servers?

[ryan2109]

what is the difference between uk and usa servers and what is best can someone please help?

 

[kyber]

Do you mean web/email hosting services located in the UK or USA?

USA based options tend to be cheaper and have better bandwidth (to the USA) at least but you usually have to pay in US currency and all the standard elements are not customised fo the UK in anyway. Also retention of EU customer data on USA based servers is not allowed (although many do it) unless various hoops have been jumped through.

I would say you can probably get a better personal business service by going to one of the hosters represented on this forum.

What is it you are looking for?

Stuart

 

[Richard Conyard]

US are sometimes cheaper. However if you're in the UK why not go with a company you can pick the phone up and talk to without paying international rates?

There are some good hosting companies on here, do a search or speak to matrixx

 

[SuffolkDesigns]

We have both UK and US servers, some clients prefer to be located on one rather than the other as they say it speeds up the loading of sites, however I believe that the diference would be so slight that you wouldn't really notice it anyway.

The US offers cheaper bandwidth, not necessarily better bandwidth.

If you are located in UK and most of your visitors are from UK then maybe a UK server would have slight benifits over a US server as the routing should be shorter so there will be fewer network issues preventing the sites on the server from loading for your clients. But also, networks are so good nowadays that this probably wouldn't make much difference anyway......

 

[TWD-Tony]

Generally speaking - from a basic website point of view (customer data and legal stuff aside). If you own a country specific TLD (.co.uk for example) then you can host it anywhere... If you are using a generic TLD (like .com or .net) then it will be hard to be listed in "UK Only Searches" on search engines if you are hosted outside of the UK.

The search engines firstly look at the domain extension (eg .co.uk) to see where a website is located, if it cannot tell by that then it goes off the IP address of the server - so if you have a .com website hosted in the USA - Google will think that it is a USA website :wink:

Tech side of things - USA servers are just plain better £ per Gb... They are cheaper, hosted in better equiped data centers and have better connectivity (In my honest opion).

 

[Rob Holmes]

US are sometimes cheaper. However if you're in the UK why not go with a company you can pick the phone up and talk to without paying international rates?

There are some good hosting companies on here, do a search or speak to matrixx

We supply both UK and US servers.

The main difference (except a milliseconds response time) is volume of data and possible you'll get a higher spec machine for the same money in the US - but if a servers configured right this makes very little difference.

Both our UK and US servers are hands on i.e. I can have an engineer in either datacentre and hands on the server if theres a problem.

Our US servers offer a very high quality of bandwidth as we host in a level3 datacentre in Beverley Hills.

We'd be happy to chat things through with you. Our prices are a little higher than some but we do all the server maintenance AND monitor uptime with sms alerts included to you and us as part of the package - and no hidden extras.

Rob

 

[TWD-Tony]

US are sometimes cheaper. However if you're in the UK why not go with a company you can pick the phone up and talk to without paying international rates?

There are some good hosting companies on here, do a search or speak to matrixx

We supply both UK and US servers.

The main difference (except a milliseconds response time) is volume of data and possible you'll get a higher spec machine for the same money in the US - but if a servers configured right this makes very little difference.

Both our UK and US servers are hands on i.e. I can have an engineer in either datacentre and hands on the server if theres a problem.

We'd be happy to chat things through with you. Our prices are a little higher but we do all the server maintenance AND monitor uptime with sms alerts included to you and us as part of the package - and no hidden extras.

Rob

Hang on a minute... I thought this was a Business FORUM for people to ask and answer questions, not Matrixx's marketplace.
I was beggining to like this place until I realised it just a place for moderators to sell things...

Why can't people just give advice without pushing the hard sell all the time? This guy just wanted to know the difference in UK & USA servers - How is that an invite to "come chat with us and we will sell you something..."?

RANT OVER - I'LL GET MY COAT. :roll:

 

[Richard Conyard]

It's not really a hard sell Tony is it? I mentioned that there were multiple companies, I also mentioned Rob because he's the first that came to mind.

And you're right it is a business forum and a question like that is normally asked when looking at buying hosting, so why not answer step 2 at the same time as step one.

 

[Rob Holmes]

Hang on a minute... I thought this was a Business FORUM for people to ask and answer questions, not Matrixx's marketplace.
I was beggining to like this place until I realised it just a place for moderators to sell things...

Why can't people just give advice without pushing the hard sell all the time? This guy just wanted to know the difference in UK & USA servers - How is that an invite to "come chat with us and we will sell you something..."?

RANT OVER - I'LL GET MY COAT. :roll:

I answered his question and offered a chat over the phone. Thats not 'hard sell' or 'all the time' :shock:

It's a fair post IMHO - direct but fair - the forums are certainly not set up for moderators to get biz in - if I did it for that reason I'd have stopped a long time ago. I moderate in order to help other businesses and share the 8 years of hard slog I've done with others so hopefully they can do it quicker ith less mistakes!

Rob

 

[TWD-Tony]

Okay - for the sake of being diplomatic - I apologise for my comments.

Everyone is entitled to a "bad day" and I am big enough and wise enough to realise that I shouldn't be blowing off steam on a public forum.

But my point of view is valid... I have the utmost respect for Matrixx - he has built up a good company and certainly knows his stuff... But if you go back through the forum threads the same thing happens every time hosting is mentioned, either Matrixx jumps in with "we can supply that..." or everybody jumps on the "PM Matrix, he'll sort you out..." bandwagon.
I realise the matrixx is indeed a respected member and moderator on UKBF - but why oh why do people just automatically post the words "Have a word with Matrixx" all the time????
It's both annoying and frustrating! I am NOT a "kiddie host" or a "here today, gone tomorrow" business... I'm in this to make a decent living just like the majority of us... If the tables were turned and you were having your hard work and business ignored because a mod was in the same line of business then you would start to feel the same why I do now...

Anyway - This is taking this thread WAY off topic and its my fault i know... So sorry guys!

Tony

 

[Rob Holmes]

Hi Tony,

No probs m8 - I certainly don't ask people to recommend me on the forums but am really grateful when they do and I generally recommend others when responding to something like this - although this time the others (You and VS) had already posted!

Actually I tend to lose business as a moderator rather than gain it because I have to keep the sales side of me quiet and not abuse my moderator position.

Easier said than done when you're really keen to help people

Anyway I hope your day gets better!

No hard feelings

Rob

 

[TWD-Tony]

Hi Tony,

No probs m8 - I certainly don't ask people to recommend me on the forums but am really grateful when they do and I generally recommend others when responding to something like this - although this time the others (You and VS) had already posted!

Actually I tend to lose business as a moderator rather than gain it because I have to keep the sales side of me quiet and not abuse my moderator position.

Easier said than done when you're really keen to help people

Anyway I hope your day gets better!

No hard feelings

Rob

No hard feelngs mate :wink:

You of all people will realise how hard it is in this business - there are far to many "bad hosts" than good ones, if you have a reputation like you do for providing good value & service then good on 'ya
I just finding it annoying at times because you have got the reputation as "the hosting guy..." but it's something I am going to have live with I suppose :?

Again, no hard feelngs....

Tony

 

[ryan2109]

thanks for your comments

 

[SuffolkDesigns]

I just finding it annoying at times because you have got the reputation as "the hosting guy..."

I thought that was me :lol: :lol:

I use these forums as I enjoy doing so more than as a place to attract sales, I think this has also had something to do with attracting the clients that have chosen me from this forum. I know I for one tend to ignore the people that blatently advertise their services in response to a question, which does seem to happen alot, and I expect that alot of other forum users do the same.

Rob does offer good advise on the forums and I believe that he would be willing to spend time on the phone to help someone out, even if they were not a client. It is this type of dedication that is needed to survive in the hosting industry.

Although I would argue against Rob's "no hidden extras", I am sure there is a Rob clone hidden away somewhere to allow him to spend so much time on these forums :wink: :lol: