Why do we give Britain such a good kicking all the time?

[sirearl]

Comspec far to much common sense for UKBF or the Eton school boys who run the show.

 

[Swisaw]

A survey from Western Union said that 60% of Poles working in the UK do send money home, according to the National Bank of Poland about £4 billion is sent by Polish workers in the UK back to their families in Poland.

Apparently only 60% poles send money home. They are half a million in UK or 300k of them send home money, which stands at an average of £13,000.00/person. But over half of this 300k poles like the rest of the people can not earn more more than £13k/year. So it is impossible for the polish people, who send money home, to send £4billion in year to their families in Poland, even not a billion, but a few hundred millions may make sense.

So what is the secret behind of Western Union Survey? If it is true, it must have something to do with money laundering or nothing more than incorrect claims to bash poles.

 

[Swisaw]

Nobody saw a child fade to be the weight of a 6-month baby at 4yo? Nobody thought he was maybe being beaten & abused with all the marks on him? Only when he finally died did anyone say 'oh I thought there might have been something wrong there' !!

I think I cried for this child as much as I cried for my wife when she passed away.

Who saw the film: 'Twelve angry men'? These twelve angry men were members of a jury to find out if a teenager, a son of Mexican immigrant to US, was guilty or innocent of a murder. One of the jurors opened his speech by saying: "These Mexicans breed like rabbit. We have got one of them. Lets not let him to get away free". I think this polish unfortunate child became the victim of an attitude like the attitude of this juror.

 

[hmmm]

zero hours but cant work for anyone else. what a joke. that deserves the kicking its getting. back to the stone age with that one

 

[intrade]

I dread to think how much of our currency gets transferred to Poland each year .

I've been part of property refurbishments let to eastern europeans, polish in particular. They can afford to send money home, and do, because they live 10 to a room like pigs in **** and eat smart price food.

I suggest you to pay more attention to how you speak about other people in public. Calling someone "a pig" or suggesting that he lives as a "pig" is not acceptable. It touches me in a special way because you speak about my countrymen. If you want, I'll show you many Britons living in the same way. The only difference is that they live this way because spend taxpayers' money on alcohol and weed instead of supporting their families. This is also my money because I pay taxes in this country. Over the past 7 years I paid into the budget of this state over £50,000 of taxes every single year but never called pig people living in poverty even that the only source of income is social handouts. In contrast, people living on a shoestring but working hard to to get out of the poverty raise my utmost respect regardless of their nationality.
Maybe I just do not understand you, and maybe what your say is just part of the famous British sense of humor. Something like Monty Python and Mr. Bean, if so accept my apologies and do not be offended.
Besides, I'm a Pole is yet another reason why I believe that I can speak on this. For many years I worked in recruitment business and collaborating with several agencies in the years 2004 - 2006 personally recruited about 1,500 Polish workers to food businesses industry in Cheshire and North Wales. Mainly for the largest supplier of beef for Sainsbury's a company called ABP. Do you know how many British workers have lost their jobs because of the Poles, whom I recruited? The answer is: almost none. These company just like many others have been employing immigrants for years. The Poles were there mainly Portuguese (actually it was mostly people from Mozambique and Angola with the Portuguese passports). They simply swapped one for the other immigrants. The reason for this was not the fact that they paid less because Poles got there the same rate as Portuguese and a few Brits working there in similar positions. Is the agency offered a job to the British? Of course but they do not want to have employees who come today and but not tomorrow and the day after tomorrow may be or maybe not. Such a company must every day to do a certain amount of work. Otherwise they have a big problem. They need motivated staff whatever the reason of their motivation is.
I have experience with British employees in the agency in 2008, in the Scottish Borders region. I served the company packing vegetables for Tesco. Because it is a rural region was not easy to find the right amount of employees. Therefore, our demand I have submitted to the Job Centre in Berwick-upon-Tweed. Even I paid my OWN money and hired a bus for them to make their way to work from Berwick easier. I do not want to be boring so I will not describe the whole story but I will describe it in two words: BIG HEADACHE. Throughout all my life I haven't seen so many problems that employees may have to avoid work. Remember that we are talking about people unemployed in the region with a high percentage of unemployment. I had the impression that I did not give them a job but they done the politeness to me that they want to appear at work for a day or two.
I do not want to generalize, not all British are the same as those unemployed from Berwick. The vast majority are NOT. Just like the vast majority of Poles are NOT cheap unskilled workers living in hordes in one bedroom flat. This kind of people just came in the biggest number because they were the most desperate. They do not represent the entire Polish population. They represent maybe 15% of the poorest people are usually coming from the eastern Polish, which is poorly industrialized and there is no work. Do not get me wrong: I'm not particularly amazed by these people. In Poland rather avoid to have such people as neighbors.
They came here a few years ago, some stayed, some were returned but the great influx of immigration from the years 2004-2008 has stopped and will decrease as the economic development of Poland takes place.
By the way, here you have a "problem" with Polish immigrants and in Poland, we have about 350,000 legal workers from the former USSR, especially Ukraine. How many illegals are working in Poland I have no idea. The differences in wages always cause the migration of workers. The average wage in Poland is a statistic about 4800 PLN (app 800 GBP), the Ukraine is about 1200 PLN and thus 4 times less and in Moldova even half of this.
The problem is global and there are no effective methods to stop. Evidence of this is even a story of immigration in the UK over the last 60 years. Poles are neither the first nor the largest group of immigrants in Britain.
And finally one more thing: if you blame me for the fact that the Poles were recruited to work in the UK then know that in the accession referendum in 2003 voted against the Polish accession to the union and further I am opposed because I believe that the EU bureaucracy in the long term, not stimulates only as no development stops him. Polish economy in the 90s grew by 8-9% a year now about 2%

I'm sorry for language mistakes.