What is the best CMS for a non-Ecommerce website?

FinanceBizWiz

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Hi guys,

I'm looking at setting up a website for financial advice and wondered if anyone had any advice on which is the best CMS/ back-end to use for SEO, ease of use, ease of updating (even if a developer is required), etc?

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Depends on so many different factors it's impossible to give a clear answer. I use wordpress because I know how to make it work properly. You may struggle to do the same. It might even be that you don't even need a CMS - a static site might suit you better. Or you could use a subscription service from squarespace.

Will you want a chatbox, contact forms, comments, will you be adding new pages regularly, does it need to comply with any regulations, will there be financial calculators?

Or maybe you just need a one page site with your contact details?

You mention SEO but don't say what for. Is your marketing plan to rank for popular financial searches? If so, do you have money to pay someone do do all the work for you (it's not always as simple or easy as it looks)?
 
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FinanceBizWiz

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Depends on so many different factors it's impossible to give a clear answer. I use wordpress because I know how to make it work properly. You may struggle to do the same. It might even be that you don't even need a CMS - a static site might suit you better. Or you could use a subscription service from squarespace.

Will you want a chatbox, contact forms, comments, will you be adding new pages regularly, does it need to comply with any regulations, will there be financial calculators?

Or maybe you just need a one page site with your contact details?

You mention SEO but don't say what for. Is your marketing plan to rank for popular financial searches? If so, do you have money to pay someone do do all the work for you (it's not always as simple or easy as it looks)?


Thanks for your reply.

I don't think a static site would do it as would need chat widgets, contact forms, a blog and all the rest of it.

I am very familiar with the online marketing process and SEO and know it is not easy, I have a successful e-commerce website but only really know about good platforms for e-commerce.

I know that some CMS or website building platforms can be very anti-SEO and this is really what I am asking? Are there any platforms that you say to avoid because they are hard to work with?

Thanks.
 
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Wordpress is a very good CMS. The limitations you will have will depend on who implements it and how the website is built.

Not all wordpress themes are very SEO friendly for example.
Also not all plugins are very good, this is mainly to do with performance although there can also be security implications.

So, be picky about your theme
don't install every wordpress plugin under the sun, be selective and only use what you need.
 
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Matt1966

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Thanks. Are there limitations with Wordpress though? Sometimes platforms have 1 or 2 limitations with some stuff.
If you know php you can do basically anything with Wordpress.

If you want no limitations, you need to learn how to code and make your own CMS. I don't use any content management systems anymore, due to limitation, but I'm an asp.net guy.
 
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Thanks. Are there limitations with Wordpress though? Sometimes platforms have 1 or 2 limitations with some stuff.
I've never found a limitation. I've done stuff with WordPress that is totally off the wall and it still worked.
 
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The big thing for me is security. I'm currently building an application which requires very high security because any breach could get me into a lot of trouble. Would I trust Wordpress in this department? Probably not.

If you do opt for Wordpress, make sure you use a plugin like Wordfence, and update your plugins on a daily basis as they're normally the weak links.
 
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Unless the plugin is insecure be default in which case updating weekly isn’t going to help. Far better to avoid forward facing plugins where possible.
 
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There is no "best" CMS, all have some pros and cons. WordPress for example is free but has very questionable security and poor performance due to its model and also it's a pain to do anything multilingual.

Then there are stuff like Joomla, it's a better all purpose CMS than WP but is less popular which translates to less plugins etc. Then there is Drupal, it's for more tech savvy people and developers.

You must know your requirements well before you decide. Furthermore think about your product 5 years from now. Will your CMS of choice now still be good to cover the (hopefully) increased demands of the future?

There's also the custom option which is best but most expensive. (because it gives you all that you want and nothing that you don't want)
 
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MaureenP

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Hi guys,

I'm looking at setting up a website for financial advice and wondered if anyone had any advice on which is the best CMS/ back-end to use for SEO, ease of use, ease of updating (even if a developer is required), etc?

Thanks.

WordPress remains the best for any website because it remains easy to use. Its free and paid plugins for SEO help to update any information very easily. You can also set up multiple users for the website and allow to give access levels as per requirement. You can read its more benefits for here.
 
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Just to throw a different opinion in the mix, I'm using Grav a lot for smaller sites. Not a static site, but it's flat file CMS, meaning there's no database. You can still login to edit content, there's free themes and plugins. It also has a really good SEO plugin that let's you update and preview your meta tags for Google, Facebook, and Twitter from the page editor. Adding editable sections to a page is a breeze too – just add a section to a text file and the field appears in your editor. Add content, save and it's live.

I've actually stopped recommending Wordpress to many of my clients because it's often overkill for what they need, and if you don't keep on top of updates (or get the site/theme built properly the first time around) if can cause you issues in future with compatibility and even security. Any CMS that connects to a database is not really something you should install and just forget about.
 
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Paul Murray

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Hey Paul, would you compare Grav to say Jekyll or Hugo static builders?
I would say to the OP to look at this alternative. For simplicity security for smaller sites this is a very good way to go.

They're very similar yes, though not truly static in the classic sense of the word. It runs really fast out of the box from what I can tell thanks to in-built caching and not needing to access a database.
 
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I have used a lot from the rockettheme (grav creators) team for joomla templating and in their gantry framework so I respect their efforts and it does look like it hits a sweet spot.
Ok it looks like you still have to update and deal with plugins so the only advantage I can see over WP is that there is no DB. The data is the pages and posts as flat files.
I assume it is PHP still.
I was almost hooked on HUGO as a tool before grav. Not needing PHP or anything like that and therefore updates etc was very attractive. The first thing you miss is a simple web form and then socially sharing plugins. But really for sites that are going to not go for any traffic via search that isn't a biggie...
I am convinced we are going to see a shift where WP is loosing market share. WIX and the like will take a lot of DIY'ers they must have a HUGE advertising budget!!!
I am happy to look at and build a site for anyone that is a few pages using HUGO or grav.
I will be creating a couple of my own ones as I always like to test out the limitations. Grav you still get a security risk like any dynamic site, though at worst all they can infect is your static files which will be 'easy' to spot. I had to clean a few infected sites over my time. SQL injection was the culprit mostly GRAV wont have that.
 
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Calvin Crane

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Wordpress is great however:
a) if you know what you are doing it's able to rank in search
b) if you don't know how to setup (and few really do!) it will not rank and be slow and not work

So if you really want to DIY then perhaps go WIX if not then get a designer/developer/proper agency involved.

If you go ahead and do b) then I have a technical SEO program to get your site working and ranking just PM me.
 
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As you can see, there are a lot of different opinions on the matter!

And there is no one answer. However, Wordpress is very popular, and you will find a lot of people who can help if you get a bit stuck.

On the various Wordpress issues raised on this thread, read the answers given by @fisicx

There are other systems around, of course. But I would not recommend anything without carefully understanding what you are hoping to achieve.
 
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If you know php you can do basically anything with Wordpress.

If you want no limitations, you need to learn how to code and make your own CMS. I don't use any content management systems anymore, due to limitation, but I'm an asp.net guy.

Have you tried Umbraco if you are an ASP.net guy? I have been using it for many years and it is brilliant, I have built some very large and complex websites using it and never found any limitations.
 
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Yes we use wordpress most of the time, sometimes just pure html. Wordpress has become more robust and it is quite well maintained with regular updates, including incremental improvements each itme. With all the available plugins or themes available, you can create a multitude of websites with various features and looks.
 
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And he more widgets and plugins and page builder themes the worse it gets. You can turn a Wordpress installation into a bloated monster very easily.

And just wait until Gutenberg becomes core code. Then everything will go to rats.
 
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    Wordpress is the best CMS for any non ecommerce site. A highly skilled WordPress developer can make some really amazing and highly functional web pages on WordPress.
    It does depend a lot on the requirement and who will be using the CMS.

    WordPress itself as a piece of software is very poor (in my humble opinion) but the size of the community makes up for this in terms of developers, themes, plugins.

    The disadvantage of WordPress is that the extreme popularity makes it a target for hackers. If you don't update WP constantly, you probably will get hacked.

    These are CMSes are worth a look though:
    Or for more hardcore developers (usually best where clients won't use the CMS themselves):
    Paul
     
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