Question about DNS and nameservers

[helmuc]

Good afternoon,

Could you please assist me with correctly setting up dns and nameservers?

I have a dedicated server at RapidSwitch and the domain is at 123-reg, and it just seems I'm doing something wrong there...

When I was setting up WHM:

nameservers I chose: ns1.outlived.co.uk and ns2.outlived.co.uk
hostname: server1.outlived.co.uk​

Server technical details:

IP Address: 212.38.178.36
Subnet/Prefix: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 212.38.178.1
1st DNS Server: 87.117.198.200
2nd DNS Server: 87.117.237.100
3rd DNS Server: 87.117.196.200​

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1st time I changed only the nameservers at 123-reg to ns1.outlived.co.uk and ns2.outlived.co.uk and did add the new IP address 212.38.178.36 for both of them.

the website wasn't loading anywhere in the world within 12 hours.

Tests were performed with https://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/outlived.co.uk

But it did load just fine when I added these lines to my windows hosts file:
212.38.178.36 outlived.co.uk
212.38.178.36 www.outlived.co.uk

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2nd time I did reset nameservers to 123-reg default (screenshot):

and used advanced dns editor to and did this:

right after the website started appearing on random name servers around the world...

still it has been almost 24 hours and can't see it on my iphone... (my wife's phone works just fine)...

A question: Has everything has been done correctly?

humm... I have heard some thoughts that maybe I have to set up some subdomains like ns1 and ns2, but the person wasn't really sure about that.

Thank you in advance for your advice and expertise,
Helmuts

p.s. in addition had to delete the whole classifieds as they didn't migrate over properly (Murphy's law)

 

[faradaykeynes]

your DNS record is showing
Name Servers
ns1.dsredirection.com 204.13.160.143
ns2.dsredirection.com 204.13.161.145

 

[fisicx]

You are over complicating things.

Using WHM make sure you have created the account with the correct domain name.

Now go to 123reg and change the DNS to point to the new nameservers.

That's it. Stop there and don't do anything else. Don't mess with IP addresses, A records or anything else.

Once123reg have updated their DNS all calls for your website will be directed to the dedicated server. The dedicated server will go find your account and display the website.

 

[helmuc]

Now go to 123reg and change the DNS to point to the new nameservers.

That's it. Stop there and don't do anything else. Don't mess with IP addresses, A records or anything else.

What are you suggesting exactly?

Shall I leave nameservers as 123-reg default?
Shall I reset all the dns settings?

please more details.. I really appreciate your help

Helmuts

p.s. I would most definitely be happy to reset dns settings and use just ns1,out... and ns2.out...

 

[faradaykeynes]

login to 123reg, reset dns server save it and then enter your dedicated server details, just DNS address and save it, it should populate in no time

 

[fisicx]

^^^What he said.

Go to the cpanel for your new website on your dedicated server and grab the nameserver details. Don't try to set up your own, use the ones WHM has set up for you.

Login to 123reg and change the nameservers and wait. Usually about 24 hours

 

[helmuc]

Go to the cpanel for your new website on your dedicated server and grab the nameserver details. Don't try to set up your own, use the ones WHM has set up for you.

Login to 123reg and change the nameservers and wait. Usually about 24 hours

does it mean that I was wrong stating my own nameservers instead of using the system default ones while setting up whm?

thank you very much for your comments,
Helmuts

.. God, I wish I had a friend who's into hosting business

 

[fisicx]

Yes.

Keep it simple and let the technology do it for you. All the name server does it point the internat to the right place, it's like the largest address book ever.

WHM has already pointed your dedicated servber to your website so all that remains for you to do is tell the rest of the world - and you do that in your 123reg control panel.

Once the site is up and running you can create a test domain and play at setting up your own nameservers. I'm sure there are good reasons for doing this but I'd rather let WHM do all the geeky stuff for me.

 

[HostXNow]

If you're only hosting one website on the server then you can just use the default 123-reg nameservers, but if you plan on hosting several websites on the same server it'd be easier to use custom nameservers (at least in the log run anyway) as it's easier to move sites from server to server and have much less downtime, etc. Definitely worth learning how to do it when you get chance.

The site is loading fine at the moment, so I guess you sorted it out, although dns setup isn't the best. You can check at http://www.intodns.com/outlived.co.uk

 

[helmuc]

The site is loading fine at the moment, so I guess you sorted it out, although dns setup isn't the best.

Thank you for the link to intodns >> really interesting report.

How would you set up nameservers and dns (would you?) if your client had just ordered a dedicated server and he/she was planing to host 1 website only on it?

I am planning to get all the information possible regarding this setup and do changes (if needed) this weekend.

Thank you in advance,
Helmuts

 

[fisicx]

Exactly as I said above.

Create an account on the dedicated server then just change the DNS on 123 to point to the new server using the nameservers provided by WHM

 

[helmuc]

thank you @fisicx

 

[10032012]

I have to admit, I got a little lazy. The 48 hours DNS propagation time, especially with mainstream domain registrars... (123-reg is amongst the worst... ) is a real issue, so I am guilty of adding IPs to DNS settings rather than changing the name servers.

If the nameserver is a third party (i.e. the domain registrar) or your nameserver but on a different server; you do not have the worries of switching nameservers - which can be a PITA! (in theory its straight forward)

Changing your host file on your computer will speed up the site as you are bypassing the DNS lookup... (and assuming the server is on and configured correct the site will load!) the problem with this is, no one else on the internet has it in their host file...

The downside about using a registrar DNS is they normally host their nameservers in different countries (quite understandable) from each other and some website rating systems rank it as dodgy. 123-reg is UK and Germany I believe. This doesn't matter much as hardly anyone will look at the website ranking systems. But it can make some people paranoid.

 

[ryedale]

I use Cloudflare for all clients that use us for DNS Management (95% of them )

Their DNS Management panel is the best I've used and changes propagate almost instantly.