Previous Thread deleted ?? Regarding investor

Jwest2015

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Hi Everyone,

Earlier I posted a thread regarding looking for start-up funding/ investor.

The thread seems to have been deleted, does anyone know why and who by and possibly why?

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Mr Jamie West
 

Jeff FV

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Dear Jamie

Can I suggest that you check your PMs. Look for the little envelope icon towards the top left of the page.

If you click on that you should see that you will have recieved some messages which you may find instructive and illuminating.

Best wishes

Jeff
 
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Twinkle Toes

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Dear Jamie

Can I suggest that you check your PMs. Look for the little envelope icon towards the top left of the page.

If you click on that you should see that you will have recieved some messages which you may find instructive and illuminating.

Best wishes

Jeff

Trouble is Jeff it was a thread that was progressing nicely, now without everyone repeating what was said that progress/advice has been lost for good. Couldn't the one post reply thread have been deleted instead, or the two threads merged?
 
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Chris Ashdown

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    What I was about to say and agree with I forgot who posted was that its a good idea and you should consider crowdfunding

    Think you need to start very small to get funding, but not sure you have fully considered the cost of security and long opening hours

    Also big yellow already have 83 sites so would soon compete if you prove there is a market and whilst seccond hand containers are very cheap they would need lots of work to make them usable

    Good luck
    Think it was old welsh guy
     
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    Jeff FV

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    I have done a bit of digging.

    The removed post was removed by a mod not because it was a duplicate but it broke forum rules. I am not at liberty to to discuss in detail, but the OP will have received a PM to explain why his thread was removed. He also had a similar post removed in May and was again sent notification explaining why. Hence my suggestion that he checked his PMs.

    Had he acted upon the advice given in the May PM he could have avoided his thread being removed; however, having reviewed the thread (that has been deleted) there is a rule break in the initial post and again later in the thread he again breaks the same rule.

    But ...

    It does seem an interesting and useful thread and the thread has veered away from the rule break.

    This is what I will do: I will open it up in the mods area for discussion. I make no promises other than the mods, collectively, will look at the thread and review it to see if it can be re-instated with, perhaps, one or two tweaks to remove the rule breaks, but still keep the continuity of the thread.
     
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    Jwest2015

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    Hi again guys and girls,

    Thank you for all if your responses they are extremely helpful and to be honest I'm overwhelmed by how helpful and genuinely nice people are on here. I really appreciate all if your kind comments regarding the business aswell as brilliant advice.

    Admin I am very sorry that I posted a thread against the rules, it was entirely innocent ad I will be honest I did not read the forum rules before posting. My mistake.
    If I cannot post for investment etc then I presume the start up clinic is simply for advice/guidance unless I am a Paying member?

    Lastly How much is membership to the website?

    Have a nice evening everyone.
    Thank you!
     
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    Twinkle Toes

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    Just for additional clarity (it wasn't me that deleted the original thread), free members are not allowed to post for investment or joint ventures as it is a paid members facility within the paid area.

    The thread wasn't looking for direct investment from the forum (ok one post may have asked if a member was interested, but that was more of an aside).

    A mod' being a bit "jobsworth" maybe? Hope you can reinstate the original thread for the benefit of all.

    Appreciate it wasn't you OWG.
     
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    Admin I am very sorry that I posted a thread against the rules, it was entirely innocent ad I will be honest I did not read the forum rules before posting.

    I very much doubt whether anyone reads the rules before joining and having been a member here for many years I was also unaware that one couldn't ask for investment or a joint venture unless they were full members
     
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    Jwest2015

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    At least I'm not the only culprit Ian hehe.

    I would appreciate very much if the post could be put back up please admin? Maybe gather at the round table and decide my fate? It was a very good thread with lots of excellent advice etc.

    I am a new member simply seeking help, advice, guidance and friendly discussion from fellow, like-minded brothers and sisters.

    Do not fear admin, I shall be paying the membership fees to start the big boys conversations.

    Once again thank you everyone for your replies, I feel like I'm part of the family already!

    Oh, Did I mention I'm seeking investment? (Joke admin.... Calm down, calm down - scouse accent)
     
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    ethical PR

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    Mods the forum rules aren't terribly easy to find.

    Why not look at a way that people would need to read them before signing up as a member of the forum. So a pop up with terms which they would need to read and agree.

    In this way people are less likely to 'break the rules'.
     
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    It was a pity that one of the few occasions when someone actually posts a viable, realistic business plan (instead of the usual round of SpongeBob requests and prime examples of the deadly Dunning-Kruger syndrome) it was deleted for some obscure reason I, for one, am unaware of.

    I assume the word 'container' was too sexually explicit for someone.

    To save you having to look it up, here's a graph outlining the Dunning-Kruger effect -

    Dunning-Kruger-Effect-300x238.jpg
     
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    estwig

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    Dear Jamie

    Can I suggest that you check your PMs. Look for the little envelope icon towards the top left of the page.

    If you click on that you should see that you will have recieved some messages which you may find instructive and illuminating.

    Best wishes

    Jeff

    Rather patronising.

    Mods on here have been happily deleting my posts and threads for years without any explanation. I know I'm not the only one who has this happen to them.

    This contributes to why this forum is so poor, what's the point in posting anything if you don't know whether it will be stay live!

    I can feel a Godwin coming on!!
     
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    Twinkle Toes

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    It was a pity that one of the few occasions when someone actually posts a viable, realistic business plan (instead of the usual round of SpongeBob requests and prime examples of the deadly Dunning-Kruger syndrome) it was deleted for some obscure reason I, for one, am unaware of.

    I assume the word 'container' was too sexually explicit for someone.

    To save you having to look it up, here's a graph outlining the Dunning-Kruger effect -

    Dunning-Kruger-Effect-300x238.jpg

    Couldn't agree more. A poster with a plan he could discuss, happy to give all the details with sensible replies that actually moved the thread along. Made a refreshing change from phantom products, inaccurate figures and accusations of being a troll if you question anything they say.

    As Estwig said, what's the point of posting?
     
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    Made a refreshing change from phantom products, inaccurate figures and accusations of being a troll if you question anything they say.

    I for one am torn between trying to be positive about new start-ups and despair over numpties who insist that they can start a fast food outlet with £3k and are blissfully unaware of such minor irritations as cash-flow, book keeping, business rates and taxes and how to fill in a VAT form.

    Re Godwin. I stand enlightened! I had forgotten THAT Godwin!
     
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    ethical PR

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    Good point, the 'Rules & Help' link doesn't take you to the rules.

    Where are they?

    Under the 'rules' it links to https://support.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/hc/en-us/categories/200538622-How-to-avoid-common-mistakes

    What it doesn't do is tell you what you can and can't do as a free member and what benefits you get as a paid up member. Or suprisingly talk about the forum 'rules'....very strange.

    And under upgrades it doesn't mention as a free member that you can't ask for investment or say or a website review.

    If SIFT want people to more easily understand the 'rules' of the forum and what you can and can't do under the different membership categories, they need to make it much easier to find the information.
     
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    fisicx

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    I for one am torn between trying to be positive about new start-ups and despair over numpties who insist that they can start a fast food outlet with £3k
    ..or a gym on shoestring.
     
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    Jeff FV

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    Rather patronising.

    Mods on here have been happily deleting my posts and threads for years without any explanation. I know I'm not the only one who has this happen to them.

    This contributes to why this forum is so poor, what's the point in posting anything if you don't know whether it will be stay live!

    I can feel a Godwin coming on!!

    Why patronising?

    In May the OP posted posted a similar thread to this one. It was deleted (by another mod. Not that it matters, but I hvae not deleted any of his posts. I am just trying to pick up the pieces.) He was sent a PM explaining clearly why the thread was deleted and what rule he was breaking, what he needed to do to prevent the same thing happening again.

    He either didn't read or didn't act upon this advice, but he was told why his post was deleted. I was trying to direct him to where he could find the answer to the his question.

    I was only trying to help and personally felt that the thread could be re-instated (with a couple of amendments) but you know what, not really sure what the point of trying to mod the forum is.
     
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    Jwest2015

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    It was a bit patronising to be fair, and to clarify I didn't read the email that was sent to me back in may.

    There is a lot of point in amending and re-posting. it had so many good positive words from really helpful friendly people :).
     
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    Jeff FV

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    It was a bit patronising to be fair, and to clarify I didn't read the email that was sent to me back in may.

    I am sorry if you found it patronising, for that I am sorry. I did not mean it to be, I was merely trying to show you where you could find your PMs (some people don't always spot the envelope icon) and that if you did the answer to your question would be there. Because I can not publicly publish PMs, I was not at liberty to directly quote the content of the PM.

    There is a lot of point in amending and re-posting. it had so many good positive words from really helpful friendly people :).

    Which was what I suggesting and trying to engineer. A little gratitude, or at least acknowledgement might have been nice, but not necessary. However, all I have had is grief, including you saying I was patronising. Therefore, I am now going to remove myself from the discussion - I was batting for your side - it is still possible that the mod team may re-introduce the thread, or they may not, but I shall not now be involved in those discussions as my judgement has become clouded.
     
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    Jwest2015

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    Thank you for your apology, I think maybe you took the last message of mine a little harsh whereas it was said with a smile in my face hence the smiley emoticon. I appreciate that you were fighting my corner thank you, please don't take any offence to the previous post. Ive been friendly the whole time.
     
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    Under the 'rules' it links to https://support.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/hc/en-us/categories/200538622-How-to-avoid-common-mistakes

    What it doesn't do is tell you what you can and can't do as a free member and what benefits you get as a paid up member. Or suprisingly talk about the forum 'rules'....very strange.

    And under upgrades it doesn't mention as a free member that you can't ask for investment or say or a website review.

    If SIFT want people to more easily understand the 'rules' of the forum and what you can and can't do under the different membership categories, they need to make it much easier to find the information.

    I agree, it looks like a load of information has disappeared from that page. @Dan Izzard will now be aware of that.

    I would copy and paste this information across to the page as a stop gap.
    http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/pages/upgradeinfo/

    But the sad fact is hardly anyone reads terms and conditions, which is why we as Mods will almost always issue a friendly zero point warning and link to the rules, and point out where the user went wrong, alternately we will (if a number of posts have had to be deleted) make a general post within the thread by way of explanation. e.g. a number of posts have been deleted as xxx is not allowed in this area.'

    With regard the claim it was not asking for investment, sorry but it was. The original post laid out the cash wanted, it laid out what shares were available for that amount, and it invited interested parties to make contact. so there is absolutely no question that it was a request for investment, it was ALSO a request for assistance, so it had a foot in both camps.

    The ironic part in all of this is that we as mods have spent time defending/explaining the actions of the mod team, which has stopped us discussing in the mods area, putting the thread back.

    THIS is the problem with threads like this, they are often counter productive, which is why we ask for people to use the PM system when enquiring about warnings etc.

    So the 'potentially editable thread' is now sat in the mods area awaiting a debate :)
     
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    The ironic part in all of this is that we as mods have spent time defending/explaining the actions of the mod team, which has stopped us discussing in the mods area, putting the thread back.

    THIS is the problem with threads like this, they are often counter productive, which is why we ask for people to use the PM system when enquiring about warnings etc.

    So the 'potentially editable thread' is now sat in the mods area awaiting a debate :)

    I'm glad to hear it is all the fault of the great unwashed members of UKBF and not the mods!!!
    :)

    It'd be good work if it wasn't for the punters!!!!

    :):)
     
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