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Brian McIntosh

  • #1
    Just saw a report on Sky news online that said that Kate McCann will later today be charged with the accidental death of Madeline. Anyone else see this?
     
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  • #6
    They have to class her as a suspect but she has not been CHARGED. The portugeuse legal system is different to ours. They are only allowed to ask detailed questions if the person is named as a suspect, this does not mean she is guilty of any charges, please do not speculate on this until the authorities have done the job they are suposed to do.
     
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    Hayles

  • #10
    goldctrsteve said:
    The issue, as I heard on the news this morning, is that specks of Madeleine's blood were found in the hotel room. This was the result of work carried out by British doctors, not local doctors.
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    What would specks of her blood imply? That sometime during her holiday she cut herself.

    Over here they're saying blood was found in the hire car weeks after she went missing. Absolute joke... like the parents have been able to creep around without every step being watched?

    Personally I don't believe the parents are involved. Due to the police's incompetence I don't think we'll ever know what happened to her.

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    No-one's been charged.

    The police have some questions they want to ask her and, apparently, this means they have to give her a certain status in the investigation (as part of her rights).

    "Under Portuguese law, a person declared an arguido - "arguida" in the case of a woman - has legal protection that is not extended to a witness, including the right to remain silent during questioning and the right to legal representation."
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    It's not so much news as the possibility that there might be news in the days to come.

    (it's worth pointing out that the other "arguido" in the case (Murat) has been walking around freely for months without ever looking like facing any charges)

    Steve
     
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  • #13
    From the beginning of this, something has always striked me as a bit strange.

    The parents have got a lot to answer for leaving her like that in the first place.

    Somebody said to me, being doctors, how do you know they didn't give Madeleine something to make her sleep whilst she went out?

    There's something, just not right... and it's about time the parents where questioned properly.
     
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  • #15
    At the risk of an argument, IMHO I do not like the way that someone is 'tried' through the press. If they are charged I always wonder how they get a fair trial after that.

    Also we never know all the facts and do we always believe what is in the press.

    I remember the case of Mathew Kelly - that nearly destroyed him and he was innocent.

    Don’t mean to be controversial!
     
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    dagr

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    As Steve says above, the legal system in latin countries is different, and to go beyond reasonable superficial questioning and searching, the police have to put the "suspect" on a different status. It doesn't infer they are guilty, as the police can do this to witnesses or anyone really. In fact, it's not uncommon for a suspect/witness to request they themselves be put on that status, which the police may or may not do.

    Who knows what the ins and outs are of this case. She may or may not be subsequently charged, but until she is, then this is a bit of a non-event. Alas, headlines like "Mrs McCann's legal status has changed" doesn't sell as many newspapers.
     
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    Mark Bateman

  • #20
    Hold on - so they are suggesting that Madeline was moved 21 days after her disapearence in a hire car

    Has everyone gone mad - out there there are a number of cars following them everywhere - some on their wishes to promote publicity

    On 5 live her mother is already saying that the evidence has been planted - cant blame her because its her mother but does anyone really think hand on heart that they hurt that girl
     
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    Hayles

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    Mark Bateman said:
    Hold on - so they are suggesting that Madeline was moved 21 days after her disapearence in a hire car

    Has everyone gone mad - out there there are a number of cars following them everywhere - some on their wishes to promote publicity

    On 5 live her mother is already saying that the evidence has been planted - cant blame her because its her mother but does anyone really think hand on heart that they hurt that girl
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    Exactly.

    It is a worry that the police could get desperate enough to plant evidence. Personally I think there's more chance of this than her being guilty.

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  • #24
    Ray

    A forum is like a pub or any metting plave

    I have done my duty to help promote finding this girl especially when they live in my county and the village is just lovely

    The more its stays in the press the more chance we have of finding out what happened

    They always say someone always knows

    I know they always look clam but they have to be to keep everyone on the case

    There is no way this girl has been hurt by their parents - if they did - just ask the awkward questions anyone else would ask and you will find they couldnt have done it

    This is one and then thats it

    When they were in the resturant and went back and found her not there how on earth would they get her far enough or sealed away in what was a few minutes when the whole area was searched
     
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    Hayles

  • #26
    dagr said:
    Hayles, I have to admit I'm puzzled.

    Have you had an altercation with the Portuguese police or something?

    I'm only asking because you seem to have it in for them.
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    No, no altercation with them... my life's not that exciting :)

    I just think the way they handled the case, right from the initial call to now has been ridiculous. I understand they have different ways and they don't have the experience to deal with this type of case so they should have asked for help - immediately.

    I still remember the first call to GMTV a couple of hours after Madeline disappeared. The friend of the family was pleading for someone over here to help because the police weren't taking it seriously. If only they had then Madeline's disappearance might now be a distant memory as she could be back with her parents.

    What use were those stupid policeman who were sitting in their car at the border because it was raining? They were filmed... as were all the cars and vans that drove past them and out of the country.

    We often moan about the police over here, but I believe (though fortunate never to have personal knowledge), that they conduct similar disappearances and crimes in a much more professional way.

    Sorry for preaching.... :)
     
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  • #27
    I do not think they did

    but it wasn't a case of getting the girl away in a few minutes the McCanns themselves said the portugese police did not do a search until morning

    Very strange the 21 days later though

    It brings the press attention back on the girl so that cannot altogether be a bad thing
     
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    dagr

  • #28
    No problem Hayles, I was just curious. I haven't really followed the case that much and thought I was missing something obvious.

    I do agree that the British bobbies are among the best in the world, well, of those that I have seen so far.
     
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  • #30
    Excessive media coverage of this case encourages us to look at this situation like a soap opera. It becomes almost surreal, the McCanns saw media coverage as their only way of finding their baby and she was a baby. Now I think the media coverage is working against them, The more they are in the press, the more they are laying themselves wide open for criticism and conspiracy theories.

    I don't believe the parents are involved. Just looking at before and after pictures of Kate McCann is proof she is a person who is ravaged with grief and who wouldn't be? Lets not forget, Maddie has never been found. To lose your child in any circumstance must be tough but to not know what has happened to them, to me, that's living hell on earth.

    It's easy to sit and judge, cast aspersions, accuse etc.

    The Portugese police have messed up, they have a lot to account for and the fact they are questioning the parents 4 months after the event? What a joke. Don't the British police cover that ground, as insensitive as it may appear at the time, right from the off?

    Nic ;)
     
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  • #32
    IF Madeleine's blood has been found in the car hired by the McCanns 25 days after Madeleine's disappearance, surely the logical first thing to do is to trace whoever the car was hired to on the day Madeleine disappeared - and interview them!

    But no-one here or in the news articles I've read has suggested this course of action.

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  • #33
    I am curious as to why people keep talking of their 'beliefs' in this matter...It's not some intellectual debate!! What is the point of speculation?

    Fact, for 99.5% of people: tragedy that the girl has disappeared and that's it, until there is conclusive evidence of something.
     
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  • #36
    It is astonishing that it has taken the police this long to question the parents, surely this is the first place to start any investigation of this kind. I do feel for them and sincerely hope it is nothing to do with them, but is it not best to be sure.
    I always thought the police started any investigation of this kind with the people closest to the victim and worked out from there. Eliminate the obvious first.
     
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  • #38
    Portuguese police have declared that Gerry McCann is a formal suspect in the disappearance of his missing four-year-old daughter Madeleine. Police have also accused Madeleine's mother Kate of killing their daughter by accident...

    As Madeleine's parents are named as suspects, police ask Kate:
    •Why was her blood in your car?
    •Did you drug her that night?
    •Confess and get just two years
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