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SEO.....SEO's in this section .. on the SEO section. Naah no SEO's here all in the pub.
What do you need to know? happy to help.
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I can get you 1 million backlinks in google for $1
I also specialise in search engine submission (700 or so) that way you'll be on all of the search engines ever.
My other services are article spinning; I turn one mediocre article into 1,000 articles stuffed with backlinks then submit them to "high authority"* websites. And my specialist link farms where I grow you links and feed them up them shoot them full of steroids.
*based on a ranking system dependant on whatever I feel
I also specialise in search engine submission (700 or so) that way you'll be on all of the search engines ever.
My other services are article spinning; I turn one mediocre article into 1,000 articles stuffed with backlinks then submit them to "high authority"* websites. And my specialist link farms where I grow you links and feed them up them shoot them full of steroids.
*based on a ranking system dependant on whatever I feel
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For DIY SEO you need an un-biased accurate baseline so consider buying a book such as The Art of SEO. Armed with dependable info you will then have a reliable bullshit filter and you can then read all the *wonderful* stuff on all the *fantastic* websites created to help you dominate Google.
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when you get your site live if you can offer me an anchor text link in your footer (electricians in birmingham) i can offer you a few relevant links on a few different sites. thats a large portion of seo backlinks. if you stick around on this forum you will get some good info.
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You can get to No1, sure - but you won't stay there. Too many websites all competing for your keyword see, so the question is this - how many electricians are out there trying to rank and stay at No1 for your keywords....
Trouble is Google only has 10 SERP slots on page 1, (30 in total for the first three pages, if you count that as standing out?) so you'll need to rank for a lot of keywords for it to work, which is very expensive to do, and probably cost you thousands.
I assume you and everyone else wants an instant result? then paid advertising will get you that. The SERPS isn't the long-term supplier everyone thinks it is, the traffic can be good, but the return in enquiries/conversions isn't what you think it will be or what is sold to you.
You're better of buying some solid weblinks on good websites, getting related links and invent content/advice pages for your site to be indexed - but even this won't help that much, so you'll end up buying links anyway, just like the majority has to.
Basically, you need a ton of links to maintain your position in the SERPS.... Seriously, I haven't sat at No1 for years, and am at No4 for one keyword, so its okay, but just beware of the SEO crap that's about, as you'll never get perfection, its just unrealistic with the competiton that's about.
electricians uk
63 pages = 630 websites/web pages all battling for the word Electricians UK.... and that's not the top search words either. So assuming a huge drop in say 3 months time, you could be sat on page 30 or more, and how many actually go that deep looking for electricians? not many I'd suggest.
So you'll need a lot of keywords
Trouble is Google only has 10 SERP slots on page 1, (30 in total for the first three pages, if you count that as standing out?) so you'll need to rank for a lot of keywords for it to work, which is very expensive to do, and probably cost you thousands.
I assume you and everyone else wants an instant result? then paid advertising will get you that. The SERPS isn't the long-term supplier everyone thinks it is, the traffic can be good, but the return in enquiries/conversions isn't what you think it will be or what is sold to you.
You're better of buying some solid weblinks on good websites, getting related links and invent content/advice pages for your site to be indexed - but even this won't help that much, so you'll end up buying links anyway, just like the majority has to.
Basically, you need a ton of links to maintain your position in the SERPS.... Seriously, I haven't sat at No1 for years, and am at No4 for one keyword, so its okay, but just beware of the SEO crap that's about, as you'll never get perfection, its just unrealistic with the competiton that's about.
electricians uk
63 pages = 630 websites/web pages all battling for the word Electricians UK.... and that's not the top search words either. So assuming a huge drop in say 3 months time, you could be sat on page 30 or more, and how many actually go that deep looking for electricians? not many I'd suggest.
So you'll need a lot of keywords
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But you could try these for some related links:
http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=el...&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=6fcfcc50c300c1b7
http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=el...&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=6fcfcc50c300c1b7
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There are some steps you can take yourself at little or no cost apart from your time.
The first is have a look at competitors sites. Do what you think they do well.
The second is design a clean, easy to view simple web site.
The third is put information on it that your customers may find helpful: safety tips, prices, etc. the sort of stuff that might keep them engaged for a minute or two reading.
Make sure you use words that people would search for. (But dont over use them)
Fourth is register you site on Googe maps.
Fifth: put google analytics on your site so you can check who is visiting.
Sixth: register in forums that your customers might read. Provide articles with you company web site and terms you expect people to search for next to that link: software for flexible staff management and temp staffing agencies
Do this on a regular basis.
Of course all this takes time. Cost out your time. May be an SEO company can do it more effectively and ultimately at lower cost. There ia an article on DIY Seo on our site with some hints.
Hope this helps, if it does click thanks
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I doubt theres a sparky in the UK who is interested in being number one for "electricians uk" well yes there may be some big countrywide group etc but majority of the regular people get their trade relatively locally which as has been said time and again isn't that hard to rank for not least using google local business and if that fails, PPC.......
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But the company wants to be Electrician County Durham (or similar) and already has first page for PAT Testing localities... The London comparison isn't really a good one
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London is the top UK County, so other results under different counties will either match that of London or do worse..
The trades use offline advertising eg: Yellow pages etc.
There can't be that many keyword/phrases that will work, as the more unnatural the search, the less effective it will be. People will type in
Electrician
Electrician in whatever county, town
these are the most obvious... anything else is silly.
The trades use offline advertising eg: Yellow pages etc.
There can't be that many keyword/phrases that will work, as the more unnatural the search, the less effective it will be. People will type in
Electrician
Electrician in whatever county, town
these are the most obvious... anything else is silly.
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Not all do - I have a client who gets the majority of his work through the website and referrals - he doens't need anything else. People actually find it really hard to locate a good PAT Tester and normally book them year after year (or two or 5) depending on what they need testing.
Pat testing and others convert because that is what they are looking for... he has actually traveled the country for small hotel chains who couldn't find a local tester to come and do the work...
Silly?... Maybe.. Profitable?..Definitely
Just my tuppenceEmma
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Well no one goes past the first one when everything they need is on page 1.
The term electrician london isn't that hard it would take about 3 months of a few links and a bit of content tweaking.
I am slowly crawling up on page one for "electrician birmingham" and im just someone who has self taught and read on this forum.
To rank for what the op wants "durham", now that is easy
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Impossible, why? There's isn't room on page one for enough websites to be listed for it to satisfy the entire UK's needs. 45 Counties for England, so when those keywords are used up, you're in the depths of the web my friend. You will have to go beyond page one at some point for searches.
Okay so next option is to list under you're Town right? and when you're beaten for that, - only so many things people will type in for a search - it ain't a limitless thing you know, as people won't mess about searching using silly keywords and phrases - search is a time thing, and people are busy and got lives to lead and money to make.
People do and will give up search, at some point. Frustration sets in and they look elsewhere, they usually turn to alternative engines, but I don't know how many alternatives exist for Electricians online, but its probably very few.
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ED do you live in some sort of prallell universe or something? People search for say 'electricians swansea, or electricians in Swansea, or Swansea electricians', and you somehow feel they will leave because there are only 10 companies on page 1
People do and will give up search? I think you will find that the stats tell a different story.
I have worked (and do work) with small companies doing things like double glazing, sparkying, tv aerials, etc, and they ALL say the same, that being that their internet traffic mostly from google is now accounting for 70-90% of their business.
So I am not sure why you feel that google is somehow failing to deliver and that people should find an alternative engine, because those that do are a tiny tiny % of online sales.
People do and will give up search? I think you will find that the stats tell a different story.
I have worked (and do work) with small companies doing things like double glazing, sparkying, tv aerials, etc, and they ALL say the same, that being that their internet traffic mostly from google is now accounting for 70-90% of their business.
So I am not sure why you feel that google is somehow failing to deliver and that people should find an alternative engine, because those that do are a tiny tiny % of online sales.
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But that tiny percentage of search equalls billions of revenue, or are you deliberately refusing to acknowledge that huge fact.
For instance I can grab endless stats to support the fact the niche search market has expanded massively, and that means money! So it doesn't matter that Google has 80% of search - it matters not one bit, bcos the Hotels, Travel, and Business services are already listed in the booking sites, travel sites and alternative engines and have done so for years and will continue to do so.
These niche engines send billions of visitors every year, and businesses are suddenly going to pull their websites? I don't think so.
http://www.hotels.com/
www.accommodationforstudents.com (this got amazing press attention)
www.kelkoo.co.uk
yeah, the above engines are so short of visitors and money aren't they...
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You sure? Lets take a look at Google results for london electrician:
http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=lo...6&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=fe457c006c546ed0
Result:
1. A large Electrical contractor with big overheads and will likely charge customers more...
2. Gumtree - is now offering the search and not Google. So taking searchers away from Google.
3. FreeIndex - a General search directory, again not exactly targeted to tradespeople, so less Electricians, and not great for users
4. Another big company...... many local people don't want that.
5. Big company again
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all seem to be large companies with 0800 numbers and high overheads, many don't want this and will do business based only on recommendations.
Sorry I don't see any mass information that can provide everything anyone needs. We are talking about 10 results on the first page, and someone reckons this will solve all their info needs for the term Electrician - well it clearly doesn't. No portals, only 1 directory which isn't even Electrical related, no electrical blogs or forums - only maybe 4 companies in London and that's it
4 london companies won't solve all your electrical needs I'm afraid, as at least 3 of them will be booked upto their eyeballs and wont be able to serve you. The remainder might charge too much....
My point is that 4 won't be enough, and you'll be forced to navigate more pages, which means the 1 page search solution has just failed to help thousands of searchers.
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