Starting raffle competition website

Dan1586

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Hi,
I'm thinking of starting my own raffle competition website. I have seen plenty on social media making decent profits.
My question is how do some of them manage to guarantee a draw at a certain date even if they haven't sold all their tickets?
For example I seen one with a cash prize of 5k at £1 a ticket. They stated that even if they only sold 10 tickets they would still do the draw? Are they covered by terms and conditions etc?
It seems if they sold even 3k tickets they could be making huge losses.
 

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Don’t bother @Dan1586. It might seem like an easy way to make money but it’s not. For starters you need to be licensed with the gambling commission.

 
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    You need deep pockets you may think they are all making money but they are not. Do not underestimate how much money you need to throw at this, unless you yourself have a massive online following (and I mean massive)you are going to spend a fortune on advertising and yes if all the tickets are not sold you will be picking up the difference.

    I personally know of two people running online comps one is making a fortune but has been going for years, the other set up two years ago has sustained massive losses as it has just not achieved anywhere near the momentum he hoped for.

    In short very deep pockets required
     
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    Dan1586

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    You need deep pockets you may think they are all making money but they are not. Do not underestimate how much money you need to throw at this, unless you yourself have a massive online following (and I mean massive)you are going to spend a fortune on advertising and yes if all the tickets are not sold you will be picking up the difference.

    I personally know of two people running online comps one is making a fortune but has been going for years, the other set up two years ago has sustained massive losses as it has just not achieved anywhere near the momentum he hoped for.

    In short very deep pockets required
    I don't wish to offer the guarantee that if not all the tickets sold there is still a draw. I wasn't going deep into this I was just thinking it's an easy way to make £50 of each raffle if all the tickets sold. Regarding the gambling licence I'm sure if it's less than 20k in 1 single prize a licence from the gambling commission is not required. I just have to go through my local authority.
    I have seen very basic websites offering prizes in raffles. I can say for sure these people running them have not/do not have a gambling licence.
     
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    I don't wish to offer the guarantee that if not all the tickets sold there is still a draw. I wasn't going deep into this I was just thinking it's an easy way to make £50 of each raffle if all the tickets sold. Regarding the gambling licence I'm sure if it's less than 20k in 1 single prize a licence from the gambling commission is not required. I just have to go through my local authority.
    I have seen very basic websites offering prizes in raffles. I can say for sure these people running them have not/do not have a gambling licence.
    You are unable to run competitions which are dependant on number of tickets sold, it has to go ahead regardless.

    The way you set up the competition also means you don't need to be licensed if you follow a few rules, of free entry and qualifying questions. As you can imagine, schools and all sorts run raffles and competitions without the need of a license.
     
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    I don't wish to offer the guarantee that if not all the tickets sold there is still a draw. I wasn't going deep into this I was just thinking it's an easy way to make £50 of each raffle if all the tickets sold. Regarding the gambling licence I'm sure if it's less than 20k in 1 single prize a licence from the gambling commission is not required. I just have to go through my local authority.
    I have seen very basic websites offering prizes in raffles. I can say for sure these people running them have not/do not have a gambling licence.
    Have you researched the customer-acquisition cost for this?

    I haven't but I'm pretty sure it's massive! Particularly for an unknown name.
     
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    No. You are missing my point.
    I do not wish to offer that. I simply asked how are these competitions offering that there is a guaranteed draw regardless of ticket sales.
    They lie.
     
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    I simply asked how are these competitions offering that there is a guaranteed draw regardless of ticket sales.
    As @WaveJumper already answered above, they pay for the prize and the difference out of their own pocket. So if you don't sell enough tickets to cover the cost of the prizes you have to pay for the difference out of your own savings just like the other people who do this do themselves.
    That is why, as @WaveJumper said you need deep pockets, because it could take you years of running the raffle to build up enough of a following to start to sell enough tickets to cover the prize costs.
     
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    Nick@Daydot

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    They lie.
    That's a bit strong - maybe some do, I don't think they all do. There's a 'guitar giveaway' competition that I used to take part in until I realised that I could have ultimately bought the guitars for less money, but that's how it works.

    They publish the names of the winners and ask for photos the winners that are put on their site. The draw is broadcast live with a Google-based random number generator for the numbers, and then showing the lookup to find who has the winning number. The number of tickets sold for each item is public. They've been running as a limited company since 2019 and the last balance sheet was over £300k.

    And no, I haven't verified that it's not all smoke and mirrors, but it doesn't feel like it.
     
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    Ozzy

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    What trade dose a competition site come under as it’s not gambling a betting do what is it???;(
    Your question is different to this thread, start a new thread for your question and you'll likely find more will see it and may know the answer.
     
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    @Dan1586 I'm a bit late to this discussion so you may have all the answers now but I thought I'd contribute as I build raffle competition sites so have some experience.

    When these guys start out they usually run at a loss, so they fund the prizes for the first few draws until they acquire enough users buying enough tickets to become profitable.

    Contrary to what others have suggested, you don't need a license as long as you follow basic rules, the two main ones being:
    1. You must offer a free postal entry option, and it must be clearly visible on the page (not hidden away somewhere);
    2. You should require that participants answer a question to be able to enter; this makes it skills-based.
    Many don't seem to bother with the second point but it's advisable to - it can be an easy question, with only one obviously correct answer out of, say, three options.

    As others have said, you cannot cancel the draw if you don't sell enough tickets - that's your problem, not the contestants', who have entered in good faith.

    Most do not sell all of the tickets, so they generally make more tickets available than they need to sell. Obviously the longer you've been running and the more members you have the more you will sell each time.

    When you first start out it's hard, as you have no following, but you can run a hype campaign for 3-6 months ahead of launching your site, with just a simple holding page and lots of social media activity, to get people signed up and ready to enter.

    As a newbie you'll need to gain trust, so start small and build steadily. Always do what you say you will do, never give your members any reason not to trust you.

    You will need a website as this builds trust and shows stability, preferably a limited company also foir the same reason. Terms, privacy policy, etc are all important, and contact details too. Running competitions on Facebook without a website is not advisable, and Facebook are pretty hot on policing these types of pages.

    There have been cases of shady operators, but they tend to lose their customers' trust or get shut down pretty quickly.

    The majority of these sites make little or no profit, but that's more due to lack of planning and persistance than lack of demand, as with any other type of business. There are people who are lured by the prospect of easy money, but the reality is (like anything worthwhile) it's hard work.

    When you do the draws, presenting personally on camera is the best way to build trust and gain followers. You need to be committed to providing a service and building a community, this will come across and will make all the difference between success and failure. Look at the others and see how they're doing it.

    So, to get started you will need a prize fund (you cannot expect this to come from entry fees when you have no customers yet) and, optionally, an ad budget (I recommend Facebook ads) to boost that inital momentum.

    Best of luck with it, if you're still considering it - happy to answer any questions if you comment here or DM me.
     
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    @Dan1586 I'm a bit late to this discussion so you may have all the answers now but I thought I'd contribute as I build raffle competition sites so have some experience.

    When these guys start out they usually run at a loss, so they fund the prizes for the first few draws until they acquire enough users buying enough tickets to become profitable.

    Contrary to what others have suggested, you don't need a license as long as you follow basic rules, the two main ones being:
    1. You must offer a free postal entry option, and it must be clearly visible on the page (not hidden away somewhere);
    2. You should require that participants answer a question to be able to enter; this makes it skills-based.
    Many don't seem to bother with the second point but it's advisable to - it can be an easy question, with only one obviously correct answer out of, say, three options.

    As others have said, you cannot cancel the draw if you don't sell enough tickets - that's your problem, not the contestants', who have entered in good faith.

    Most do not sell all of the tickets, so they generally make more tickets available than they need to sell. Obviously the longer you've been running and the more members you have the more you will sell each time.

    When you first start out it's hard, as you have no following, but you can run a hype campaign for 3-6 months ahead of launching your site, with just a simple holding page and lots of social media activity, to get people signed up and ready to enter.

    As a newbie you'll need to gain trust, so start small and build steadily. Always do what you say you will do, never give your members any reason not to trust you.

    You will need a website as this builds trust and shows stability, preferably a limited company also foir the same reason. Terms, privacy policy, etc are all important, and contact details too. Running competitions on Facebook without a website is not advisable, and Facebook are pretty hot on policing these types of pages.

    There have been cases of shady operators, but they tend to lose their customers' trust or get shut down pretty quickly.

    The majority of these sites make little or no profit, but that's more due to lack of planning and persistance than lack of demand, as with any other type of business. There are people who are lured by the prospect of easy money, but the reality is (like anything worthwhile) it's hard work.

    When you do the draws, presenting personally on camera is the best way to build trust and gain followers. You need to be committed to providing a service and building a community, this will come across and will make all the difference between success and failure. Look at the others and see how they're doing it.

    So, to get started you will need a prize fund (you cannot expect this to come from entry fees when you have no customers yet) and, optionally, an ad budget (I recommend Facebook ads) to boost that inital momentum.

    Best of luck with it, if you're still considering it - happy to answer any questions if you comment here or DM me.
    Hi Dan I have just started my competition website and it is definitely hard work I have come here for some tips to sell more tickets /gain trust at the start , I did do the hype before hand and I have ran giveaways etc too. Do you have your own site?
     
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