Nerissa Gliders

[MikeJ]

You could set up beauty parlours for the rich, stupid passengers!

 

[Splashy]

Surely, I'm not the only one bored by fag packet physics now? OP, your idea of cheap free travel is laudable but the physics is way, way off. Jump onto a physics forum and give a go there, you will soon find out why!

Investors are not as stupid as some look, they will check the figures and you will come out of it looking like someone trying to sell an elevator to the moon.

Mod, can we close it now?

 

[Splashy]

Surely, I'm not the only one bored by fag packet physics now? OP, your idea of cheap /free travel is laudable but the physics is way, way off. Jump onto a physics forum and give a go there, you will soon find out why!

Investors are not as stupid as some look, they will check the figures and you will come out of it looking like someone trying to sell an elevator to the moon.

Mod, can we close it now?

 

[vvaannmmaann]

You just had to mention elevators to the moon didn't you? Now there will be all sorts of trouble.

 

[Splashy]

I've had a good idea, why not one like Charlie and the Chocolate factory?
As it is glass and therefore really only sand (silica) it is the same as sand found in a hour glass which measures time and therefore is time itself.

Hey presto I have invented a time machine, anyone want to lend me 200K to build it?

 

[oldeagleeye]

This is a complete wind up.

Our chummy is looking for mugs to sell these things and he promises them millions. Before all that of course they would have to cough up unspecified sums of money to buy part rights to the drawings.

Come on now Rahman. How much do you want for a share in the glider project which I understand I would also have to give you 50% of every one I sold.

What about the Lift Energy Converter that take take the energy from the decending lift and drive it back to the top again with only the aide of a toy electric motor and a pp3 battery.

Now that really is a cracker. I could go for that one. Come on now then how much for a half share. I can make you rich. I could sell 500 in Angola by the weekend.

http://www.thrilling.me.uk/entrep1.html

NOW WILL THE REAL RAHMAN PLEASE STAND UP. THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO BE THE RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLD SOLVING OUR ENERGY PROBLEMS WITH HIS 'GLIDER'

IS HE ANOTHER ISSAC NEWTON - ANOTHER EINSTEIN. WE NO EXACTLY FOLKS

HE IS - WAIT FOR IT -NOT IT'S NOT EVEN DELBOY.

Just another white van man with a respray to cover up the cracks on the 20 year old transit.

BTW. Look carefully and your see it didn't quite make it up the hill before the pp3batteryran out.

http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/f.../8479/vanside.gif[/IMG][/URL] Uploaded with Uploaded with ImageShack.us

 

[Splashy]

This is a complete wind up.

thrilling.me.uk/entrep1.html

OMG
If you fancy a laugh have a look at this guys web site!!!!!! Someone fetch me a one piece quilted jacket with arms that tie at the back :|

The OP has some serious issues, how does he manage to convince anyone he is not deluded/mad.

Seriously, while we have all had a bit of a laugh at this guys expense I think it is time to put him (and us) out of our misery!

Mod - pull the plug old chap using some freely obtained green energy to make up for the pollution the OP is pushing around London town with his clapped out old van.

Reminds me of a sketch with Kevin Turvey, Pollution sometimes up, sometimes down but always arwoound, are you coming to my town or am I coming to yours?

 

[MikeJ]

That's from The Young Ones. It was Rick Mayal though.

 

[Swisaw]

OMG
If you fancy a laugh have a look at this guys web site!!!!!! Someone fetch me a one piece quilted jacket with arms that tie at the back :|

The OP has some serious issues, how does he manage to convince anyone he is not deluded/mad.

Seriously, while we have all had a bit of a laugh at this guys expense I think it is time to put him (and us) out of our misery!

Mod - pull the plug old chap using some freely obtained green energy to make up for the pollution the OP is pushing around London town with his clapped out old van.

Reminds me of a sketch with Kevin Turvey, Pollution sometimes up, sometimes down but always arwoound, are you coming to my town or am I coming to yours?

Some of you really hard-hearted. If you don't like the idea, that is fair enough. But it is not fair to ask Mod against it.

 

[Splashy]

That's from The Young Ones. It was Rick Mayal though.

You're right it was Rik Mayall but when he played the character Kevin Turvey, remember him saying Kevin Turvey ear and sticking his thumb in his ear?

 

[Swisaw]

This is a complete wind up.

Our chummy is looking for mugs to sell these things and he promises them millions. Before all that of course they would have to cough up unspecified sums of money to buy part rights to the drawings.

Come on now Rahman. How much do you want for a share in the glider project which I understand I would also have to give you 50% of every one I sold.

What about the Lift Energy Converter that take take the energy from the decending lift and drive it back to the top again with only the aide of a toy electric motor and a pp3 battery.

Now that really is a cracker. I could go for that one. Come on now then how much for a half share. I can make you rich. I could sell 500 in Angola by the weekend.

http://www.thrilling.me.uk/entrep1.html

NOW WILL THE REAL RAHMAN PLEASE STAND UP. THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO BE THE RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLD SOLVING OUR ENERGY PROBLEMS WITH HIS 'GLIDER'

IS HE ANOTHER ISSAC NEWTON - ANOTHER EINSTEIN. WE NO EXACTLY FOLKS

HE IS - WAIT FOR IT -NOT IT'S NOT EVEN DELBOY.

Just another white van man with a respray to cover up the cracks on the 20 year old transit.

BTW. Look carefully and your see it didn't quite make it up the hill before the pp3batteryran out.

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No, it is a blue van man.

Best regards from Rahman

 

[Swisaw]

OMG
If you fancy a laugh have a look at this guys web site!!!!!! Someone fetch me a one piece quilted jacket with arms that tie at the back :|

The OP has some serious issues, how does he manage to convince anyone he is not deluded/mad.

Seriously, while we have all had a bit of a laugh at this guys expense I think it is time to put him (and us) out of our misery!

Mod - pull the plug old chap using some freely obtained green energy to make up for the pollution the OP is pushing around London town with his clapped out old van.

Reminds me of a sketch with Kevin Turvey, Pollution sometimes up, sometimes down but always arwoound, are you coming to my town or am I coming to yours?

You welcome to lough at me as much as you like. But it is not fair to ask Mods against this post.

 

[Swisaw]

Surely, I'm not the only one bored by fag packet physics now? OP, your idea of cheap free travel is laudable but the physics is way, way off. Jump onto a physics forum and give a go there, you will soon find out why!

Investors are not as stupid as some look, they will check the figures and you will come out of it looking like someone trying to sell an elevator to the moon.

Mod, can we close it now?

I put it on physics forum. So far over 100 people read it but no one has commented.
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=470538

Obviously if the idea was wrong technically, some one would have mentioned it. At least the Mods would have commented on it.

 

[MikeJ]

They're still laughing. Trust me.

 

[MikeJ]

You're right it was Rik Mayall but when he played the character Kevin Turvey, remember him saying Kevin Turvey ear and sticking his thumb in his ear?

Feel free to comment on my business knowledge, but never, ever question my knowledge of The Young Ones.

Opening lines to the episode "Bomb". Unless he did the same thing as Kevin Turvey...

http://www.4q.dk/theyoungones-03-bomb.php

 

[Swisaw]

They're still laughing. Trust me.

They are welcome to do so.

Best regards from Rahman.

 

[oldeagleeye]

I put it on physics forum. So far over 100 people read it but no one has commented.
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=470538

Obviously if the idea was wrong technically, some one would have mentioned it. At least the Mods would have commented on it.

The physics forum obviously showed their utter contempt by NOT bothering to answer your childish claims and the Mods are not allowed to psssssse themselves laughing.

Suggest you stick to the day job mate.

Rob

 

[gmoto]

I think too much is being done at the moment to create "enivornmental solutions" which entirely ignores "good for the environment" in a holistic sense.

The 'Car scrappage scheme' is a particularly ugly example - instead of keeping existing working (they had to have MOT, etc) vehicles on the road, we'll throw them away, then build new cars which get slightly better fuel consumption.
Ignoring that there's massive environmental impact in building new cars and everything else involved in the process - while servicing older cars and keeping them on the road not only employs British people but cuts out a hell of a lot of pollution, etc.

Electric cars are another one really being pushed, when over-all people are ignoring the many issues with disposal of batteries, etc.

 

[Newcott]

gmoto - the scrappage scheme main objective was to boost sales across Europe - they kinda tagged the whole green element afterwards.

Agreed though there's a big difference in what gets carried out and whats actually good for the enviroment.

Renewable soruces need to be looked at from and objective point of view - not just what has the biggest grant system from what I've read wing farms are a huge old drain and don't actually re-coup anywhere near the ammount.

Solar doesn't work too well for Uk levels.

Wave tec could be a good one and also save the issue of errosion in some places at the same time.

 

[gmoto]

Yea - I wasn't sure the new vehicle automotive industry really needed that much of a boost over so many others. For instance, how about giving a boost to car servicing with government funding - get existing cars working more efficiently and safer.

As far as CO2 emissions go, wind farms also tend to be pretty bad due to the amount of concrete used (also pertinent to the OP) - it can take a hell of a long time for that to be 'recovered' when you consider the 'saved' CO2 from having more 'green' energy.

 

[valentine1970]

I think these gliders look like a good idea although they would cost a lot to set up.

 

[Swisaw]

Yea - I wasn't sure the new vehicle automotive industry really needed that much of a boost over so many others. For instance, how about giving a boost to car servicing with government funding - get existing cars working more efficiently and safer.

As far as CO2 emissions go, wind farms also tend to be pretty bad due to the amount of concrete used (also pertinent to the OP) - it can take a hell of a long time for that to be 'recovered' when you consider the 'saved' CO2 from having more 'green' energy.

Concrete absorbs co2 from air:
http://www.materia.nl/563.0.html?&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=202&tx_ttnews[backPid]=534&cHash=e921cf6825

 

[gmoto]

A quick google shows that Co2 from normal concrete comes to around 40% from fuels used for creation and 60% from calcination. Over a 100 year time period, concrete my re-absorb 57% of the Co2 that was released due to calcination. So after a 100 years you may have re-absorbed around a third of the Co2 initially released.

The concrete in your link is described as having a 'relatively short time weather resistance time', which doesn't sound very good!

 

[Swisaw]

A quick google shows that Co2 from normal concrete comes to around 40% from fuels used for creation and 60% from calcination. Over a 100 year time period, concrete my re-absorb 57% of the Co2 that was released due to calcination. So after a 100 years you may have re-absorbed around a third of the Co2 initially released.

The concrete in your link is described as having a 'relatively short time weather resistance time', which doesn't sound very good!

In that case you don't have a choice, you have to go for Nerissa Gliders and my frictionless brake power recovery and reuse invention, as well as other green energy forms and tree plantation to reduce CO2.


My frictionless brake and shock absorber power recovery and reuse invention on this link: http://thrilling.me.uk/super.html could reduce fuel consumption for a vehicle driven in the city by as much as half. In addition to that it eliminates the need for brake pads and shoes, which are major sources of air pollution.


With Nerissa Gliders, you could reduce the need for energy by as much as two third and use green energy entirely. Lets go back to London and Glasgow to build a route for Nerissa Gliders on the same level between both points. Glasgow is 59.00 metres above sea level at Bishopton and London 24.00 metres above sea level. So our Nerissa Gliders Station in London has to be 59.00 - 24.00 = 35.00 metres high to be at the same level as in Glasgow. So we have to drive our vehicles to a 35.00 metre high to reach Nerissa Gliders Station in London. This obviously creates more co2 but we have eliminated co2 creation along a route of almost 600,000.00metres long between both points and in Glasgow the station is on the ground level, it doesn't cause any extra co2.


Nerissa Gliders in this case travels on the same level between both points. So it needs a minimum use of energy. Bear in mind unlike other means of transportations like trains and aeroplanes, Nerissa Gliders doesn't carry the engine, the fuel, wheels, gear boxes and other associated parts. Just the elimination of these loads should reduce energy needs by at least one third. So a few windmills along the route should provide green energy more than enough to operate Nerissa Gliders. Let the windmills to pump up water to high points and then use the potential energy of water to drive Nerissa Gliders.


Grow millions of trees along the route, where ever possible to counter co2 produced by pillars or supports made from concrete. Alternatively, why don't build supports from wood, a good reason to encourage forestation to grow trees.

 

[gmoto]

So, let me get this one point straight -
You expect the basics of a trip from Glasgow to London to be 'powered' entirely by a 35 meter elevation difference?

(I know you did mention water etc, but you're suggesting that's just a bit of an extra it seems.)

 

[MikeJ]

Yes. At 500mph, and he'll put energy back into the national grid. It'll also make tea, sweep the floor and iron your clothes.

 

[oldeagleeye]

You have got to hand it to the guy. He really could sell snake oil.

I mean yesterday a supersonic glider powered by a garden hose. Impressive but nothing compared to London's problem caused by climate change. Built on the flood plains of the South East most scientists agree that a 1 inch rise in sea levels will see the whole of the South East under water.

Rahams solution. Now he has raised London 75 ft above sea level.

Amazing what you can do with a £2 Lego Set isn't it.

 

[popunder]

I think his other invention has more scope:

"Advertising, gem, health and amusement equipment manufacturers are interested to make SWISAW ™, which even can be made as soft rocking bed for babies or a rocking bed for adults, especially courting couples. No girl will ever refuses you her heart on a bed of SWISAW ™. When you take her home, invite her to try the thrill of Swisaw ™. After a few minutes of her being swisawed gently, she enters the world of romance and invites you to take her heart. On the other hand, you can use your Swisaw ™ to swisaw your body to the bones when you are bored or after a hard days of work to get rid of all the pains and aches in your body."

Pure genius, and perfect for Valentine's Day. Where can I get one?

 

[Swisaw]

I think his other invention has more scope:

"Advertising, gem, health and amusement equipment manufacturers are interested to make SWISAW ™, which even can be made as soft rocking bed for babies or a rocking bed for adults, especially courting couples. No girl will ever refuses you her heart on a bed of SWISAW ™. When you take her home, invite her to try the thrill of Swisaw ™. After a few minutes of her being swisawed gently, she enters the world of romance and invites you to take her heart. On the other hand, you can use your Swisaw ™ to swisaw your body to the bones when you are bored or after a hard days of work to get rid of all the pains and aches in your body."

Pure genius, and perfect for Valentine's Day. Where can I get one?

Swisaw still patent pending. Any interested party welcomes to take over it over or becomes my partner. Swisaw can be made for all different sorts of markets from full children markets to the full adult and business markets to niche markets of hollywood type customers as well as gift markets like Valentine's Day presents for the upper class.

http://thrilling.me.uk

 

[KernowQueen]

is there a photo/video of a working Swisaw available? your website doesn't give much info & i really can't get my head around what this contraption actually is - side to side and up & down at the same time?? i feel sea-sick...

 

[Swisaw]

So, let me get this one point straight -
You expect the basics of a trip from Glasgow to London to be 'powered' entirely by a 35 meter elevation difference?

(I know you did mention water etc, but you're suggesting that's just a bit of an extra it seems.)

35.00 metre is a difference of heights over sea level between London and Glasgow. In this case, Glasgow is higher than London by 35.00metres over sea level. We can not have a practicable slope for Nerissa Gliders on long routes like between Glasgow and London. But in this case, we can at least benefit from an equal level route between both points. To get an equal level route between both points, Nerissa gliders Station in London has to be 35.00 metres high. But the station in Glasgow is going to be on the ground level.


Obviously this means we have to use energy to drive the glider but because the glider moves on an equal level route the energy needed is going to be a fraction of the energy used for trains or aeroplanes between both points. The glider saves further more energy because it doesn't carry the engine, the wheels, the gear box and other associated parts, something which all other means of transportation have to carry at the cost of more fuel consumption and more wears and tears.


The wear and tear on Nerissa Gliders almost becomes negligible. Only rollers bear wears and tears but they need service only after long periods of time like years. Because they are not always being used. When they are used, they get used for a few seconds only. On the long routes, the glider can has some sort of aerodynamic means to give it a bit of air lift to reduce the thrust on rollers. This should prolong service time period for rollers for years.

Nerissa Gliders still patent pending. Any entity welcomes to take it over or become my partner.

 

[Swisaw]

is there a photo/video of a working Swisaw available? your website doesn't give much info & i really can't get my head around what this contraption actually is - side to side and up & down at the same time?? i feel sea-sick...

I don't mind to send you technical details. Please see my confidetnial none disclosure form.

 

[Swisaw]

Lets pop this back into some perspective

Energy recovery systems, ought to be big business. increasing the efficency of something, reducing wear, or longevity ought to be appluded. Even if the physics is wrong, the base idea (energy recoivery) is something that ought to be pursued, and developed (properly)

The physics is not wrong. Nerissa Gliders is a wonder machine. It is up to you how to exploit it. You can let it to glide down over a slope under gravity or drive it against a slope or over a level route. Not only you can use it as a means of transportation, you can use it as the means of entertainment. Nerissa Gliders can be made as roller coasters at places like Blackpool. It can be made to entertain children as well as adults like small trains in amusement parks.


Potential business exploitation of Nerissa Gliders is very high. It is a multi billion pound industry at home and abroad. This is a rare opportunity for UK business community to get an edge against competition abroad on the field of transportation and entertainment with the exploitation of Nerissa Gliders. Because of its low cost, the world would prefer Nerissa Gliders over other means of transportation like local airlines, magnetic trains and new railways.


Nerissa Gliders still patent pending. Any entity welcomes to take it over or become my partner.

 

[gmoto]

Propulsion -
Have a propulsion system that spans 300km is going to be incredibly costly and not very efficent. If there's a problem propulsion area, it'll be a lot of effort to get to the problem system and fix it.
A better way that won't add that much weight at all in proportion to the load carried, but will really simplify things and make it a hell of a lot cheaper will be to have a small electric motor on the 'glider'. You could add a means to get power to it with a continuous conductor along the track. Where you get the power from is up to you.

Rollers -
Actually, you'll find rollers left out in the country side will need fairly regular maintenance to keep them in good condition I expect. Even if they didn't, it'd be a hell of a lot cheaper to have just one set on the glider. I think as a feasible idea, you'd have to go for this cost saving. Maintenance is also a hell of a lot easier, as you don't have to travel the whole distance of the country to do it - you only have one depot. The weight increase doesn't have to be that much as it's proportional to the load carried and generally fairly small.

Glider 'path' -
You want it to be straight and level. Something train lines have always desired. They'll cut through hills and bridge over gaps. But unfortunately in the UK there are limits the public will allow things to be disrupted, even more so when people's property is in the way of your project. And of course the cost of a bridge or a 'cutting' can be quiet immense just for one.
The only realistic way I could see you achieving this is if you tried to LOWER the level and do it all underground. Otherwise you WILL have to wind over things, go down through valleys and avoid large urban areas.

So, to conclude. For your idea to be successful in this country, you have basically invented the London Underground. Congratulations!

 

[MikeJ]

I still can't work out what these gliders are.

They started out as a gravity driven system. Then there were windmills involved. Then a hydraulic energy recovery system. Now they're a roller coaster.

Can you explain what it is you've got a patent pending on?

 

[roydmoorian]

Quick question to Swisaw " Why does a flywheel slow down ? " ( As indicated on one of you own web pages)

If you can understand that then you will realise why the glider concept will not work ! :redface:

 

[Cornish Steve]

The physics is not wrong. Nerissa Gliders is a wonder machine.

I wish I'd spotted this thread sooner!

Real science is experimental. If you have an idea, build an experiment to test and verify it. In your case, this means building a scale model. What would a scale model of the glider's proposed route from Glasgow to London look like? String a piece of wire the length of a football field and ensure that one end is exactly one inch higher than the other. If you can...

- Ensure the wire is exactly straight and does not sag
- Ensure the glider's progress is not impeded by wind, rain, or friction
- Ensure the journey takes less than 5 seconds (which is what your equations predict)
- Stop the glider without it smashing at high speed into the arrival terminal

...then, I'll find funding for your idea.

If, perchance, it doesn't work, then go view the Lynmouth railway (as someone else suggested), a mag-lev train in Japan, a hovercraft to the Isle of Wight, or simply take a flight from Glasgow to London. What do you do more efficiently than these other forms of transport?

Some other questions to ponder:

- What will happen to your glider's kinetic energy when you stop in London?
- What maximum speed are you predicting en route? (it's a rather interesting number!)
- How much energy will be needed to bring your glider back to Glasgow?
- How long will it take your glider to return to Glasgow?
- From where does the energy come that you believe you are creating?

 

[Swisaw]

I still can't work out what these gliders are.

They started out as a gravity driven system. Then there were windmills involved. Then a hydraulic energy recovery system. Now they're a roller coaster.

Can you explain what it is you've got a patent pending on?

It is some thing similar like a knife, made for use only in the kitchen. But it can be used outside kitchen for 1001 other jobs, not related to kitchen at all.

 

[Swisaw]

Quick question to Swisaw " Why does a flywheel slow down ? " ( As indicated on one of you own web pages)

If you can understand that then you will realise why the glider concept will not work ! :redface:

I know you don't take me serious. So I don't go into details. I just say this: my glider concept and flywheels have nothing in common. Ask some one else, whom you take seriously.

Best Regards

 

[MikeJ]

It is some thing similar like a knife, made for use only in the kitchen. But it can be used outside kitchen for 1001 other jobs, not related to kitchen at all.

Great.

WHAT IS IT?