Teacher in Mohammed Teddybear situation
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Actually, apart from the fact he has more hair than me, the likeness is uncanny
One minute I'll take my glasses off and have another look.
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One minute I'll take my glasses off and have another look.
Best to leave them on - trust me
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Gosh it's not often I am speachless!!
I don't know what to do now - my missus never shuts up - so this is uncharted waters for me..............
Anyway - I can't have that pic for a tattoo - now what?
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really funny dog joke one of my all time favourites.read near a loo
A man had just settled into his seat next to the window on the plane when another man sat down in the aisle seat and put his black Labrador retriever between them.
The first man asked why the dog was allowed on the plane. The second man explained that he was a DEA agent and that the dog was a sniffing dog.
"His name is Sniffer, and he's the best there is," he said. "I'll show you once we get airborne when I put him to work."
The plane took off, and once it had leveled out, the agent said, "Watch this." He told Sniffer to "search."
Sniffer jumped down, walked along the aisle, and finally sat very purposefully next to a woman for several seconds. Sniffer then returned to his seat and put one paw on the agent's arm. The agent said, "Good boy." He turned to the other man and said, "That woman is in possession of marijuana, so I'm making a note of her seat number. The authorities will apprehend her when we land."
"Say, that's pretty neat," replied the first man. Once again, the agent sent Sniffer to search the aisles. The Lab sniffed about, sat down beside a man for a few seconds, returned to his seat and placed two paws on the agent's arm. The agent said, "That man is carrying cocaine, so again, I'm making a note of his seat number for the police."
The agent then told Sniffer to search again. Sniffer walked up and down the aisles for a little while, sat down for a moment, and then came racing back to the agent. He jumped into the middle seat and proceeded to poop all over the place. The first man was really disgusted by this behavior and couldn't figure out why a well-trained dog would act like that, so he asked the agent, "What's going on?" The agent nervously replied, "He just found a bomb!"
A man had just settled into his seat next to the window on the plane when another man sat down in the aisle seat and put his black Labrador retriever between them.
The first man asked why the dog was allowed on the plane. The second man explained that he was a DEA agent and that the dog was a sniffing dog.
"His name is Sniffer, and he's the best there is," he said. "I'll show you once we get airborne when I put him to work."
The plane took off, and once it had leveled out, the agent said, "Watch this." He told Sniffer to "search."
Sniffer jumped down, walked along the aisle, and finally sat very purposefully next to a woman for several seconds. Sniffer then returned to his seat and put one paw on the agent's arm. The agent said, "Good boy." He turned to the other man and said, "That woman is in possession of marijuana, so I'm making a note of her seat number. The authorities will apprehend her when we land."
"Say, that's pretty neat," replied the first man. Once again, the agent sent Sniffer to search the aisles. The Lab sniffed about, sat down beside a man for a few seconds, returned to his seat and placed two paws on the agent's arm. The agent said, "That man is carrying cocaine, so again, I'm making a note of his seat number for the police."
The agent then told Sniffer to search again. Sniffer walked up and down the aisles for a little while, sat down for a moment, and then came racing back to the agent. He jumped into the middle seat and proceeded to poop all over the place. The first man was really disgusted by this behavior and couldn't figure out why a well-trained dog would act like that, so he asked the agent, "What's going on?" The agent nervously replied, "He just found a bomb!"
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Reminds me of a Jasper Carrott sketch. He's visiting his girlfriend's place, thinking what to say to her parents, when the family dog does exactly this. Carrott, wondering why he says it, comes out with "Wow. I wish I could do that." The girl's father replied "Give him a biscuit and I'm sure he'll let you."
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Governments and authorities are becoming more strict in this area. While I disagree with it, I can understand why. A 7-year-old child in the US was banned from school last week from drawing in class a picture of someone holding a gun. A similarly aged child was banned from our local school for a week for bringing a bottle of wine as a gift to his teacher (he's from France and his parents thought it appropriate). Is this strictness (brought in mainly by left-wing politicians) sensible precaution or stupid indoctrination?
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Its probably a bit late in the conversation to raise this point and seen as its such a long post I apologise if someone has already raised this. My point is that the Sudanese leaders do not want British people coming to their country to educate the children!
This incident was the perfect opportunity for them to put everyone off who was even considering doing such a thing. This is not a religious issue as any person with a decent amount of knowledge about religion will know. This is political.
lets put it this way...if the children are educated they will have the knowledge and intellect to stand up to their corrupted leaders and thats the last thing the government wants!
It looks like they have succeded in their mission doesnt it?
This incident was the perfect opportunity for them to put everyone off who was even considering doing such a thing. This is not a religious issue as any person with a decent amount of knowledge about religion will know. This is political.
lets put it this way...if the children are educated they will have the knowledge and intellect to stand up to their corrupted leaders and thats the last thing the government wants!
It looks like they have succeded in their mission doesnt it?
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Hi Steve
Well I think that is where my brain is struggling with society at the moment. Of course we must all be protected from crazy radicals of any type and yes I understand the fear (there are Muslim countries I would not visit) but I wonder if we have gone OTT in our search to find the line between safety and scaremongering. It only takes a very small group in society to tip the balance from peace to fear.
As I say, in my mind there is a distinct difference between thought and deed. Writing poetry, no matter how twisted or revolting, should not lead to arrest but paying money to a terrorist organisation should. One is a thought crime, the other is a deed.
Last night I was thinking back to the days of the IRA, where every Irish accent made the hair on the back of your neck stand up. Of course at the same time the US was holding rally's to raise funds for them and inviting them over to the Whitehouse. The world turns in strange ways and our governments never learn to stop playing chess with peoples lives.
I just wish the world could stop for 48 hours and we could all take stock.
This countries government actively invited radical Islam in, we opened the doors and said "those nasty Muslim people want to arrest and kill you for just being a terrorist and inciting terrorism in the ME, come to us we will look after you because we believe in freedom". A couple of weeks ago our government was desperate to deport one of them to the US, to move the problem on. Perhaps our country was nieve or just plain stupid, I don't know but I hope we have now learnt that lesson. Now, how do we control the monster we invited in?
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I agree it was not religious, it had nothing to do with teddy bears or names. These countries rule by fear and they have no problem using radical Islamists for their own purposes (but of course our government has done the same at times). Britain had called for further sanctions against Sudan, who knows what was 'agreed' behind closed doors yesterday but in one incident Sudan moved the goal posts.
Unfortunately we still have a colonial attitude, we think the 'world' respects us as a country so our citizens are safe to go anywhere - we need to think again. This countries cruel colonial actions over the last couple of hundred years have left some very angry and bitter people out there and we are no longer the 'masters'.
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It has everything to do with religion. Politics and religion are indistinguishable in Islamic countries. Religion forms a big part of their law. Mullahs interpret religious doctrine and judge others on their interpretation of it - this is politics in action.
Even in the UK Bishops are still appointed to parliament and religious 'crimes' like blasphemy forms part of our statute law, albeit largely redundant now. This is the last vestige of how religion ruled politics in europe and is a reminder of the fact that most of the Muslim countries are still organised in that old fashioned and very primitive way.
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Mohammad (peace be upon him - not sacred?
) is the name of the prophet - how can it not be a religious argument? Name the bear Colin, no problem, name it Mohammed, well you know the rest.The argument is mute anyway - the Sudanese law says you're wrong and that's what counts - we both agree that the name Mohammed is not sacred; I think nothing is, you probably differ.
(btw - she was found guilty of insulting Islam, not using the name Mohammad; it's quite easy to build that case if you want to given the stupid law exists).
It's exactly the same for our own Christian zealots trying to prosecute the BBC for blasphemy (a law that still exists even here) over the Jerry Springer Opera.
http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=27105&page=304
We've progressed from the grosser ignorance and superstition of religion but we still have the remnants of it showing in our laws and institutions - they still have it almost fully intact from the 16th century.
We shouldn't be at all surprised when they actually practice what they believe.
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I completely understand and accept that point.
What I am trying to say is that in these cultures there is no distinction between politics and religion. The two are one.
At this stage of Islamic development, religious beliefs are intergral with every aspect of Muslim life - as they were in the christian world until a few hundred years.
We find it very difficult to imagine - in fact impossible- the power that the church held in the UK in the 17th century; they controlled everything. The Catholic church raised taxes and had an army. The Pope was a ruler; politics was bread and butter to it.
It's almost exactly the same in many Islamic countries now - religion is used for political purposes and politcs for religious purposes.
Saying that religion is as 'a cover for politics' misses the point that religion IS politics.
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Ok well I find it hard to get my head around that but you probably know what your talking about so i will take your word for it. I think this whole debate just highlights how important it is to do your home work before travelling to a foreign country whose values and ethics are far different from your own!
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