Manager turning off CCTV

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I looked on the CCTV recording of my business and saw a one-second video of the manager we employed arriving at 8:15am on the day he didn’t need to work, walking up to the camera and then there was no recording after that. After that, recording started again 9:30 with my partner arriving at work.

The camera records when there is motion.

I am very concerned about this and I am planning to speak to him tomorrow. He has been employed by us for 4 years. How should approach this conversation? Many thanks.
 

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    I looked on the CCTV recording of my business and saw a one-second video of the manager we employed arriving at 8:15am on the day he didn’t need to work, walking up to the camera and then there was no recording after that. After that, recording started again 9:30 with my partner arriving at work.

    The camera records when there is motion.

    I am very concerned about this and I am planning to speak to him tomorrow. He has been employed by us for 4 years. How should approach this conversation? Many thanks.
    Openly. Speak to him in private, explain what you saw on the CCTV and ask him what was going on.
     
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    Let’s be honest—what exactly has he done wrong here?


    From my experience handling forensic cases involving dodgy CCTV and DVR systems, I can tell you this: unless you're spending serious money—hundreds of pounds per camera—those motion detection zones aren’t reliable. Especially on old systems.


    If he's a manager coming in on his day off to do some work, that’s not a red flag—that’s commitment. He actually sounds like a solid manager.


    Now, the bigger concern here isn’t what he did—it’s that you even need to review CCTV to begin with. If nothing was stolen or damaged, is this really an issue?


    Missing CCTV footage happens all the time in investigations. Most systems are running way beyond their expected lifespan. It’s common to find gaps, failed motion triggers, or corrupted recordings.


    Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised at all. Cheap cameras, worn-out DVRs—it’s a recipe for missing footage.


    If it were me? I’d simply ask him what he was doing there. Have a conversation. But I wouldn’t lose sleep over footage that likely never recorded in the first place.
     
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    My only real concern here is this—what’s the point of having CCTV if someone can just walk in and disconnect it? That’s the bigger issue.


    If your system is Wi-Fi based, that’s even worse—those can easily be jammed. You might want to review your setup.


    Honestly, if this manager has been solid for years with no red flags, I wouldn’t stress over missing footage. But I would make sure your CCTV can’t be unplugged easily, and that your DVR is locked away in a secure room.


    I’ve seen cases where staff cut cables or stabbed DVRs to cover their tracks. Bottom line—focus on making your system more secure and up-to-date. Most setups older than three years are already risky.
     
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    Don't know what business you are in but from my past experience (unfortunately) if you are dealing in some sort of product he's probably filling the boot of his car.

    The first thing I would do is see if there is a pattern to this ie how often is this happening, if you see a pattern then you know something is possibly a foot. If it is you need to stake the place out and catch them red handed.

    You need to know what your dealing with here before you confront them
     
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    If he's a manager coming in on his day off to do some work, that’s not a red flag—that’s commitment. He actually sounds like a solid manager.
    Actually it IS a red flag. If the manager is coming in to finish off some urgent work, that is commitment, or it might be a sign that they are out of their depth. If they are coming in, when no-one else is in, for any reason other than to complete some work it still needs looking into.
     
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    I looked on the CCTV recording of my business and saw a one-second video of the manager we employed arriving at 8:15am on the day he didn’t need to work, walking up to the camera and then there was no recording after that. After that, recording started again 9:30 with my partner arriving at work.

    The camera records when there is motion.
    Does it cover the WHOLE area?

    Is there an exit that is not covered?

    Was he still there when your partner arrived?
     
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    Let’s be honest—what exactly has he done wrong here? - Turned the camera off. Is there a valid reason you would turn a camera off? Im sure there are, but thats what needs to be investigated.


    From my experience handling forensic cases involving dodgy CCTV and DVR systems, I can tell you this: unless you're spending serious money—hundreds of pounds per camera—those motion detection zones aren’t reliable. Especially on old systems. - irrelevant.


    If he's a manager coming in on his day off to do some work, that’s not a red flag—that’s commitment. He actually sounds like a solid manager. - It can be. Coming in to do work is fine, we have all done it. Coming in when nobody is there and turning the camera off is a red flag a big one.


    Now, the bigger concern here isn’t what he did—it’s that you even need to review CCTV to begin with. If nothing was stolen or damaged, is this really an issue? - It might be that a recording notification popped through when you would expect the premises to be empty?


    Missing CCTV footage happens all the time in investigations. Most systems are running way beyond their expected lifespan. It’s common to find gaps, failed motion triggers, or corrupted recordings. - Thats not the same as actively going out of your way to turn it off.


    Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised at all. Cheap cameras, worn-out DVRs—it’s a recipe for missing footage. - As above.


    If it were me? I’d simply ask him what he was doing there. Have a conversation. But I wouldn’t lose sleep over footage that likely never recorded in the first place. I would do this too.
    Old systems not recording is not the same as someone coming into an empty building when nobody is around and turning off the camera so nobody can watch you doing something.

    He could be stealing, he could be spitting in the milk... Hes doing something that he does not want anyone to know about, what and why are the 2 questions that need answering.
     
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    I'd do that.

    A few months ago I had to to that when I suspected an employeed to be stealing diesel. Sadly he was, so sacked on the spot.
    Remember, even with Gross Misconduct, you have to follow the procedure
     
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