Ranking keywords without on page optimization

[Shahid Awan]

I have a question I have ranked a website on top of the Google with 14 keywords by optimizing it on page and then I did off page seo as well, I only created brand links ( direct links to the main page of website ) but Yes at few places I used the keywords as title, Now I wanted to rank this website with few more keywords without on page optimization but only with off page optimization , how can I do this ? for example I have ranked a keyword " Plastic Recycling Company Derby " now I wanted to rank Paper and Plastic Recycling and I have not used this title " Paper and Plastic Recycling "on my website , now how I can rank it ?

 

[UKSBD]

Now I wanted to rank this website with few more keywords without on page optimization but only with off page optimization

Why?

now I wanted to rank Paper and Plastic Recycling and I have not used this title " Paper and Plastic Recycling "on my website

Why if you have a page that you want to rank for Paper and Plastic Recycling would you not use that phrase on the page?

Creative writing and getting the right phrases, in the right places, on the right pages is key

 

[Shahid Awan]

Yes I know that but the website is complete and I have used keywords on all the pages so if I want to rank new keywords it means I need to create more pages so I can use the keyword I want to rank ?? I know that still I am asking to confirm ?

 

[fisicx]

You can do it but it is very difficult and expensive.

The website isn't complete. No website is ever complete as you will always be adjusting to improve ranking and conversions.

If you want to rank well and keep that ranking you need to change the site and add new pages and update the internal linking.

 

[Shahid Awan]

Okay it can be done but it is an expensive way , so it means it is important for me to create new pages and then rank them, Okay Thank you Fisicx

 

[Tin]

I have ranked a keyword " Plastic Recycling Company Derby " now I wanted to rank Paper and Plastic Recycling and I have not used this title " Paper and Plastic Recycling "on my website , now how I can rank it ?

Clarity required. Is the new keyword you want to rank for "Paper and Plastic Recycling" or "Paper and Plastic Recycling Derby"?

 

[Shahid Awan]

Its " Paper and Plastic Recycling "

 

[OldWelshGuy]

Not local then and a step up in competition

 

[Shahid Awan]

I didn't get you OldWelshGuy can you pls explain ?

 

[fisicx]

He means you have gone from local (easy to rank) to national (hard to rank) keywords.

Either way, if you want to rank for anything you really need to have the keywords on the page. Not doing do just makes your life so much more difficult.

The site you have ranked for "Plastic Recycling Company Derby" doesn't have a lot of competition. Anyone using an exact match page title could probably rank #1 without a lot of effort.

 

[OldWelshGuy]

yep, if you think you can rank nationally for a competitive phrase without optimising for it then you are in for a rude awakening

 

[Shahid Awan]

Fisicx I was only giving an example I want to rank the keyword " paper and plastic recycling " not " plastic recycling company derby " anyway I got it now that I have to optimize my page to rank any keyword otherwise its too hard to rank , thanks everyone for advice and suggestions !!

 

[StevePoster]

Without On Page implemented on the site your Off Page will be useless due to crap content url that will be submitted or build in other websites.

 

[Shahid Awan]

Thanks for the Guidance StevePoster , I got it that on page optimization is necessary without it we cannot rank to any keyword we wish for !

 

[altonroot]

Its like, read a whole book to find summery as there is no title and nice and short summery for Google. So it's not hard to make some changes in title, header tags and few here and there. It will make a lot easier. One more thing, at the moment you have attached your website with Derby so I think with same title it is very very difficult to rank in other region.

 

[Shahid Awan]

Yes I got to know that if I need to rank in other regions then I need to create more pages on the website thank you for your tip !!

 

[Shahid Awan]

Thank you Sophia for suggestions !!