Old Domain Names and Ranking

Discussion in 'SEO, PPC and Online Marketing' started by helmetb, Sep 4, 2020.

  1. helmetb

    helmetb UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Hi

    I have a domain name over 10 years old and have setup the website again for over 3 months do old domain names that have a new website still get treated like a new domain and sandboxed.
     
    Posted: Sep 4, 2020 By: helmetb Member since: Apr 25, 2014
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  2. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    There is no sandbox.

    Google will index the site and rank accordingly. You won’t get any benefit of an aged domain as the website itself is new.
     
    Posted: Sep 4, 2020 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  3. Ewan Kennedy

    Ewan Kennedy UKBF Contributor Full Member

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    I agree with all that.
     
    Posted: Sep 4, 2020 By: Ewan Kennedy Member since: Mar 10, 2010
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  4. Nityen Prakash

    Nityen Prakash UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    Google uses the indexing settings of the old site with your new site until your new site is checked.
     
    Posted: Sep 8, 2020 By: Nityen Prakash Member since: Dec 20, 2019
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  5. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    Eh? In a coherent format please. One we can all understand.
     
    Posted: Sep 8, 2020 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  6. Darren_Ssc

    Darren_Ssc UKBF Ace Free Member

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    His 10 year old url's will have the same ranking until they have been re-crawled. Or something like that?

    Read enough of these cryptic gibberish posts and you learn to to decipher them into plain old gibberish.
     
    Posted: Sep 8, 2020 By: Darren_Ssc Member since: Mar 1, 2019
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  7. Arif Chowdhury

    Arif Chowdhury UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    maybe you would get the benefit of the old domain however, that time has passed away a long time ago. Google has developed so much & now there is no cheating.
     
    Posted: Sep 16, 2020 By: Arif Chowdhury Member since: Sep 11, 2020
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  8. Aleksander_Gramm

    Aleksander_Gramm UKBF Regular Free Member

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    @fisicx is right.
    Domain age is not a ranking factor. So, there are no benefits for a new site that means new URLs, new content, new structure, new UX design of pages, etc.
    But domain has a "search history", signals that Google will use. These signals may have the positive and negative (I think neutral, if it doesn't spammy domain) impact on a new website ranking
     
    Posted: Sep 18, 2020 By: Aleksander_Gramm Member since: Dec 14, 2018
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  9. bluenun

    bluenun UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    I think he means page authority / domain authority / Trust Flow and all that other stuff etc . All of which - he is correct to a certain point. A distinguished and well known shop that is known for selling whiskey will still have a bit of clout as far as google is concerned for whatever it was known to sell last time it was indexed.
    If the same shop decides to sell chocolate - then google wont rank it for chocolate products - until's its been indexed etc.
    No different to the high st and customers decision making.
    Anyone remember the High St ?
     
    Posted: Sep 19, 2020 By: bluenun Member since: Dec 11, 2008
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  10. SEO Lady

    SEO Lady SEO Freelance Consultant. Domain migration expert. Full Member - Verified Business

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    Late to the party, why has no one mentioned a Google change of address from an old domain with backlinks and (for example) should you want to rebrand?

    I guess my own rebrand experience may help others here, this around 4 years ago. I bought seolady/couk a couple of years after my original domain but just let it sit there.
    I'd 301 redirected it to original brand, once I had the new branding logo and creatives I was ready for the switch. At the same time I was installing SSL/HTTPS so it was a 2 birds 1 stone scenario.

    To ensure you know 100% that you have retained rankings, first of all you need to benchmark your current search phrases in Google (I use a spreadsheet and search manually, I don't use tools to track my keywords) then verify both domains by upload an HTML file to your website from Google Search Console.

    In my case I swapped the domains over when they were both verified, as I'm not eCommerce all my URLs stayed the same. I then completed a Google change of address from my old domain to my new one and asked for a crawl (Now called 'URL Inspection) on both domains and also both sitemaps.

    I proceeded to create new blog posts on my new domain and continued my SEO work on my target search phrase "SEO Freelancer UK" and after 18 months I nudged up from Google page 2 to page 1.

    I've also got a case study from 2015 in an identical situation of a rebrand which was ecommerce, exactly the same routine except this time we ran into trouble. The client and I had benchmarked around 30 important 'money phrases' with 1 specific search phrase which bought in the most wonga.

    Whaddya know, the developer I worked with completed the migration EXCEPT one category URL had changed, if you guessed it was the number 1 primary money phrase then you get a prize.
    As a remedy I implemented a 301 redirect as standard and asked for a recrawl. If I remember correctly it took around 10-14 days to get back to Gpage1, pos 1 for the money phrase.

    At present, I have a niche dog trainer who bought her name as a domain around 12 years ago, she recently had a rebrand because she's released a niche dog training book and used a 9 month old domain and her rankings have dropped. I completed the process of verifying her old domain (checking the stats she has some lovely niche backlinks) then once again used the Google change of address tool.

    This was last month and I checked her stats last week and it's made a positive difference.

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    So, whilst domain age may not be a ranking factor, the trust factor assocated with an aged domain which has garnered backlinks does help in my experience.
     
    Posted: Oct 3, 2020 By: SEO Lady Member since: Aug 28, 2009
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  11. bluenun

    bluenun UKBF Enthusiast Full Member

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    You need to know where those links from aged domains are coming from. If they are coming spammy domains - they aint worth diddly squat both in terms of quality traffic and potential conversions.
     
    Posted: Oct 8, 2020 By: bluenun Member since: Dec 11, 2008
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