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GBMatty

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I work 33 hours a week at morrisons and i'm fed up with the way im treated, like a little part-timer, even though most of the supervisors have hardly any qualifactions, apart from basic english, maths etc. , and i'm fed up and want a more challenging business-minded job.
I have a level 3 diploma qualification in business, and want to put it to use.

Any ideas what sort of jobs, i should go for, or where to look?

Thanks in advance. Matt
 
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Only advice I can give is to sign up to all the job sites, keep your search criteria as wide as possible and get the daily updates emailed through.

Trawl all the available jobs in your area and every now and then one will jump out at you as a great opportunity - you might not get it but it could help form a more accurate picture of what is out there and what you'd like to do.

Be warned though - you will get idiotic managers / supervisors in pretty much any career, learn to deal with them effectively and you will save alot of hassle.

Good luck.
 
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I work 33 hours a week at morrisons and i'm fed up with the way im treated, like a little part-timer, even though most of the supervisors have hardly any qualifactions, apart from basic english, maths etc. , and i'm fed up and want a more challenging business-minded job.
I have a level 3 diploma qualification in business, and want to put it to use.

Any ideas what sort of jobs, i should go for, or where to look?

Thanks in advance. Matt

I have to contradict you there, I don't have a single GCSE and I have not done bad at all for myself and I am only 20 and looking at setting up my second business venture in the spring next year. Degrees in business don't make you successful. I actually employed someone with a background similar to mine to work in sales over someone who had a 2:1 in business who thought they knew it all as having a degree doesn't make you any better than someone who just needs to be given a chance and are very capable.
 
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Morrisons have just reported good earnings.Why not try and advance within the company.They are now a serious player in the sector.Talk to your area manager(or whatever they call themselves) and tell them that you are very keen to get promotion etc etc.
What have you got to lose?Good luck.
 
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How and/or why did you end up in the job you are in - was it just a job that was available or did you see it as something that interested you or a potential career?

Smart motivated people will always stand a chance of doing well in big companies like that (majority of staff are minimum wage, part time and there is often a high turnover of staff) So, show some committment and ambition and there may be things available to you - and if not in your current store, then in one near by (do you mind moving>)

You'll always have annoying bosses/staff/co-workers/customers/suppliers - so you need to learn how to deal with them - whatever way your job goes. Plenty of self help books on dealing with differnt types of people. And do you ever think it might be how you project yourself that makes them come over all arsey? Just because your superviser dont have any qualifications doesn't mean they can't do their job.

But if it's a change of career you need/want - then just start trawling the vacancy positions

If you are going to start up your own company - think about something that interests you (rather than something that is just gonna make you money) to start with things will be slow and you'll be relying on your own motivation to do things - so it helps if it's something you enjoy.

If you can, start up part time - see how it goes (means more than 33 hours a week work though)

Also, you generally need a good bit of money behind you - even for a simple venture. So, once you have your idea, cost it out, really cost it out and then add a lot more as contingency - then figure out where that money is coming from.

good luck
 
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Have you asked to see if its possible to get a secondment in another department? Maybe in the office or head office or distribution warehouse office etc.

Somewhere you can maybe have first hand experience of dealing with budgets and staff. HR is always a good place to work. You get to see staff treated badly, staff trying to claim for sexual harrasment or racial discrimnation which can really help if you become a manager.
 
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Hi Matt

If you r fed up with all what happening with you.
Then why dont you join me and do own business , as I am searching a business partner for leather goods and equestrian goods .
You will earn little in starting but later few days we will make good money and reputed name in International Business
 
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GBMatty

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Thanks for the feedback all.

I enjoy different types of sports, and im a very physical person, i love hands on work, construction wise, but from the current economy this isn't the best way to go, unless i have qualifications such as plumbers etc. i am a fan of the internet, but i dont have the patience to sit at a computer for too long, so im not sure how anything internet related would work.

Thanks once again.
Matt.
 
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Thanks for the feedback all.

I enjoy different types of sports, and im a very physical person, i love hands on work, construction wise, but from the current economy this isn't the best way to go, unless i have qualifications such as plumbers etc. i am a fan of the internet, but i dont have the patience to sit at a computer for too long, so im not sure how anything internet related would work.

Thanks once again.
Matt.

I think one way or another you need to learn a saleable skill... a 'trade' if you like.... I don't necessarily mean in construction work (unless this is what you want to do) but you do need a focus...

It may well be that a return to college is warranted. And remember that college courses range from foundation (NQ) level thought to Degrees and beyond... Self-Education is all very well, but it's rarely complete... The road to ruin is littered with the bodies of those who flew just a wee bit too close to the sun through partial knowledge...

There are a huge number of subjects you could study... From Sports Science to Trades Skills to Creative Industries subjects.... Events Management for instance is popular and (ultimately) lucrative for instance... Even full time HN level courses are typically 16 hours attendance.. So you could work while studying (most students do!) and there are a lot of options...

Don't dismiss the experience at Morrisons either... If nothing else it's teaching you how not to manage... And how to deal with the public.

Your level 3 diploma? Is this an NVQ/SVQ or from some other source???
 
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I work 33 hours a week at morrisons and i'm fed up with the way im treated, like a little part-timer, even though most of the supervisors have hardly any qualifactions, apart from basic english, maths etc. , and i'm fed up and want a more challenging business-minded job.
I have a level 3 diploma qualification in business, and want to put it to use.

Any ideas what sort of jobs, i should go for, or where to look?

Thanks in advance. Matt

Have you tried applying for higher position at Morrisons?
 
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hey why don't you go on and work for me and for my equestrian business.

Thanks for the feedback all.

I enjoy different types of sports, and im a very physical person, i love hands on work, construction wise, but from the current economy this isn't the best way to go, unless i have qualifications such as plumbers etc. i am a fan of the internet, but i dont have the patience to sit at a computer for too long, so im not sure how anything internet related would work.

Thanks once again.
Matt.
 
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hi
Equestrian business is concern with leather sales business.
If you wish you can check the website http://chimacumtack.com/ , http://smuckersharness.com/ these are my customers.

This is very nice business and I need a partner from UK to the same business in UK .
you can find many tack shops in UK also , they are related to the same business.

Does the equestrian business feed in to the leather sales business?

Do you have a website we can all look at by any chance? If it was possible to sign up for a small fee and learn about how to make money like you - I would do it!
 
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hi
Equestrian business is concern with leather sales business.
If you wish you can check the website http://chimacumtack.com/ , http://smuckersharness.com/ these are my customers.

This is very nice business and I need a partner from UK to the same business in UK .
you can find many tack shops in UK also , they are related to the same business.


Have a look at this guy's other posts.... He's clueless and is basically trying to scam his way into the UK. :rolleyes:
 
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GBMatty

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The business course was labelled as BTEC Level 3 diploma in business studies, its meant to be the eqv. to 3 A levels. I wouldn't mind a job role, with something related to sports management, ovs not straight away management, but the possiblity to be there.

And who's this india bloke, that keeps trying to attack my thread getting me to run his business in the UK? haha.

Thanks, Matt.
 
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The business course was labelled as BTEC Level 3 diploma in business studies, its meant to be the eqv. to 3 A levels. I wouldn't mind a job role, with something related to sports management, ovs not straight away management, but the possiblity to be there.

And who's this india bloke, that keeps trying to attack my thread getting me to run his business in the UK? haha.

Thanks, Matt.

I've got BTEC Nat. Diploma Lvl3 in IT. GNVQ Business Studies and part (due to hospitalisation, I had to drop out) BTEC Nat. Dip Lvl3 Business Studies and quite a few GCSEs.

NONE have helped me get a job.

Employers are far too busy hiring people who have experience and it's very hard [or at least, challenging] to get a job as a fresher. And many fresher jobs are bias to Graduates which 95% of the time is talking about University graduates.

It's daft. But only a lucky few get in, and when they get in, it's not even sure whether they stay.

That's why I'm starting my own business and doing freelance jobs and temp webmaster/editor jobs, the only "advantage" I have being disabled is that I get benefits, which admittedly I hate.

But that's just me being realistic.
Some may argue that my disability may be off-putting to employing me, which is very true, but some applications I've done I've closed the information that I'm disabled to try and get into a job.
 
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GBMatty

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The company itself is rubbish, i'm not sure how it succeeds, because the way yu are looked at and treated by some of the higher staff is rubbish, and i dont think this makes it a good company, fair enough it makes mega money, which is the main aim, but a friendly organisation would make me look to a better stanard, and others as i have asked about. So if i was going to work my way up, i'd rather either find a different store, or move to competiton.

I'd love to set up my own business, but i dont think it would last, i havent got the patience or the skills to start a business that would be successful, i just have the diploma, which would help work within a business, in the higher up circle.

Thanks for the replies, Matt.
 
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And many fresher jobs are bias to Graduates which 95% of the time is talking about University graduates.

The reason for this is simple. In order to massage the statistics all courses have been dumbed down. So people that would have been non-certificate a generation or two ago now have (albeit worthless IMHO) 'qualifications'. The 'numpty exams' the kids call them...

And even at HE level there are greater numbers of graduates around; but they're only at the same level as HN qualified people were a generation ago...

It's not that young people are any less capable. It's just that the education system (like so much controlled by government) over the past 30 years (and it's got wors during the last 15) has shifted its key priorities from doing the job it's meant to do, to producing largely vacuous statistics for government spin doctors.

Most A-Level/Higher papers that I've seen aren't anywhere near the same level of difficulty 'o' Level papers were 25 or 30 years ago. The net result is that I regularly see students with 'highers' and 'A' levels who quite simply cannot read and write properly (And no, not because they're dyslexic either; a condition I struggle with myself.) Simply because they've been taught and certificated at an inadequate level to massage the school 'league tables'...

At the HNC/D level which I teach, I'm only bringing people up to an level of knowledge which would have got you an ONC 25 years ago; an HND now is a pretty basic qualification... And a degree similarly less advanced than it once was...

Not that these things are worthless. An HND represents some 2400hours of study and is assessed rigourously. But the same was once true of 'o' grades and highers...

The minimum qualification I set now for a very junior position is an HNC in either TV or Multimedia production. And even a graduate is going to start their career making the tea and doing the filing... 20 years ago I'd have started a school leaver with one or two highers or a good group of 'o' levels and sent them through college on day or block release...

It's not that I have anything against school leavers. But when I deploy a production team I'm taking a calculated risk. And it would be the same for any business person; if you employ a filing clerk ar ethey actually filing things away or stuffing them in their pockets and dumping them onthe way home. (I've seen this happen!).

To mitigate that risk one of the things I have to do is ensure that the person I'm employing has demonstrated a) that they have an adequate level of education and b) have demonstrated the self discipline needed to complete a complex task such as the HNC...

I've got BTEC Nat. Diploma Lvl3 in IT. GNVQ Business Studies and part (due to hospitalisation, I had to drop out) BTEC Nat. Dip Lvl3 Business Studies and quite a few GCSEs.

NONE have helped me get a job.
Theoretically the equivalent of 3-5 A levels... and you would have achieved this at about 18? But in truth the equivalent of 7 or 8 old 'o' levels.. Which is good but... by the time you get these you're well past school leaving age....

For instance I've seen the paperwork for the Ineractive Media and its no wonder my 13-year old does so well in IT at school... With a little effort she could pass that. NOT because she's some sort of genius. But because I've been teaching her these things at home to a level appropriate to her age and intelligence...

This will sound horrible; and it's really not my intent to be cruel or nasty... But the blunt fact is many employers can see through the political spin. And see qualifications at that level for what they are... We have 18, 19, 20 years olds who have been 'sold' these qualifications which are in fact what you'd have expected from a 16 year old two decades ago... That's why those qualifications haven't helped you get a job... :(

Despite offering paperwork up to the hilt the education system has and is failing both young people and employers...
 
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I work 33 hours a week at morrisons and i'm fed up with the way im treated, like a little part-timer, even though most of the supervisors have hardly any qualifactions, apart from basic english, maths etc. , and i'm fed up and want a more challenging business-minded job.
I have a level 3 diploma qualification in business, and want to put it to use.

Any ideas what sort of jobs, i should go for, or where to look?

Thanks in advance. Matt

Hi Matt, you seem pretty determined to get somewhere. I see you have a diploma but can you tell me if you have any A-Levels? The company I work for (Saint-Gobain, who own Jewson/Graham) take on several intakes of Management Trainees through the year, most of whom after a two year course go on to be Branch Managers, Asst. Branch Managers or work in a central function. We have actually just established our own foundation degree in merchanting in partnership with Birmingham University which is a first for the industry. Take a look at http://www.makeitasamanager.co.uk/ to keep an eye out for our next recruitment cycle. We pay approximately 10% higher than equivilent courses in the industry and we really reward our trainees. Have a look and good luck!
 
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The Diploma he mentioned is the equivalent of 3 'A' levels; We'd certainly accept it as such for entry to HNC/D even under the Scottish system..

http://www.scqf.org.uk/AbouttheFramework/Overview-of-Framework.aspx?

There will be an equivalent framework in England and Wales and these map across to the European system.

Worth mentioning too that Many HN courses are structured so that you complete HNC in 1st year, HND in second year then articulate to the third year of a degree course... You have retail experience (and can probably keep working through your course), an HNC will take you one step. If you want to continue to HND you can; but you'll still have achieved something if you dont... Likewise in the transition from HND to degree...

Many people see this as a 'safer' route that going straight through Uni..
 
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I enjoy different types of sports, and im a very physical person, i love hands on work, construction wise, but from the current economy this isn't the best way to go, unless i have qualifications such as plumbers etc. i am a fan of the internet, but i dont have the patience to sit at a computer for too long,


I'd love to set up my own business, but i dont think it would last, i havent got the patience or the skills to start a business that would be successful, i just have the diploma, which would help work within a business, in the higher up circle.

I've just whizzed through this thread and those two statements struck me.

Whilst they might indicate a refreshing self awareness, they also might show a lack of application, as though 'not having the patience' is an excuse for not getting down to something, and finishing it. Could this be a cause of the OP's dissatisfaction?

And, as a minor but telling point, mastery of upper case 'i' is often a good thing.
 
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The reason for this is simple. In order to massage the statistics all courses have been dumbed down. So people that would have been non-certificate a generation or two ago now have (albeit worthless IMHO) 'qualifications'. The 'numpty exams' the kids call them...

And even at HE level (snip snip)

YOU are a real breath of fresh air.

I almost walked out on my Nat. Dip because I FELT dumbed down, they were doing mundane tasks which I had spet as a 13 year old doing!

And, although unlikely as it is, I felt I knew more than the teacher teaching web design, I was correcting HIM and spent several hours at lunch telling people how to do things to the web standards.

I know my qualifications are 'worthless' in a sense, I tried telling my parents this, but they didn't listen, I wanted to do an apprenticeship and actually LEARN something.

I've learned more out side of school and college, my maths has improved thanks to me teaching myself, my English has vastly improved although not perfect, and I know more about IT than the average student my age in a course.

Some may call me blatantly big headed, but I feel so inadequate sitting in a course thats teching me things I learned years ago. I spoke with the teacher, and he said it's alwasy best to refresh, which I totally agree. But the last 3 months of my IT diploma, I spent at home, doing the work from home, I got totally fed up.

I'm now going to study CIM/CIPD courses, for my own personal benefit rather than employers. And also do BTEC Nat. Dip. Business (again to complete it) on distance learning, then go to do a degree in Business Management with Law.

I just feel I learn more, sitting at home, reading books and talking to other experts about things and trying things myself. The education system is 60% reliant on books and pre-prepared materials that the teachers have to teach by.

I can't stand it. Simply put.
And I do recognise that doing distance learninga nd taking a course in the OU will be looked upon by many employers as less than the level of 'traditional' university, but I'd rather save my money and not hang around with immature fools who just want to get drunk every study night.

Can you see what I'm trying to say TFGtv?
 
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