Website design costs

[justintime]

Would be interested to know what I can expect to pay for a 7 to 8 page website, css complaint with mixture of text and graphics. It will be for web hosting with outsourced web design as an add on.

Its only an idea at the moment so doesnt need to be exact

 

[sanjiv]

Something basic or the bells and whistles?

 

[justintime]

Something basic or the bells and whistles?[/quote

I would say somewhere in between. A static design is fine but that comes across as professional looking. It doesn't need flash or anything similar

 

[cmcp]

Budget around the £400 - £800 mark.

If you get offers from folk on here, whatever you do check their portfolio and that they build clean w3c compliant code.

 

[Nigelnt]

Starting from £300. For £500 we can integrate it into the live site on our cms.

 

[sanjiv]

I can do it for £400. 7 static pages and a contact form page.
I can also add a bit of code to make it easy for you to edit content of the webpage easily.

 

[Faevilangel]

I would charge £250 for a 7/8 page site with 1 email contact form. For another £100 I would integrate into a cms, so you can edit the pages without knowing any code. I would recommend wordpress for the cms.

You would need to supply images and text for the content, I would supply any images to do with the layout.

send me a PM if interested

thanks

 

[Nigelnt]

Update if you need some simple design, not CMS (like simple blog WordPress etc) then all the work will cost above £250.

 

Check your designer builds SEO friendly sites.

Unless you don't want anyone to find you.?

Earl

 

[Nigelnt]

Check your designer builds SEO friendly sites.

Unless you don't want anyone to find you.?

Earl

Yes you are right. And also check here w3c.org
This will prevent you from getting a bad surprise with indexing of your pages. Anyway you'd better get a professional to do this job. This will save your time, helth and money.

 

[psanghani]

My friend is a proffesional web designer and can also design java websites and can also host, support and manage your website after its been designed he is good and will design your and all of the above for very low price. click on the link below to his website for more info.

http://www.justeasymedia.com/

 

[Optegris]

I would say £400 +. Anything less than that I would be little sceptical...

**awaits backlash from budget webbies**

 

[Nigelnt]

I would say £400 +. Anything less than that I would be little sceptical...

**awaits backlash from budget webbies**

))) installation of wordpress is simple) Custom design costs from £300, but design for wordpress is much cheeper, thus £400 for simple blog is a big price.

Price depends on work volume and quality and there is no sense in paying more than this costs in fact.

Of coarse, you'd better look into the portfolio of the candidate you are giving the order to.

Hope this will help you to make the right choise.

 

[cmcp]

I would say £400 +. Anything less than that I would be little sceptical...

**awaits backlash from budget webbies**

You're right - to be honest you'd be hard pushed to find anyone of any reputation taking on work like this for less than a grand but hey, that's up to them!

 

[Faevilangel]

You're right - to be honest you'd be hard pushed to find anyone of any reputation taking on work like this for less than a grand but hey, that's up to them!

Wrong I would expect an agency to charge £1000+ for a 8 page website, but for a freelancer should be able to do it for less than half of that.
I would say 10-15 hours designing and building it the homepage, another 10 hours to build the other pages & to add the content.

I would say £300-£500 is the ball park figure for an 8 page site, some charge more, some charge less. Do the research on the person and decide if it's worth the money

P.s My cost was supposed to be £350 not £250

 

[Optegris]

Then you are undercharging

£350 for 20 hours work = £17.50/hour. Once you take off your costs such as rent, bills, electricity, hosting, software costs even if you are working at home you would still be working for less than the minimum wage ...

 

[cmcp]

When I see a talented web designer posting on here I'll stand corrected.

There was one, a long time ago, but he doesn't post here anymore.

 

[Faevilangel]

Then you are undercharging

£350 for 20 hours work = £17.50/hour. Once you take off your costs such as rent, bills, electricity, hosting, software costs even if you are working at home you would still be working for less than the minimum wage ...

I know but I have had to be more competitive, I have had a few queries on my site but after quoting them i got, oh that's too expensive.

I asked this on a freelancer forum and got a rough estimate of what to charge. I also get a designer to do all my design work (now) so I make even less

Unfortunately the type of people I get asking me for sites (at the moment) try and pit me against the Indians on getafreelancer and elance. I cannot work for that low.

I don't do the hosting, and I don't use any paid software (gimp, notepad2 and firefox) but really need to get a copy of PS

 

[Nigelnt]

I work more than 5 years in web development) Different countries have different prices. It's not a problem to check prices in foregin web studios

Also everyone's got his/her old works that can show what they can
And when someone sais the price, he must say what this price covers/for example 250 for installation of wordpress and making a design for x pages;
or installation of CMS and making custom design and this will cost xxxx.

Another big question is what client wants - just static pages or some cms for content editing. There are too many variables to declare that you can do it exactly for 250.

Besides, TS asked about the design and design will cost from 300

 

[Optegris]

I know but I have had to be more competitive, I have had a few queries on my site but after quoting them i got, oh that's too expensive.

I asked this on a freelancer forum and got a rough estimate of what to charge. I also get a designer to do all my design work (now) so I make even less

Unfortunately the type of people I get asking me for sites (at the moment) try and pit me against the Indians on getafreelancer and elance. I cannot work for that low.

I don't do the hosting, and I don't use any paid software (gimp, notepad2 and firefox) but really need to get a copy of PS

I know exactly what you mean but that's where the skill of selling yourself and your service comes in. I get the same sort of thing with hosting and people who want unlimited everything with sugar on top for £1/year. The thing is I don't compete on price and stick to my guns. Sadly people often find out the hard way by trying to save a few quid...

 

[Faevilangel]

I know exactly what you mean but that's where the skill of selling yourself and your service comes in. I get the same sort of thing with hosting and people who want unlimited everything with sugar on top for £1/year. The thing is I don't compete on price and stick to my guns. Sadly people often find out the hard way by trying to save a few quid...

With such a minimal portfolio as well, It's harder for me to charge what I believe I should. I do get quite a few enquiries about fixing websites another designer has messed up. Far too many people cut corners in websites, and realise why there investment isn't providing results. A lot of people are getting stung by 'rogue' designers who just use templates or outsource the work out to india and asia.

I am making more of an effort to grab local business so should be able to get away from the above mess.

 

[Nigelnt]

Then you are undercharging

£350 for 20 hours work = £17.50/hour. Once you take off your costs such as rent, bills, electricity, hosting, software costs even if you are working at home you would still be working for less than the minimum wage ...

1) why 20 hours? ))) It's imposible to say how much time you need untill you see the task)
2) for UK £17.5 is low but for many other countries this is real
3) rent, electricity, and surely host don't cost so much in other countries

I agree with you that good work must cost good money. But every work must cost as much as it costs.

It is needful to compare not prices but quality.

 

[Optegris]

The 20 hours was from Gareths estimate and comparing UK web design to offshore companies is like apples and pears I'm afraid...

 

I agree with you that good work must cost good money..

Total fallacy.Good work comes from the quality of the workman not the price.

If you don't believe that pop in any art gallery.

Earl

 

[Nigelnt]

With such a minimal portfolio as well, It's harder for me to charge what I believe I should. I do get quite a few enquiries about fixing websites another designer has messed up. Far too many people cut corners in websites, and realise why there investment isn't providing results. A lot of people are getting stung by 'rogue' designers who just use templates or outsource the work out to india and asia.

I am making more of an effort to grab local business so should be able to get away from the above mess.

Yes indian sites are very bad)
Who sais that one needs to make site in asia? ) (I am not from asia ) Our clients are from UK and USA, also we make a lot of redesigns after UK designers. I repeat myself - you should see portfolio.

 

[Faevilangel]

1) why 20 hours? ))) It's imposible to say how much time you need untill you see the task)
2) for UK £17.5 is low but for many other countries this is real
3) rent, electricity, and surely host don't cost so much in other countries

I agree with you that good work must cost good money. But every work must cost as much as it costs.

It is needful to compare not prices but quality.

20 hours was an estimate for a 8 page site, a website might take longer, depends on so many factors.
£17.50 for a uk webdeveloper is peanuts, if I was in employment for an agency, I would be looking at £25 an hour minimum.
the uk is an expensive place to live as it;s a developed country.

I know an indian can do work for $6 an hour, where as I couldn't dream of it. The way I see things is, if someone wants to hire a foreigner, they are going for the price option. My reasons are:

1) You will be lucky to find a foreign national that has a grasp of the english language that a UK provider will have.
2) A lot use tables and templates to build the sites. (a lot of UK 'pro's' do too).
3) Support - With a UK based person, you can phone them for free or a few pence to talk to them. To talk to a foreign nation, you will have to ring half way round the world and end up calling in the wrong time.

 

[RedEvo]

Then you are undercharging

£350 for 20 hours work = £17.50/hour. Once you take off your costs such as rent, bills, electricity, hosting, software costs even if you are working at home you would still be working for less than the minimum wage ...

Wasting your breath Phil. Most web 'companies' are run by technicians not business people and they seldom understand the real cost of delivering their services.

d

 

[Optegris]

Wasting your breath Phil. Most web 'companies' are run by technicians not business people and they seldom understand the real cost of delivering their services.

d

Yep I know Dave although there are some designers who are forced to live on the bread line because of the undercutting tactics of so called professionals

 

[Optegris]

Yes indian sites are very bad)
Who sais that one needs to make site in asia? ) (I am not from asia ) Our clients are from UK and USA, also we make a lot of redesigns after UK designers. I repeat myself - you should see portfolio.

May we see your portfolio?

 

[Nigelnt]

Total fallacy.Good work comes from the quality of the workman not the price.

Earl

I didn't write that good work came from the price I said that good work should be estimated right.

Rembrant didn't get anything from his paintings ) Do you think he was a bad artist? A lot of modern artists sell their works at high prices but they never be like Rembrant.

 

[Faevilangel]

Yep I know Dave although there are some designers who are forced to live on the bread line because of the undercutting tactics of so called professionals

I know of a few people like me who are having to charge as little as possible as we are now in a "haggling" society where anyone will try anything to get the price down.
Add the indians and other foreigners who are "spamming" on the UK forums advertising their "cheap" prices. (see wdf forum for this). Just this morning a prospective client told me they got their website done by another person for £200 less , a UK freelancer who outsources to india

 

[Nigelnt]

May we see your portfolio?

Yes when i have 15 posts)) Now I'm bound by the rules of the forum. Can you show me yours meanwhile?

 

[Faevilangel]

Yes when i have 15 posts)) Now I'm bound by the rules of the forum. Can you show me yours meanwhile?

Type it in without the www e.g. garethgillman.co.uk

You don't have to have 15 posts to make a non-clickable link

Openmind's portfolio is here

 

[Optegris]

I don't do bespoke designs anymore, I concentrate mainly on eCommerce development.

It's entirely possible to put your site in your profile you now...

 

[Faevilangel]

I don't do bespoke designs anymore, I concentrate mainly on eCommerce development.

It's entirely possible to put your site in your profile you now...

Ya, but it's not a link back without it being spammed in a forum post

I have lost count of the amount of people saying I need 15 posts to show you my link

 

[Faevilangel]

May we see your portfolio?

http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=1187532#post1187532

and google for the company name

 

[Nigelnt]

Ok )
I saw 2 sites in your portfolio (in signature) and the price you stated there is lower than the one I posted here

First 3 links from our portfolio:
short-stay-uk.co.uk
bazzar.net.ua
prikluchenie.com.ua

No any free cms etc was used in the projects
All portfolio will be posted a bit later

Your portfolio garethgillman.co.uk/website-portfolio.html to compare

 

[Nigelnt]

is this yours garethgillman.co.uk/work-images/the-itsc.png ?

 

[Optegris]

Ok )
I saw 2 sites in your portfolio (in signature) and the price you stated there is lower than the one I posted here

Who me?

Oh by the way, what's your connection to gzmweb.com?

 

[Faevilangel]

is this yours garethgillman.co.uk/work-images/the-itsc.png ?

Yup It's a website I did as a favour (not live yet), I just tidied up the code (rewrote in valid xhtml + css and made it seo friendlier).