Time to borrow dollars?

FireFleur

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The US Federal Reserve (US Central Bank) has just taken interest rates to near 0% ( 0.25 - 0%).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7786282.stm

Is now the time to borrow like it's 1998? and party likes it's 1999 New Year's eve.

Hopefully the rate will be passed onto the high street banks and make its way over the pond, dissavings and good times here we come, smoke me a visa card, I ain't coming home for supper :)
 

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The US Federal Reserve (US Central Bank) has just taken interest rates to near 0% ( 0.25 - 0%).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7786282.stm

Is now the time to borrow like it's 1998? and party likes it's 1999 New Year's eve.

Hopefully the rate will be passed onto the high street banks and make its way over the pond, dissavings and good times here we come, smoke me a visa card, I ain't coming home for supper :)

Isn't this a really bad sign?

To justify this, the fed said:

"the outlook for economic activity has weakened further"

Yet, here we are in a weakening economy and they've already used up all the rate cuts they had available to them.

It's like being in the middle of a gunfight and having used all your bullets. I suppose you could "be optimistic" that the others are ready to stop shooting...

They also said:

"The Federal Reserve will employ all available tools to promote the resumption of sustainable economic growth and to preserve price stability"

What tools?

They've already lost their main tool - control over interest rates - what else do they have?

I guess they can invent money - another tax on the saver who is already paying for the rate cuts - but that'll weaken the dollar and scare off much needed creditors so, I suspect that'll end in tears, too.

(and not just for the savers)

IMO, all these bailouts and "stimuli" teach us is that the government can't remove these problems with the stroke of a pen; all they can do is change who pays off the debts.

And, when they move the debts from the debtors to the savers, they just move the problems from one group of people to another.

Steve

PS I notice the UK bank bailout fell on it's arse on Monday and the terms had to be re-drawn (in the banks' favour, of course).

But, on the plus side, the government managed to announce that without the media really noticing.
 
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FireFleur

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Well the credit crunch is over if you can get a loan :)

Yes normally pessimism has set in by now, and people have told themselves saving for a rainy day is the way, this is an effort to stop them thinking that.

Will it work, well that comes down to individuals, do they want to live in a credit based economy. And it will be interesting to see how much of this is passed on to the final consumer, will people see their CC bill come in with 0%.

Money use to be lent at 0 interest, Merchant of Venice and all that.
 
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DayTM

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I've been buying gold for a couple of years now. Saw all this coming.

The central banks will compete to see who can devalue their currency the most. They'll be printing money like crazy. If we avoid deflation it will be with hyperinflation.

Fortunately they can't print more gold.

I'd like to see the look on the checkout girls face at Tesco when you try paying her with that gold, it'll be priceless. :D
 
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directmarketingadvice

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Yes normally pessimism has set in by now, and people have told themselves saving for a rainy day is the way, this is an effort to stop them thinking that.

Why should they stop thinking that?

Also, are they really saving money? Or are they paying off some of their debt?

The average unsecured debt is around £5,000 per adult in the UK.

IMO, those that have such debts are smart if they're cutting back their spending to pay back some of their credit card balances, loans and overdrafts.

It'll improve their chances of staying solvent and that's more important than buying a Wii Sport.

Steve
 
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FireFleur

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Some will be saving and some will be restructuring debt, there will be a mix going on.

Low interest rates obviously encourage borrowing and the spending of savings, that's the basic idea they have here. The pessimism may be too large though, FUD abounds.
 
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