Wanting to sell my sole trader business, need to value or see if worth selling at all.

chrisdav

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Hi, I am currently operating a cherry picker hire business. I started it in 2017 and have built up a good customer base. Approx. 90 percent repeat customers now. My official turnover is around £47000 with average of £26000 profit working 3 days a week. The Truck is worth approx £35000. My main expenses are Fuel and repairs, plus insurances etc. I don't advertise or have a website anymore but I do come up on google if you search my area. Im wondering if anyone knows or can advise how i can value the whole lot to sell or should i sell the truck and let the customers go?
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JEREMY HAWKE

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    The business is of no value
    Even a business like this with 500K turn over is of limited value.
    I would sell the wagon if your looking to get some money back from it
     
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    Customers are only really of value if they are tied in in some way - through necessity (no competition) or through contract.

    You may find someone who will pay a small premium , but then you are getting into the legal complexities of selling a business vs selling a piece of equipment

    Assuming there is no other facet to the business, I'd suggest you look for top dollar for the kit and *nod and wink* throw in the customer base (GDPR may apply)
     
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    Clinton

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    If it's you doind the bulk of the work, the advice you'll get here will be that there is no business to sell and why should someone want to buy your job from you?
    If you've got better advice, you should post it.

    You think that if there's some 'unofficial turnover' - under the table / cash deals - it makes the business more interesting to buyers?

    Ok. Thanks for your reply , can you explain further?
    Explain further? @JEREMY HAWKE gave you his opinion and said 'no value'. It sounds like you dislike that opinion and want him to explain himself or change his opinion.

    Don't worry, we get a lot of that here in UKBF!

    I know a bit about selling businesses. My view is that you can't do better than @Mark T Jones 's recommendation above.
     
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    JEREMY HAWKE

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    Explain further? @JEREMY HAWKE gave you his opinion and said 'no value'. It sounds like you dislike that opinion and want him to explain himself or change his opinion.
    If my business returned this in profits I would be pissed off
     
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    pentel

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    The cost to the seller and buyer of the business will be an absolute minimum of £5,000 / £10,000 each, probably a lot more. This alone makes selling smaller businesses a no go unless you can find someone who will do a deal without going through the legal process which is a risk to both you and them. It will also take quite a while.

    Far better to sell the truck and move on.
     
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    BusterBloodvessel

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    Ok. Thanks for your reply , can you explain further?
    Well I'm in a good mood this morning, I've got precisely 13 minutes to kill until my first meeting, so I'll oblige. However if you search this forum you will find multiple similar threads and bits of advice.

    The upshot is, the £26,000 isn't "profit" for the business. It's what it's cost in wages to get somebody (you) to do the work required. Let's say you are only doing 3 days a week, and doing 8 hours a day, which is actually highly unlikely (I am not calling you disingenuous - simply that the nature of the beast with sole trader operations like this is that there's often work involved without realising it - whether it's the "just doing an hour of paperwork" in the evening, or the "lets stay late and get this finished"etc). That equates to an hourly rate of just over £20/hr on average. Which sounds ok.... but that's not covering or accounting for holidays, sick pay, out of hours work, etc etc. Given that there's realistically more than the 24 hours a week going into it, realistically it's probably not a huge amount above National Minimum Wage - which somebody could go and earn with job security and all the above benefits.

    So, if someone comes along and buys "the business", let's say (pulling figures out of the air) they give you £50,000 for it, plus the cost of the cherry picker. They then have two options;

    1. Pay somebody £15-£20 an hour to do the actual physical work (if you can even get an experienced/qualified person for that rate?). At that point, once they've paid their wages, there's no profit left in the business to pay themselves anything, so they'll never get a return on their £50k.

    2. Do the work themselves, like you are doing. So at this point, they have just "bought a job". All they are doing is earning the £15-£20 an hour, which they could go and do at any other job without laying out £50k in advance for the privilige.


    There is no real "business" to sell and certainly not involving business brokers, agents etc (despite what they might tell you if you plug their figures into their "online business valuation tool").

    The quickest and easiest would be, as per your first post, to just sell the cherry picker. The other option, more in line with Marks suggestion, would be to "sell" the business but through the likes of something like Facebook marketplace or through word of mouth with a bit of a nod and a wink and nothing more official than the vehicle transferring. You may well find someone that dreams of the self employed life and has some redundancy money or a divorce separation payout burning a hole in their pocket, and you might squeeze an extra few grand out of them - if the cherry picker truly is worth £35k, you might get someone to give you £40k all in for example.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    bodgitt&scarperLTD

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    The truck looks good but it won't appeal to most people looking to 'buy a business'- all the hassle of HGV licensing and tachos. As others have said, best you can hope for is to sell the truck and a small goodwill payment.

    Or if there's actually any profit in it then send it out with an operator other than you. That's what I'd do- if there was any profit in it. If 26k is your wages then I can tell you you're better off working for someone else! It'll cost you a lot more than that to employ someone with HGV to drive it for you.
     
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    BubbaWY

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    This is my wages.
    My mate drives/operates a cherry picker (for a company) and earns circa £60k a year (though does a lot of hours). Going sole trader, he wouldnt get holiday pay, pension contributions, etc. Unfortunately, as others have said, there is no value to the business, but thats not to say you wont find someone to buy it from you.
     
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    MikeJ

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    As a stand alone business, it's hard to sell. Anyone that's said "just sell the vehicle", are you really saying that a customer list with 90% repeat business is completely worthless? If so, then I don't think a business forum is really for you.

    I'd look for a similar business that this could be added to, and see if they're interested in taking it on. The customer list will add some value to the vehicle.
     
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    Gecko001

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    This seems like a nice little business for someone wanting to set their son up in business. Also, those people taking early retirement with a lump sum to spend or who just want to do something completely different might be interested in it. I knew a teacher who retired early and became an HGV lorry driver. I also know a journalist who retired early and became a van driver.

    Have you thought of adding value to the deal by offering, a period of training by yourself, including accompanying them on the lorry and personally introducing them to existing customers? This might be worth a lot to a potential buyer. Also, be prepared to be totally up front about why you are want to sell.
     
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    Paul Norman

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    Customers are only really of value if they are tied in in some way - through necessity (no competition) or through contract.

    You may find someone who will pay a small premium , but then you are getting into the legal complexities of selling a business vs selling a piece of equipment

    Assuming there is no other facet to the business, I'd suggest you look for top dollar for the kit and *nod and wink* throw in the customer base (GDPR may apply)
    I have been involved in the sale and purchase of a lot of businesses over many years.

    This is the right advice, here.
     
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