Looking for a single site wordpress host, HTTPS needed

Discussion in 'IT & Internet' started by Karimbo, Nov 11, 2019.

  1. Karimbo

    Karimbo UKBF Ace Free Member

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    Hi

    I upgraded my site to https (rather the web host activated https). I don't know how it works - technology seems to change fast. When I had HTTPS before I needed to pay $10 a year for a certificate and then pay £50 a year for a dedicated IP

    Anyway, the website is slow, it's a wordpress site, with woocommerce. It's low traffic so I don't know why it's so slow.

    You click on the link and it takes a tad bit too long to load and you think "is the website down". It's slow enough that if I was a customer I'd be included to just hit the back button and get back to google and hit the next link. I'm sure it's also a ranking factor (adversely), so I need to fix it.

    I dont want to spend too much money, currently paying £50 a year. It has 10-20 uniques a day, it's a business to business services websites, the woocommerce is needed to run a "request quote" CMS. Where clients add items to a list and send it over for costing and quotation. It was the only solution that would do it and required resource intensive woocommerce. Sure I'd rather use a lightweight plugin for the job. But woocommerce is required as it ticks all the boxes and isn't a major resource hog.
     
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    Posted: Nov 11, 2019 By: Karimbo Member since: Nov 5, 2011
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  2. jacobc

    jacobc UKBF Regular Full Member

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    Hi Karimbo,

    Sounds a bit odd, do you have a link to the site and I can take a look?

    Regards

    Jacob
     
    Posted: Nov 11, 2019 By: jacobc Member since: Jan 28, 2012
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  3. nahosting

    nahosting UKBF Regular Free Member

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    Hi,

    All https websites require an SSL certificate but more often than not they don't need a dedicated IP any more.

    Sounds like a form would do better than WooCommerce but as Jacob said it would be good to see the site.

    Cheers
    Chris
     
    Posted: Nov 11, 2019 By: nahosting Member since: Mar 19, 2013
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  4. Karimbo

    Karimbo UKBF Ace Free Member

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    website sent to you both.
     
    Posted: Nov 11, 2019 By: Karimbo Member since: Nov 5, 2011
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  5. WESH.UK

    WESH.UK UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Hi Karimbo

    As a first point of contact, have you contacted your host to ask and have a chat about this, as that would be the best option to start with.

    There are many many reasons why your website could be slow, and simply blaming them and looking for a new host can seem pretty unfair.

    SSL These days doesnt need a dedicated IP, and SSL's have been free for a long time now.
    We enabled SSL on every customers websites years ago, they didnt need to ask for it, we just did it.

    Every now and then we get a customer ask why their website is slow only to find their WordPress site is configured terribly or has things running that is not needed or have simply overlooked a few things that take seconds to put right.

    Speak to your host first. You pay them for the service and they should be more than happy to discuss it and take a look at things for you. Think of it as a business partnership..

    If that fails and they dont want to have a chat about it, dont have a phone number or wont help, then fair play, looking for a host that is happy to help is the way to go :)

    Woocommerce does however seem far too OTT for simply requesting a quote. A form would be so much more efficient and Woocommerce is already a resource hungry plugin.

    Would love to take a look at the website too...
     
    Posted: Nov 11, 2019 By: WESH.UK Member since: Aug 11, 2018
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  6. Karimbo

    Karimbo UKBF Ace Free Member

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    Thanks for the feedback. I have sent the URL to the two posters above. I did try to find a solution that was lighter. Unfortunately nothing did the job exactly how I needed it to do. It's an audivisual equipment rental website. So clients need to go through the catalogue and request items for rental.

    So an ecommerce style layout and the shopping basket style system is needed.
     
    Posted: Nov 11, 2019 By: Karimbo Member since: Nov 5, 2011
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  7. WebDesires

    WebDesires UKBF Regular Full Member

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    You definately need to purchase and install an SSL certificate ASAP.

    Secondly install some caching plugins into wordpress, Autoptimize is very good to compress down resources and combine them and W3 Total Cache is good at mitigating DB and PHP generating load times as it will cache pages down to static files.
     
    Posted: Nov 11, 2019 By: WebDesires Member since: Feb 23, 2016
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  8. WESH.UK

    WESH.UK UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    Fab. What have your current hosting provider said about the website?
     
    Posted: Nov 11, 2019 By: WESH.UK Member since: Aug 11, 2018
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  9. WESH.UK

    WESH.UK UKBF Contributor Free Member

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    He already has SSL now :) ZERO need to purchase an SSL certificate :)
     
    Posted: Nov 11, 2019 By: WESH.UK Member since: Aug 11, 2018
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  10. Karimbo

    Karimbo UKBF Ace Free Member

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    Sorry, I edited the original post. It seems to have a valid SSL, web host activated it for me. I will continue to explore caching. I am using litespeed cache. I used to use DB cache reloaded fix and hypercache and they messed the shopping cart feature and wouldn't delete items from cart or add items from cart after it was "cached in".
     
    Posted: Nov 11, 2019 By: Karimbo Member since: Nov 5, 2011
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  11. HostXNow

    HostXNow UKBF Regular Full Member

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    Yes. The site may need to be optimised, but hard to tell without seeing the website. Please check your PM.
     
    Posted: Nov 11, 2019 By: HostXNow Member since: Mar 7, 2011
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  12. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    If you need caching there is something wrong with the site. A well optimised wordpress install (even with woo-commerce) can be very fast even on a shared server.
     
    Posted: Nov 11, 2019 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  13. Karimbo

    Karimbo UKBF Ace Free Member

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    I realise the server is a bit rubbish. it gets 3s to 7s load times (varies from time to time), the 7s loading is painful and would get visitors to hit the back button.

    I'd like the page loads to be a bit more snappy. Similar to how the forum pages on the site load. When it's slow it's painful to browse through pages.

    I installed caching and some pagespeed testing sites have reported 500ms to 3s.
     
    Posted: Nov 12, 2019 By: Karimbo Member since: Nov 5, 2011
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  14. Karimbo

    Karimbo UKBF Ace Free Member

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    For the time being I shall consider the matter resolved (with w3 total cache). Thanks you everyone for the help. I will trial a new web host at some point.
     
    Posted: Nov 12, 2019 By: Karimbo Member since: Nov 5, 2011
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  15. fisicx

    fisicx It's Major Clanger! Staff Member

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    Or it could be a poorly configured site. Speed testers usually have a waterfall so you can what's holding up the page load. I've often discovered it's external resources that clog things up - Google fonts for example.
     
    Posted: Nov 12, 2019 By: fisicx Member since: Sep 12, 2006
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  16. techguy4557

    techguy4557 UKBF Newcomer Free Member

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    I refer Accuweb Hosting as you can surely host WordPress Woo-commerce store in their WordPress Hosting plan. They give free SSL and migration for your site. They are providing SSD storage with Raid10 architecture and free CDN service, so that will help in the speed-related issue. They are in the hosting industry since 2003. Also, you will get a solution for your all queries and problems with their excellent technical support.
     
    Posted: Dec 7, 2019 at 12:57 PM By: techguy4557 Member since: Nov 14, 2017
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  17. Alan

    Alan UKBF Legend Full Member - Verified Business

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    I think the problem is solved, so no need to add suggestions
     
    Posted: Dec 7, 2019 at 10:24 PM By: Alan Member since: Aug 16, 2011
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  18. Ian J

    Ian J Factoring Specialist Full Member - Verified Business

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    Hmmmm. Two posts and two mentions for Accuweb. Do I smell the faint whiff of spammer here
     
    Posted: Dec 8, 2019 at 9:56 AM By: Ian J Member since: Nov 6, 2004
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  19. HostXNow

    HostXNow UKBF Regular Full Member

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    The provider doesn't offer UK location and this forum is mainly for UK businesses. So can see why some would think that.
     
    Posted: Dec 9, 2019 at 8:12 AM By: HostXNow Member since: Mar 7, 2011
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