on how you approach it.
The challenge for @Ozzy is the simple fact that the people with knowledge and experience tend to be older - by definition, - and from generations where you didn't have to dress advice up with hugs & platitudes - and weren't expected to suffer fools.
At the other end, many of the newcomers (with notable exceptions) don't really want advice or feedback - they only want to be told what they want to hear. Or sometimes just shabby self-promotion. And when they don't get the 'quick & easy' they either disappear in a huff, or come back with abusive threads - before storming off in a huff.
In reality it's just bridging the age-old generation gap.
Happily we all have choices...
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- Original Poster
- #77
What made you decide that your pathetic advice on topics you are a zero in is needed by anyone? Because of age or because you are bored - and you write something just to write? Age is just a number, and in most of your posts here you look very funny and stupid, despite your age. There are smart 20-year-old people and there are 70-year-old fools. According to your logic, the latter should be listened to and their advice followed because of their age.
And look - you started insulting and accusing me first. Now you pretend to be a holy sage.
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Given that I'm in the market for about 30 websites at the moment and debating whether to hire a team or outsource it, and at least one other poster actually wants a site, and you claim to make sites, you might try answering the questions to show your skills.Guys, you are really monotonous and boring
You have the same traits (maybe not all of course but with those with whom I had to talk):
- judging what you don't understand
- sarcasm
- narcissism
- unhealthy criticism
- aggressiveness
- boring
- nitpicking
- right in everything
- no agree with anything
- do not allow another opinion
It's as if you were created by one AI, as soon as one of you writes something, the other two from the same team start singing the same mantra. Really funny.
I didn't want to ruin your idyll of self-admiration and self-praise here
I simply asked about my services and my desire to help someone with a project/website, nothing more, nothing less.
So far we've established you don't make maintenance easy by using PHP frameworks and you think £100k is a large bespoke project.
So, what are you good at?
Here's your chance to link some of your sites and show what you can do.
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You don't have to listen to any advice. That's the joy of it.
TBH if an 18 year old wanted to tell me about AI, I'd be interested to hear. If they pretended to understand the reality of growing a business, I'd be extremely dubious, but they might prove me wrong.
If you want to throw around playground insults - again - up to you - but you risk being banned.
Ask yourself one question - what business value have you brought to the forum?
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- Original Poster
- #80
I have expressed my opinion about frameworks
There was not a single satisfied client. You work with them - no problem, consider it so I do not impose, it is a matter of taste. I have my own style and understanding of quality based on my experience.
If you are interested in something - show what you want - I say the price and time and whether I can create it. What could be simpler?
If you want to argue, prove your case, impose something, simply waste my and your time - then it is better not to.
And about 100k+ - if 100k is the project budget for 5 years - then it is one thing and for "quality" it is better to go to the guys from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
if it is a project that I can implement in 3-4 months - it is something completely different, if you understand
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