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UNIPOLAR DC generator. The real potential of the generator is not limited. not defined. One thing is obvious - it is much easier to rotate such a generator under load with a closed circuit than traditional ones. The work of the generator which cannot be you can see on youtube from the user «Freegravity spurt» I am looking for cooperation with an interested party.
 

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The real potential of the generator is not limited.
Well it sort of is. Components will fail if operated outside their design parameters.
 
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UNIPOLAR DC generator. The real potential of the generator is not limited. not defined. One thing is obvious - it is much easier to rotate such a generator under load with a closed circuit than traditional ones. The work of the generator which cannot be you can see on youtube from the user «Freegravity spurt» I am looking for cooperation with an interested party.
The work of a generator is only governed by the amount of load it is generating, and more specifically the amount, or more accurately the angle by which the voltage it generates, leads the loads phase angle....

There is nothing in the world that can change this relationship....it is Purley governed by rules of physics...with some marginal and very minor improvements in rotationalmlosses of the prime mover itself.

And of course....the minor (major( issue of generating in DC....about its only use is charging batteries, as anything else would require VFDs or such, spewing out harmonics with all those losses in the positive, negative and zero sequence harmonics.....conveniently not mentioned here.


Also...using such inverters has abolsuty zero rotational energy, and hence zero rotational reserve...useless for starting anything large....completely useless.
 
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The work of a generator is only governed by the amount of load it is generating, and more specifically the amount, or more accurately the angle by which the voltage it generates, leads the loads phase angle....

There is nothing in the world that can change this relationship....it is Purley governed by rules of physics...with some marginal and very minor improvements in rotationalmlosses of the prime mover itself.

And of course....the minor (major( issue of generating in DC....about its only use is charging batteries, as anything else would require VFDs or such, spewing out harmonics with all those losses in the positive, negative and zero sequence harmonics.....conveniently not mentioned here.


Also...using such inverters has abolsuty zero rotational energy, and hence zero rotational reserve...useless for starting anything large....completely useless.
It is a pity when people try to judge something reveling only in their own vision of the situation. To understand the issue, you would have to read three patents for inventions that were obtained in the EU. As for the technical side of the question - let me ask you - why is science so dumb that it cannot answer elementary questions without which everything that exists seems to be a theory? I will answer - this is only business and a lie is the cause of this problem. And if it is convenient for you to be on the hook of the milking machine of energy networks - this is your right)
 
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I know nothing about generators or DC electricity, but I do know a bit about investment and business relationships.

My advice; stop trying to convince random people about your idea. In particular, stop counter-attacking people who challenge the idea (by all means direct them to good, meaningful info) and start focusing on what you are looking to achieve.

'Co-operaration with an interested party'

What type of cooperation do you have in mind?
What are you expecting them to bring to the party?
Above all, what are you bringing to the party?
 
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why is science so dumb that it cannot answer elementary questions without which everything that exists seems to be a theory? I will answer - this is only business and a lie is the cause of this problem. And if it is convenient for you to be on the hook of the milking machine of energy networks - this is your right)
When any engineer hears talk like that, he/she suspects that we are dealing with someone who is a part of the Nikola-Tesla-Conspiracy group. As justified as some of their claims may be, that is not how one gets investors and manufacturers on board.
I have THREE patents for an invention on this subject)
Now we are talking - that's the sort of thing I do want to hear!

If you point me (via DM if you prefer) at the filings for these patents, I can have a look and assess them for their potential. I have links to an electrical engineering company (market cap $2bn) who are hoovering up patents and other IP as well as whole companies. That might be the sort of thing they would be interested in if it is commercially viable.
 
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When any engineer hears talk like that, he/she suspects that we are dealing with someone who is a part of the Nikola-Tesla-Conspiracy group. As justified as some of their claims may be, that is not how one gets investors and manufacturers on board.

Now we are talking - that's the sort of thing I do want to hear!

If you point me (via DM if you prefer) at the filings for these patents, I can have a look and assess them for their potential. I have links to an electrical engineering company (market cap $2bn) who are hoovering up patents and other IP as well as whole companies. That might be the sort of thing they would be interested in if it is commercially viable.
You are absolutely right! I will think about how to answer you in such a way as to clarify the understanding of the question. I am interested in cooperation and ready to provide - specific devices - working - as well as 2 patent applications - basic - I propose to become a co-author of the invention - submission can only be in England and the USA - I will provide drawings for 9 generator models - all working - that give any current , but rotate more easily than traditional ones - and the answer to why is so very simple - these generators are not electric machines - they cannot work as electric motors under any circumstances - I will also provide drawings for three turbines - it is impossible to say that tidal energy cannot be used - I use this energy in a closed system and the installation can be placed anywhere in the world - it goes without saying that I will give all patent materials for two patent applications. Why this happens with generators - the answer is very simple and fully consistent with physics (otherwise I would not have been given patents, but I will answer this in detail if there is a person who is really interested in cooperation). Three patents for inventions - Kiev, Warsaw, Munich (a pan-European bureau and even in England today there is protection) - this is a sufficient argument to understand that my invention complies with the laws of physics and has the possibility of industrial application.
 
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Nothing new there. I had one of those on my pushbike years ago.
 
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If you have three patents filed with the DPMA in Munich or with the EPO, you can either give me the reg numbers or just send me the filing documents via DM, assuming that they have been granted.

Once I have seen the documents, I can assess them (or have them assessed) and see how best to pitch them with the one-or-other engineering company. I am personally not interested in profiting from this as I have more than enough on my plate with starting two companies at the same time.

But if there is something here worth exploiting, I would like to help you and point you in the right direction and towards people who know how to take a patent and/or an idea and turn it into a business. That would almost certainly be a US company.

In all these sorts of pitches, you explore 10 or 100 and find one that is a goer - but if you do not dig through 100 pitches, you are guaranteed to find nothing!

For those of you playing The Home Game, this is what our protagonist is talking about - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homopolar_generator#Drum-type_generator

I suspect that he has a type of drum dynamo, which is a variation on the Faraday disk, named after its inventor, the incredibly clever Michael Faraday who pretty much discovered electromagnetism, induction and electrolysis, as well as huge chunks of chemistry.
 
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It is a pity when people try to judge something reveling only in their own vision of the situation. To understand the issue, you would have to read three patents for inventions that were obtained in the EU. As for the technical side of the question - let me ask you - why is science so dumb that it cannot answer elementary questions without which everything that exists seems to be a theory? I will answer - this is only business and a lie is the cause of this problem. And if it is convenient for you to be on the hook of the milking machine of energy networks - this is your right)

I literally don't understand what you are saying.
All I know is I am a qualified Electrical engineer, with 2 degrees in the subject and work extensively in this specific field. As such, the points I have raised are valid, based on factual physical not related to energy networks.
 
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You are absolutely right! I will think about how to answer you in such a way as to clarify the understanding of the question. I am interested in cooperation and ready to provide - specific devices - working - as well as 2 patent applications - basic - I propose to become a co-author of the invention - submission can only be in England and the USA - I will provide drawings for 9 generator models - all working - that give any current , but rotate more easily than traditional ones - and the answer to why is so very simple - these generators are not electric machines - they cannot work as electric motors under any circumstances - I will also provide drawings for three turbines - it is impossible to say that tidal energy cannot be used - I use this energy in a closed system and the installation can be placed anywhere in the world - it goes without saying that I will give all patent materials for two patent applications. Why this happens with generators - the answer is very simple and fully consistent with physics (otherwise I would not have been given patents, but I will answer this in detail if there is a person who is really interested in cooperation). Three patents for inventions - Kiev, Warsaw, Munich (a pan-European bureau and even in England today there is protection) - this is a sufficient argument to understand that my invention complies with the laws of physics and has the possibility of industrial application.

The fact you have been granted a patent has no bearing on your claims of improved efficiency.
 
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In the video you quote "turbine rotates due to interaction with the solar syste."


So, it's not that piece of string you have wound round it which you the proceed to pull?

It's hardly inspiring, new, or anything different from what is already well known.
I'm sorry, but we speak different languages) In 1891, a three-phase alternator was presented at an exhibition in Germany. If you are an electrician, then you certainly know why neither the Edison generator nor the Tesla two-phase generator received a ticket to the world market. If you are an electrician, then you know for sure that in an electric motor the source of rotation of the rotor is the electromagnetic interaction of the fields between the stator and the rotor. In this case, please answer me - why waste external energy on rotating the rotor in the current generator in order to overcome the resistance of the electromagnetic interaction between the stator and the rotor, if you can do without it? I will answer you - with such generators on the market, no one will ever have an autonomous consumer. Network monopolies will rule the roost. But there is another side - the planet Earth has changed its mind to continue to receive guests named "people" ... My best wishes to you.
 
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If you have three patents filed with the DPMA in Munich or with the EPO, you can either give me the reg numbers or just send me the filing documents via DM, assuming that they have been granted.

Once I have seen the documents, I can assess them (or have them assessed) and see how best to pitch them with the one-or-other engineering company. I am personally not interested in profiting from this as I have more than enough on my plate with starting two companies at the same time.

But if there is something here worth exploiting, I would like to help you and point you in the right direction and towards people who know how to take a patent and/or an idea and turn it into a business. That would almost certainly be a US company.

In all these sorts of pitches, you explore 10 or 100 and find one that is a goer - but if you do not dig through 100 pitches, you are guaranteed to find nothing!

For those of you playing The Home Game, this is what our protagonist is talking about - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homopolar_generator#Drum-type_generator

I suspect that he has a type of drum dynamo, which is a variation on the Faraday disk, named after its inventor, the incredibly clever Michael Faraday who pretty much discovered electromagnetism, induction and electrolysis, as well as huge chunks of chemistry.
I will not transfer the numbers of my works under indefinite agreements. You perfectly understand that if this is stated, then I have no opportunity to change anything in the patent registers - I will present this information, if necessary, exclusively to people who are really interested in solving an environmental problem through cheap and autonomous electricity for individual consumers.
This is what Siemens does, for example - he asks for patent numbers, and then his technicians and lawyers figure out everything else themselves - both how to build and how to get around legal issues) But even in patent works there is not all the information. Therefore, I offer real products - samples and two new patent applications - for a turbine and for a completely new type of generator. It makes no sense to continue correspondence on this resource - just like trying to evaluate my work - for this you need to see and touch them) And if I have to talk with a specialist - then we can understand each other friend. Without knowing how the weak interaction affects electromagnetism in general, without knowing the source of the weak interaction, but understanding that the laws of thermodynamics do not work at the level of elementary particles, and so on - how can one claim what electricity is? This is ridiculous - you can only know its individual manifestations, but these are not "electricians" at all ... There are no Faraday disks in my designs - everything is much more serious and simpler at the same time.
 
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I'm sorry, but we speak different languages) In 1891, a three-phase alternator was presented at an exhibition in Germany. If you are an electrician, then you certainly know why neither the Edison generator nor the Tesla two-phase generator received a ticket to the world market. If you are an electrician, then you know for sure that in an electric motor the source of rotation of the rotor is the electromagnetic interaction of the fields between the stator and the rotor. In this case, please answer me - why waste external energy on rotating the rotor in the current generator in order to overcome the resistance of the electromagnetic interaction between the stator and the rotor, if you can do without it? I will answer you - with such generators on the market, no one will ever have an autonomous consumer. Network monopolies will rule the roost. But there is another side - the planet Earth has changed its mind to continue to receive guests named "people" ... My best wishes to you.
You are correct....we do speak different languages.

I can only speak from my education, qualifications and experience in this field.....I already am the specialist.

I do not prescribe to, nor understand your chosen language of paranoia regarding "network monopolies". Given that these monopolies would make more money if your invention were true....it makes for a weak argument that the only reason it has not made mainstream production is due to the network operators monopolies.

But to answer your specific question, the reason three phase is used, as apposed to 2 phase, is down to one number.... 1.73 (otherwise known as sqrt 3). If you
Knew anything of which you speak, you would recognise that number.


Now....presumably that little desktop DIY science project isn't the real working prototype have lording?

Where is the working scale.model?

Since you generate DC.....where is your inverter to change it back to AC?

Where do you account for switching losses and harmonics in your claims?
 
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In the video you quote "turbine rotates due to interaction with the solar syste."


So, it's not that piece of string you have wound round it which you the proceed to pull?

It's hardly inspiring, new, or anything different from what is already well known.
in my opinion, you missed a word and distorted the meaning - this is how those who consider themselves traditional electricians pull the rope - after all, it has long been known that ITER is a dead-end project) Outdated) - and serves only to ...) - probably it is pulled by rope are the same traditional electricians? I think they won’t make it - global mastaba catastrophes will begin before this technological junk is completed) - besides, this is only a sample and has no practical further application, - and a lot of money was thrown away - well, traditional electricians need to live somehow ....
 
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in my opinion, you missed a word and distorted the meaning - this is how those who consider themselves traditional electricians pull the rope - after all, it has long been known that ITER is a dead-end project) Outdated) - and serves only to ...) - probably it is pulled by rope are the same traditional electricians? I think they won’t make it - global mastaba catastrophes will begin before this technological junk is completed) - besides, this is only a sample and has no practical further application, - and a lot of money was thrown away - well, traditional electricians need to live somehow ....
In your video, you can literally see you pulling the rope.

The lamps lights up for a brief second.

Do that to any generator and you get the same effect.

FYI....its Electrical Engineer.....not Electrician thank you very much ?
 
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You are correct....we do speak different languages.

I can only speak from my education, qualifications and experience in this field.....I already am the specialist.

I do not prescribe to, nor understand your chosen language of paranoia regarding "network monopolies". Given that these monopolies would make more money if your invention were true....it makes for a weak argument that the only reason it has not made mainstream production is due to the network operators monopolies.

But to answer your specific question, the reason three phase is used, as apposed to 2 phase, is down to one number.... 1.73 (otherwise known as sqrt 3). If you
Knew anything of which you speak, you would recognise that number.


Now....presumably that little desktop DIY science project isn't the real working prototype have lording?

Where is the working scale.model?

Since you generate DC.....where is your inverter to change it back to AC?

Where do you account for switching losses and harmonics in your claims?
well, - what you say - for me is a nightmarish ignorance and swagger. What is the phase shift? What's with the sinusoids? What's with the inverters? Sorry, but I wish you all the best in your work and your understanding of electricity.
 
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I use this energy in a closed system and the installation can be placed anywhere in the world
If this is the case surely you can show the system in operation and generating constant AC (or even just DC would be a start). By this I mean after pulling the string to spin up the generator you need to show it continue to rotate.
Without knowing how the weak interaction affects electromagnetism in general....
Not sure what you are saying here. Electroweak interactions have been known about and understood for years
 
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In your video, you can literally see you pulling the rope.

The lamps lights up for a brief second.

Do that to any generator and you get the same effect.

FYI....its Electrical Engineer.....not Electrician thank you very much ?
the whole problem is that I can’t put it in your hands for you to touch ... - you would become the first and most active promoter of this thing)))
 
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If this is the case surely you can show the system in operation and generating constant AC (or even just DC would be a start). By this I mean after pulling the string to spin up the generator you need to show it continue to rotate.

Not sure what you are saying here. Electroweak interactions have been known about and understood for years
really - maybe the graviton was already discovered in the collider and dark matter was found - I probably missed something)
 
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the whole problem is that I can’t put it in your hands for you to touch ... - you would become the first and most active promoter of this thing)))

The problem is that I have studied and worked in this field for 3 decades.

I understand the technology, the principles and the science behind your claims, and now them to be untrue, factually incorrect and physically impossible.

I don't need to touch something to become a fan.....I just need to see something that is factually correct and scientifically possible.

Let's try this....your 6oo watt lamp in your video....how many Watts of energy, does it the to turn your turbine to produce the 600 Watts of energy that cause your light to illuminate. Prove those numbers to me...and then I will not only be your biggest fan, but I will introduce you to my customer and contacts and we will together build thousands of these and make you very wealthy.
 
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well, - what you say - for me is a nightmarish ignorance and swagger. What is the phase shift? What's with the sinusoids? What's with the inverters? Sorry, but I wish you all the best in your work and your understanding of electricity.
The fact you don't know those words, is proof you don't know the first thing about this subject matter.....literally, nothing not even basics.

You have just proven yourself to be at best a chancer at worst and out and out fraud.
 
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really - maybe the graviton was already discovered in the collider and dark matter was found - I probably missed something)
What has that to do with electroweak interactions?

(My BSc was in electromagnetism and quantum mechanics so I do understand the topic).
 
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The fact you don't know those words, is proof you don't know the first thing about this subject matter.....literally, nothing not even basics.

You have just proven yourself to be at best a chancer at worst and out and out fraud.
It is important to understand - who exactly is the liar and fraudster - Giordano Bruno, or the Inquisition?

The factor "the square root of 3" (approximately 1.732) is going to find itself, one way or another, into any calculation that involves three phase systems. It's a wedge driven into the mind. This is absolute stupidity ... Systems - the systems themselves can be completely different! We are talking about the generation method, and not the only one used on the market!

Such statements of yours only emphasize the misunderstanding of the issue and are absolutely indifferent to me. This is how the Inquisition burned at the stake those who said that the Earth was round, revolved around the Sun, or wanted to fly like a bird. Today it all turns out to be a reality - this is a visual difference between conservative ignorance and truth.

In 1903, the Wright brothers flew only a few tens of meters. Their whatnot was far from modern Boeings. What is the essence of their discovery - they discovered the three dimensions of flight control? They opened a new era. After 100 years, the most modern aircraft fly in exactly the same way. It does not matter that the aircraft are very different in appearance - they fly on the same principle.

Using a three-phase current generator to generate electricity - as a kind of "electric machine" - this is the period before the discovery of three-dimensional flight control)

The high price of hydrocarbons - like the "price" in general - is an artificial nonsense - it's the same as the right to take money for breathing air. Everything that is created by the planet Earth and outer space cannot be an object of individual rights. This also applies to electricity - there is plenty of it around and each consumer can have their own generating station. The only question is who will produce and sell them)))

Everything that is written below corresponds to the only rail on which a person stands with a single convolution in his head ... and the square root of three)))

Amps when Voltage and HP are known: (Horsepower * 746) / (Volts * Efficiency (.85) * Power Factor (.80) * 1.73) Amps when Voltage and Kilowatts are known: (Kilowatts * 1000) / (Volts * Power Factor (PF) * 1.73) Kilowatts when Voltage and Amps are known: (Volts * Amps * PF * 1.73) / 1000 Kilovolt-Amperes (KVA) when Voltage and Amps are known: (Volts * Amps * 1.73) / 1000 Horsepower when Voltage and Amps are known: (Volts * Amps * Efficiency % * PF * 1.73) / 746

Asking a question about 1.73 and trying to be smart against this background, a person does not even notice that he claims to be the highest rank of professor of the Inquisition - since he does not see anything else under his nose at all ...

You still need to remember about efficiency. Let's say that generators over 100 kW have an efficiency above 90%. At the same time, I affirm that the device I propose has an efficiency higher than 33% compared to traditional ones. And you will say - this is impossible - but it will be just another lie)

If you wanted to be constructive, you would know what the number 1.41 means - and how 12 double phases form any frequency.)))
 
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All just words. Show us a working generator.
 
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It is important to understand - who exactly is the liar and fraudster - Giordano Bruno, or the Inquisition?

The factor "the square root of 3" (approximately 1.732) is going to find itself, one way or another, into any calculation that involves three phase systems. It's a wedge driven into the mind. This is absolute stupidity ... Systems - the systems themselves can be completely different! We are talking about the generation method, and not the only one used on the market!

Such statements of yours only emphasize the misunderstanding of the issue and are absolutely indifferent to me. This is how the Inquisition burned at the stake those who said that the Earth was round, revolved around the Sun, or wanted to fly like a bird. Today it all turns out to be a reality - this is a visual difference between conservative ignorance and truth.

In 1903, the Wright brothers flew only a few tens of meters. Their whatnot was far from modern Boeings. What is the essence of their discovery - they discovered the three dimensions of flight control? They opened a new era. After 100 years, the most modern aircraft fly in exactly the same way. It does not matter that the aircraft are very different in appearance - they fly on the same principle.

Using a three-phase current generator to generate electricity - as a kind of "electric machine" - this is the period before the discovery of three-dimensional flight control)

The high price of hydrocarbons - like the "price" in general - is an artificial nonsense - it's the same as the right to take money for breathing air. Everything that is created by the planet Earth and outer space cannot be an object of individual rights. This also applies to electricity - there is plenty of it around and each consumer can have their own generating station. The only question is who will produce and sell them)))

Everything that is written below corresponds to the only rail on which a person stands with a single convolution in his head ... and the square root of three)))

Amps when Voltage and HP are known: (Horsepower * 746) / (Volts * Efficiency (.85) * Power Factor (.80) * 1.73) Amps when Voltage and Kilowatts are known: (Kilowatts * 1000) / (Volts * Power Factor (PF) * 1.73) Kilowatts when Voltage and Amps are known: (Volts * Amps * PF * 1.73) / 1000 Kilovolt-Amperes (KVA) when Voltage and Amps are known: (Volts * Amps * 1.73) / 1000 Horsepower when Voltage and Amps are known: (Volts * Amps * Efficiency % * PF * 1.73) / 746

Asking a question about 1.73 and trying to be smart against this background, a person does not even notice that he claims to be the highest rank of professor of the Inquisition - since he does not see anything else under his nose at all ...

You still need to remember about efficiency. Let's say that generators over 100 kW have an efficiency above 90%. At the same time, I affirm that the device I propose has an efficiency higher than 33% compared to traditional ones. And you will say - this is impossible - but it will be just another lie)

If you wanted to be constructive, you would know what the number 1.41 means - and how 12 double phases form any frequency.)))

Yawning


And you still only have a DIY generator that you have to pull using a bit of string, that only lights a 600w lamp for 5 seconds.

I can't help but wonder why you haven't managed to build an actuall working model yet.....actually, that's a lie, I know why you haven't but an actual working model yet.
 
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Why show - let's better test it - get the results and compare with any traditional electric machine. I suggest starting with three models. They are all different. I also bet that the results will surprise you.
 
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In response to your previous...
1 41 is approximately the multiple that a DC link operates in an inverter. This is after an 3phase AC is passed through a bridge rectifier, over diodes. This is nothing to do with your system, as all you are able to generate is the voltage for he DC bus system.

Your reference to using 12 double phases suggest some tyoe of inverter. We would usually use 3 phases for this....again, for reasons you don't even understand.

But I have asked you this before. There are switching losses in an inverter. Where are these losses considered in your equation that your generator is more efficient?

Am inverter uses IGBTs to switch DC to create a very square waved tyoe AC. Two issues around here.
1)already mentioned harmonics
2) literally most types of consumer elcwont work on this type of wave. Basically anything that has a rectifier that operates itself on DC won't like the squared type AC wave. That's why, we only use inverters on things like motors. Even then, we are very selective on which type of motor as the harsh square wave damages the insulation of the windings.


But again......all you have is a desktop DIY project that can only just about light a lamp. I have seen better school science projects than your example.

I don't have the time to continue with this thread......today, we are repairing a 300kw inverter. Once you get a proper working model, with some real numbers then let's talk. Untill then, you can't even cook a meal on what you have produced, though I suppose it does save on the heating, as you can keep pulling that sting to get a flicker of light.
 
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