Started up a property deal sourcing company?

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petrolheadno1

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I have started off in property as a deal sourcer where I source below market value properties through agents and directly through agents for investors where they can invest and make a return through flipping or converting into an HMO.

Is it a good idea to have a niche of coastal properties in UK?

Second question is is it a good idea to create a travel vlog on YouTube where I visit all the towns and show the best tourist attractions, view points, pubs, seafront? So like a travel vlog. Will that help me to build a brand and my goal is to obtain investment from investor to find projects on deal where I can make a profit.
 

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@petrolheadno1 - why can’t an investor just source the properties themselves? Why do they need you?

Why do you think an investor will be the slightest bit interested in your travel blog?
 
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As fast as you try to restrict yourself to coastal properties, you will be offered properties further and further inland if this takes off... why restrict yourself?

OK, you can slant your marketing towards coastal areas... which is where your vlog idea comes in....

As I read your post, most of the content you suggest for the vlog sounds more related to tourism which doesnt really fit with what a property investor will be looking for, unless they are maybe considering an Airbnb type set up. Consequently you are unlikely to be driving much worthwhile traffic to more important areas of your business. I like the basic idea but it needs a bit more development
 
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@petrolheadno1 - why can’t an investor just source the properties themselves? Why do they need you?

Why do you think an investor will be the slightest bit interested in your travel blog?
There have been lot of YouTubers who have said they have earned £3000 to £5000 per deal and courses on how to do it. Also many investors don't have time so look for deals so they pay services of a deal sourcer.
 
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As fast as you try to restrict yourself to coastal properties, you will be offered properties further and further inland if this takes off... why restrict yourself?

OK, you can slant your marketing towards coastal areas... which is where your vlog idea comes in....

As I read your post, most of the content you suggest for the vlog sounds more related to tourism which doesnt really fit with what a property investor will be looking for, unless they are maybe considering an Airbnb type set up. Consequently you are unlikely to be driving much worthwhile traffic to more important areas of your business. I like the basic idea but it needs a bit more development
A lot of content creator coaches say if you are talking to everyone, you are talking to no body. Plus there are travel vloggers who specialize in France, Italy and various other places, and they have had tons of views. Also I like coastal towns so as I will speak about something that appeals to me people will connect with me on a deeper level.
 
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There have been lot of YouTubers who have said they have earned £3000 to £5000 per deal and courses on how to do it.
They are mostly lying.
 
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their stories do tend to contain detail and colour including emotions. Are you saying they are all fabricated?
Most of them yes. They make money from views not by sourcing property.
 
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I have started off in property as a deal sourcer where I source below market value properties through agents and directly through agents for investors where they can invest and make a return through flipping or converting into an HMO.

Is it a good idea to have a niche of coastal properties in UK?

Second question is is it a good idea to create a travel vlog on YouTube where I visit all the towns and show the best tourist attractions, view points, pubs, seafront? So like a travel vlog. Will that help me to build a brand and my goal is to obtain investment from investor to find projects on deal where I can make a profit.
If investors are your target market, I doubt you'll reach them and convince them about your competence with posting travel vlogs. They are not interested in your ability to research local flair and entertain with your take on sightseeing. They want you to demonstrate business savvy, financial understanding, your approach to risk management and ability to execute projects.

You must choose your 'toolkit' for the 'job' you want to undertake. Travel blogging is not the right 'toolkit' to obtain investment. BTW, your choice of words suggest that you are focused on "obtaining investment". It doesn't suggest a customer oriented approach. Are you in the "obtaining investment' business, or are you in the "delivering great returns for investors" business? You may need to do some 're-wiring' if you want to be successful with investors. Good luck!
 
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Good for you :) looking for opportunities and ways to get into property. However .... speaking as someone who has been a property investor and been involved in various property businesses for over 20 years, listen to the good advice already offered in this thread.

The only factors that would have made me invest in a property are price, rental yield and growth potential. I wouldn’t have trusted someone’s blog or vlog for that information, I would get that from my own sources.

The YouTube guys who claim to be able to show you how to make £3-£5K deals, are most likely not making any money from property deals themselves. They make their money from selling you massively expensive courses and classes. They start small and then use extreme hard-sell techniques to get you to pay thousands. I would say it rarely works out well for the people who buy the courses and they only person who makes any money is the guy who is selling the courses. Google and read about Glenn Armstrong, Phil Martin to name a few.

This is an extremely ruthless and cutthroat industry, mainly unregulated and flooded with deal sourcers already. I would not recommend going down this route at all, sorry.
 
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    There have been lot of YouTubers who have said they have earned £3000 to £5000 per deal and courses on how to do it.

    You only have to ask two simple questions;

    1. If these YouTubers are making £3000 - £5000 per month, why on earth would they not just keep on making that (and more), instead of wasting their time selling you a course for £299?

    2. If there are as many opportunities out there as they say, why would they want to give them away to other people? Why let you earn £3000 per month when they could earn £6000 - £10,000? Or £9000 - £15,000.


    Think about those very carefully.
     
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    As fast as you try to restrict yourself to coastal properties, you will be offered properties further and further inland if this takes off... why restrict yourself?

    OK, you can slant your marketing towards coastal areas... which is where your vlog idea comes in....

    As I read your post, most of the content you suggest for the vlog sounds more related to tourism which doesnt really fit with what a property investor will be looking for, unless they are maybe considering an Airbnb type set up. Consequently you are unlikely to be driving much worthwhile traffic to more important areas of your business. I like the basic idea but it needs a bit more development
    Yes AirBNB and serviced accommodation. The reason I want to go down the route of travel vlogging is I love coastal towns and people come to me for advice and as I'm passionate about it that would help me to connect with people. I also feels that fits with me as people want to connect with me.

    I like wearing a bowler hat so I will call myself "The Gent by The Sea" or "The Property Gent". This will reflect as part of my branding and make me memorable.

    I'm confident on Youtube I will get views for the content I will create, I am also comfortable to approach and interview locals as I did that for my previous channel to do with dating where I got women's opinions for mens dating problems. I was also able to get a TV slot and a slot on radio as a guest on cultural shows.
     
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    None of which has any relevance to your chosen business idea which is property sourcing. I’m sure your videos will get views but not from potential investors.
     
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    None of which has any relevance to your chosen business idea which is property sourcing. I’m sure your videos will get views but not from potential investors.
    What if I produce the videos as I will be travelling there anyway and tell everyone I meet at networking events that I am a YouTuber who films about coastal towns.
     
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    What if I produce the videos as I will be travelling there anyway and tell everyone I meet at networking events that I am a YouTuber who films about coastal towns.
    Do you really think a property developer or investor is interested in watching you wander around skidrow-on-sea in a bowler hat?

    What they want is alerts on their phones, emails and links to a database where they can see the details. If you really want to do you tube stuff do a video tour of the property.
     
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    petrolheadno1

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    What if you do do that? What do you think it will achieve? Or what do you WANT it to achieve?
    Im sure it will want people to connect and know more about me, as not many people in a networking event have a YouTube channel, so in that way i will stand out. Also cuz I wear a bowler or boater hat in summer and dress sharp, it will make me stand out and I call myself "the property gent" or "gent by the sea". Im sure this will make me memorable.
     
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    Do you really think a property developer or investor is interested in watching you wander around skidrow-on-sea in a bowler hat?

    What they want is alerts on their phones, emails and links to a database where they can see the details. If you really want to do you tube stuff do a video tour of the property.
    Ok I will include that too.
     
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    petrolheadno1

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    Do you really think a property developer or investor is interested in watching you wander around skidrow-on-sea in a bowler hat?

    What they want is alerts on their phones, emails and links to a database where they can see the details. If you really want to do you tube stuff do a video tour of the property.
    Funny enough you say that there is some geeza in Bolton who goes to takeaways like a fish and chip shop and eats there and gives a review on their food and he has got views in 10000s.
     
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    Funny enough you say that there is some geeza in Bolton who goes to takeaways like a fish and chip shop and eats there and gives a review on their food and he has got views in 10000s.
    That's fish and chips. Property sourcing is somewhat different. Investors and developers won't be on youtube looking for place to buy.

    But if you think this will work then crack on. Not going to stop you wearing your hat in Scarborough. You do need to sort out your website though.
     
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    That's fish and chips. Property sourcing is somewhat different. Investors and developers won't be on youtube looking for place to buy.

    But if you think this will work then crack on. Not going to stop you wearing your hat in Scarborough. You do need to sort out your website though.
    Oh I am confident about that. I wore my bowler hat in Bradford when I was there.
     
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    I have started off in property as a deal sourcer where I source below market value properties through agents and directly through agents for investors where they can invest and make a return through flipping or converting into an HMO.

    Is it a good idea to have a niche of coastal properties in UK?

    Second question is is it a good idea to create a travel vlog on YouTube where I visit all the towns and show the best tourist attractions, view points, pubs, seafront? So like a travel vlog. Will that help me to build a brand and my goal is to obtain investment from investor to find projects on deal where I can make a profit.
    Always a good idea to have a niche but you'd need to carry out your own market research to understand whether coastal properties are what your target market is looking for.

    Why do you feel you need to create a travel vlog - very expensive and time consuming for you - what value does that create for your potential clients ?
     
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    I’ve just watched one of your videos on Instagram where you describe a property you’ve just viewed in Manningtree and absolutely nothing you say would appeal to a property investor

    You go on and on about how great Manningtree is (which I am sure it is) and how lovely the garden is, how nice it will be in the summer, the great BBQs you could have blah blah blah none of that is relevant unless you are trying to sell the house to a buyer. That’s not what a property deal sourcer is.

    If you are trying to package attractive property deals to investors they want to know the price, what work is required, how much below market value it is, what rental yield can be achieved, is there interest in the area, how long has it been on the market and ultimately what profit they can achieve long term

    Selling houses and selling property deals to investors are two completely different things

    If you want to go down this YouTube personal brand route I would suggest getting a job as an estate agent because you might well be in with a shout of being successful with that
     
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    Suspect the OP is long gone to be honest but nonetheless.... I just had a look at the website and Instagram.

    One of my hobbies is travelling around the UK and I would say I am quite travelled in the cities and towns and one of the things I tend to do even 10 years ago walking into estate agents as I was curious about how much the homes go for and rent in the area. I also visited kitchen and bathroom showrooms to explore different designs and something to captivate my brain. Now when I am walking around I have an estate agent radar that beeps at the right time.

    If I was a property investor looking to source properties, the fact that you "travel around the UK for a hobby" and "walk into estate agents" wouldn't exactly float my boat. Nor do I care on your opinion on kitchens or bathrooms.

    The whole thing seems a bit.... childish, to be frank.

    I would agree with the above that in fact you might be better suited in an estate agent role rather than property sourcing.
     
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